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The result was delete. BusterD ( talk) 14:47, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
List of songs about Cork
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Same reason as Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of songs about Oslo. The list fails WP:INDISCRIMINATE, WP:LISTN and WP:OR. There is little to nothing worthwhile in this list, be it content or context. Geschichte ( talk) 11:47, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Music, Lists, and Ireland. Shellwood ( talk) 15:06, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
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WeakKeep. Or, failing that, a selective merge/redirect to List of Irish ballads#Places, emigration and travel. As an WP:ATD. I understand the nomination in principle. And certainly, before my own WP:BEFORE and WP:VER checks and cleanup, there were more than a few entries which weren't discussed AT ALL/ANYWHERE. Not to mind being discussed as a group somewhere. As WP:NLIST would typically expect. However, with those random and unexplained (and seemingly quasi-promotional additions) removed, many/most of the list entries do appear to be covered - as a group - in reliable/verifiable sources. Including in Crowley's 2014 work Songs from the Beautiful City : the Cork Urban Ballads ( ISBN 9781910179406) and in Healy's 1978 work Comic Songs of Cork and Kerry ( ISBN 9780853424987). While additional clean-up is likely needed (including to better reflect the sources that do discuss the list members as a group), I'm inclined to lean towards a "keep". (Note: While I can't see the ( now deleted) "List of songs about Oslo" title that is referred to in the nom, if it's equivalent to what's now at no:Liste_over_Oslosanger, then I'm not sure it's an entirely fair comparison. An (entirely?) unsupported 1400-point list, and a (semi) supported 30-point list, wouldn't seem directly comparable... ) Guliolopez ( talk) 20:41, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 06:44, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
- Delete - is there a list of songs for every other county in Ireland? Why is Cork special? Actually, don't answer that! It's an indiscriminate list, no reason to keep.
Spleodrach (
talk) 17:06, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
- Comment. RE "
Why is Cork special?
". It's not. There are also titles on List of songs about Dublin, List of songs about Clare, List of songs about Tipperary, List of songs about Louth and List of songs about Wicklow. If anything, deleting the Cork list (which, per my note above and NLIST, is supported by reliable/external/independent sources which cover the members as a group), while retaining the others, would possibly be indiscriminate/inconsistent. ( WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS and WP:OTHERSTUFFDOESNTEXIST are two sides of the same WP:ATA coin...) Guliolopez ( talk) 12:11, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
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Relisting comment: Final relist.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, The Herald (Benison) ( talk) 06:11, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
- Delete Wikipedia is not a song directory. * Pppery * it has begun... 04:47, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
- Delete I would just say there is nothing so special about this topic that it needs to be kept despite deletions of similar articles. Abhishek0831996 ( talk) 13:12, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
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The result was delete. BusterD ( talk) 14:47, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
List of songs about Cork
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Same reason as Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of songs about Oslo. The list fails WP:INDISCRIMINATE, WP:LISTN and WP:OR. There is little to nothing worthwhile in this list, be it content or context. Geschichte ( talk) 11:47, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Music, Lists, and Ireland. Shellwood ( talk) 15:06, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 17:39, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
WeakKeep. Or, failing that, a selective merge/redirect to List of Irish ballads#Places, emigration and travel. As an WP:ATD. I understand the nomination in principle. And certainly, before my own WP:BEFORE and WP:VER checks and cleanup, there were more than a few entries which weren't discussed AT ALL/ANYWHERE. Not to mind being discussed as a group somewhere. As WP:NLIST would typically expect. However, with those random and unexplained (and seemingly quasi-promotional additions) removed, many/most of the list entries do appear to be covered - as a group - in reliable/verifiable sources. Including in Crowley's 2014 work Songs from the Beautiful City : the Cork Urban Ballads ( ISBN 9781910179406) and in Healy's 1978 work Comic Songs of Cork and Kerry ( ISBN 9780853424987). While additional clean-up is likely needed (including to better reflect the sources that do discuss the list members as a group), I'm inclined to lean towards a "keep". (Note: While I can't see the ( now deleted) "List of songs about Oslo" title that is referred to in the nom, if it's equivalent to what's now at no:Liste_over_Oslosanger, then I'm not sure it's an entirely fair comparison. An (entirely?) unsupported 1400-point list, and a (semi) supported 30-point list, wouldn't seem directly comparable... ) Guliolopez ( talk) 20:41, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 06:44, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
- Delete - is there a list of songs for every other county in Ireland? Why is Cork special? Actually, don't answer that! It's an indiscriminate list, no reason to keep.
Spleodrach (
talk) 17:06, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
- Comment. RE "
Why is Cork special?
". It's not. There are also titles on List of songs about Dublin, List of songs about Clare, List of songs about Tipperary, List of songs about Louth and List of songs about Wicklow. If anything, deleting the Cork list (which, per my note above and NLIST, is supported by reliable/external/independent sources which cover the members as a group), while retaining the others, would possibly be indiscriminate/inconsistent. ( WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS and WP:OTHERSTUFFDOESNTEXIST are two sides of the same WP:ATA coin...) Guliolopez ( talk) 12:11, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
- Comment. RE "
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Star Mississippi 15:43, 22 March 2024 (UTC)Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Final relist.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, The Herald (Benison) ( talk) 06:11, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
- Delete Wikipedia is not a song directory. * Pppery * it has begun... 04:47, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
- Delete I would just say there is nothing so special about this topic that it needs to be kept despite deletions of similar articles. Abhishek0831996 ( talk) 13:12, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
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