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The result was delete. ♠ PMC♠ (talk) 10:36, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
List of unusual injuries or survived experiences
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Subjective list with unclear and potentially indiscriminate inclusion criteria.
Firstly, it's not clearly defined what constitutes "unusual" in this context. For example, there's an entry here for a person who survived a leopard attack by fighting off the leopard, which falls rather short of being unique or unprecedented — and while the person in question does have a Wikipedia article, "survived a leopard attack" isn't the reason why he has a Wikipedia article: he has a Wikipedia article because of his work as a biologist and conservationist and taxidermist, while surviving a leopard attack is just one sentence of trivia within it rather than his core notability claim, and is not important enough in the context of his overall biography to warrant being immortalized in a list of "unusual" incidents.
There are also many people listed here who don't have Wikipedia articles at all, many of whom would never get a Wikipedia article on the basis of what's described here in and of itself, as well as several people who are included without any description whatsoever of what even happened, and many who are listed without sourcing.
And without a clear and objective definition of what constitutes "unusual", this could potentially attract an infinite number of unencylopedic entries for anybody who ever gets a hit or two of human-interest coverage in the context of surviving almost any potentially dangerous incident whatsoever — for example, bridges don't collapse every day, so technically the two survivors of the Baltimore bridge collapse just the other day survived an experience "unusual" enough to merit listing here too — which just renders it effectively open-ended and unmaintainable.
This just isn't the kind of thing that belongs in an encyclopedia.
Bearcat (
talk) 17:01, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists of people-related deletion discussions. Bearcat ( talk) 17:01, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
- Delete - indiscriminate information with ideosyncratic inclusion criteria. WP:NOTEVERYTHING JMWt ( talk) 18:24, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Events, History, and Medicine. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 19:35, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
- Delete with regret as I love this sort of random trivia but we’re building an encyclopedia not recreating Ripley’s Believe It Or Not! Mccapra ( talk) 21:12, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
- Delete This list could become a category at most. What bothers me most is that many of the people listed don't have their own article or are in the list because of another reason, which makes it a nice to read list with unlimited and undefined scope. Killarnee ( talk) 16:35, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:TNT. I'm going to go along, but for a novel reason: it's a huge mess. I'm not against such a list with proper reasons and rubrics for inclusion, but the entries (other than the first, Phineas Gage), appear to be quite random. The notes are extraordinarily long. Beyond ordinary amounts of editing would have to take place to fix the many problems in this article. Sorry. Bearian ( talk) 17:45, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom and per WP:INDISCRIMINATE. Would make a great listicle somewhere in the web though. -- Lenticel ( talk) 01:17, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
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The result was delete. ♠ PMC♠ (talk) 10:36, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
List of unusual injuries or survived experiences
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Subjective list with unclear and potentially indiscriminate inclusion criteria.
Firstly, it's not clearly defined what constitutes "unusual" in this context. For example, there's an entry here for a person who survived a leopard attack by fighting off the leopard, which falls rather short of being unique or unprecedented — and while the person in question does have a Wikipedia article, "survived a leopard attack" isn't the reason why he has a Wikipedia article: he has a Wikipedia article because of his work as a biologist and conservationist and taxidermist, while surviving a leopard attack is just one sentence of trivia within it rather than his core notability claim, and is not important enough in the context of his overall biography to warrant being immortalized in a list of "unusual" incidents.
There are also many people listed here who don't have Wikipedia articles at all, many of whom would never get a Wikipedia article on the basis of what's described here in and of itself, as well as several people who are included without any description whatsoever of what even happened, and many who are listed without sourcing.
And without a clear and objective definition of what constitutes "unusual", this could potentially attract an infinite number of unencylopedic entries for anybody who ever gets a hit or two of human-interest coverage in the context of surviving almost any potentially dangerous incident whatsoever — for example, bridges don't collapse every day, so technically the two survivors of the Baltimore bridge collapse just the other day survived an experience "unusual" enough to merit listing here too — which just renders it effectively open-ended and unmaintainable.
This just isn't the kind of thing that belongs in an encyclopedia.
Bearcat (
talk) 17:01, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists of people-related deletion discussions. Bearcat ( talk) 17:01, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
- Delete - indiscriminate information with ideosyncratic inclusion criteria. WP:NOTEVERYTHING JMWt ( talk) 18:24, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Events, History, and Medicine. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 19:35, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
- Delete with regret as I love this sort of random trivia but we’re building an encyclopedia not recreating Ripley’s Believe It Or Not! Mccapra ( talk) 21:12, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
- Delete This list could become a category at most. What bothers me most is that many of the people listed don't have their own article or are in the list because of another reason, which makes it a nice to read list with unlimited and undefined scope. Killarnee ( talk) 16:35, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:TNT. I'm going to go along, but for a novel reason: it's a huge mess. I'm not against such a list with proper reasons and rubrics for inclusion, but the entries (other than the first, Phineas Gage), appear to be quite random. The notes are extraordinarily long. Beyond ordinary amounts of editing would have to take place to fix the many problems in this article. Sorry. Bearian ( talk) 17:45, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom and per WP:INDISCRIMINATE. Would make a great listicle somewhere in the web though. -- Lenticel ( talk) 01:17, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
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