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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Liz Read! Talk! 06:25, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
List of Cornish artists, architects and craftspeople
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Fails WP:NLIST. Also, architects? Clarityfiend ( talk) 05:41, 18 June 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Lists of people and United Kingdom. Shellwood ( talk) 05:48, 18 June 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Artists-related deletion discussions. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 08:31, 18 June 2023 (UTC)
- Comment I think this list falls under "Lists of X of Y" and those guidelines are quite vague. This is a list of less than 50 names, mostly falling in the 19th and 20th century. The List of Cornish musicians and List of Cornish engineers and inventors are not robust either. I am unfamiliar with Cornwall, so can't judge the value of a list of Cornish people. WomenArtistUpdates ( talk) 01:05, 20 June 2023 (UTC)
- Also List of Cornish philanthropists and List of Cornish geologists and explorers are sparsely populated. WomenArtistUpdates ( talk) 01:17, 20 June 2023 (UTC)
- delete because categories exist and this is a glorified category.
Dronebogus (
talk) 18:06, 21 June 2023 (UTC)
- Also, architects are indeed artists, who are responsible for designing buildings. Builders and engineers actually construct them and deal with practical stuff. Dronebogus ( talk) 18:11, 21 June 2023 (UTC)
- That's your personal interpretation. Few people would consider architects to be artists (except for the Frank Lloyd Wrights of this world), so there are no lists with such an unusual agglomeration. Clarityfiend ( talk) 07:09, 25 June 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting. I know I'll get flak for this but this article has existed for 14 years, I'd like to see more policy-based reasons and support for deletion before hitting the Delete button.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 05:35, 25 June 2023 (UTC)
- Delete - Cornwall nowadays is just a region at the southwest corner of England. Briefly skim our constitutional status of Cornwall article for an overview why administratively it's been just another part of England for centuries and how the Cornish language faded from common usage in the 18th century. Attempts to gain autonomy for Cornwall like Scotland or Wales have fizzled due to lack of local support.
- We don't have lists like this for other regions or counties of England and there's no reason to believe a Cornish geologist, philanthropist or architect is going to be different from their other English counterparts. The list serves no purpose.
- In short, this list fails WP:NOT, specifically WP:CROSSCAT. In other words, Wikipedia is not "non-encyclopedic cross-categorizations". (Technically, this is a list, not a category but the notability discussion at WP:LISTN references WP:CROSSCAT and suggests the same rationale for deleting similar lists.)
- -- A. B. ( talk • contribs • global count) 04:01, 29 June 2023 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Liz Read! Talk! 06:25, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
List of Cornish artists, architects and craftspeople
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- List of Cornish artists, architects and craftspeople ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log | edits since nomination)
- (Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)
Fails WP:NLIST. Also, architects? Clarityfiend ( talk) 05:41, 18 June 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Lists of people and United Kingdom. Shellwood ( talk) 05:48, 18 June 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Artists-related deletion discussions. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 08:31, 18 June 2023 (UTC)
- Comment I think this list falls under "Lists of X of Y" and those guidelines are quite vague. This is a list of less than 50 names, mostly falling in the 19th and 20th century. The List of Cornish musicians and List of Cornish engineers and inventors are not robust either. I am unfamiliar with Cornwall, so can't judge the value of a list of Cornish people. WomenArtistUpdates ( talk) 01:05, 20 June 2023 (UTC)
- Also List of Cornish philanthropists and List of Cornish geologists and explorers are sparsely populated. WomenArtistUpdates ( talk) 01:17, 20 June 2023 (UTC)
- delete because categories exist and this is a glorified category.
Dronebogus (
talk) 18:06, 21 June 2023 (UTC)
- Also, architects are indeed artists, who are responsible for designing buildings. Builders and engineers actually construct them and deal with practical stuff. Dronebogus ( talk) 18:11, 21 June 2023 (UTC)
- That's your personal interpretation. Few people would consider architects to be artists (except for the Frank Lloyd Wrights of this world), so there are no lists with such an unusual agglomeration. Clarityfiend ( talk) 07:09, 25 June 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting. I know I'll get flak for this but this article has existed for 14 years, I'd like to see more policy-based reasons and support for deletion before hitting the Delete button.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 05:35, 25 June 2023 (UTC)
- Delete - Cornwall nowadays is just a region at the southwest corner of England. Briefly skim our constitutional status of Cornwall article for an overview why administratively it's been just another part of England for centuries and how the Cornish language faded from common usage in the 18th century. Attempts to gain autonomy for Cornwall like Scotland or Wales have fizzled due to lack of local support.
- We don't have lists like this for other regions or counties of England and there's no reason to believe a Cornish geologist, philanthropist or architect is going to be different from their other English counterparts. The list serves no purpose.
- In short, this list fails WP:NOT, specifically WP:CROSSCAT. In other words, Wikipedia is not "non-encyclopedic cross-categorizations". (Technically, this is a list, not a category but the notability discussion at WP:LISTN references WP:CROSSCAT and suggests the same rationale for deleting similar lists.)
- -- A. B. ( talk • contribs • global count) 04:01, 29 June 2023 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.