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The result was delete. Randykitty ( talk) 16:21, 2 January 2023 (UTC)
Hall M. Lyons
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Was AfD'd back in 2007, nothing has changed since then, (since he was dead). Fails WP:GNG. Onel5969 TT me 13:48, 26 December 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Politicians and Louisiana. Shellwood ( talk) 13:57, 26 December 2022 (UTC)
- Comment: Nothing has changed? There's sourcing. Dead? So are so many other article's subjects. Delete? Sure, if you plan to delete most other politicians that, in some way, failed. The fellow editor who objected to my use of the word FAILED in the short description clearly disagrees at least in part with the tone of "nothing has changed since then, (since he was dead)" I did this as an outgrowth of my response to a widow's outcry to her fellow humans at wiki. WHAT?? Chi Modu is filed under "M" and the only RedLink at his AlmaM is at "L" - this Lyons person. Delete the article? At least it isn't nonsense (as the first article, which I haven't seen, was tagged. 'Nuf said. Nuts240 ( talk) 23:10, 26 December 2022 (UTC)
- Delete. Notability is not inherited per WP:NOTINHERITED, so the fact that he was part of the Lyons Petroleum family business isn't a sufficient reason to keep. Per WP:NPOL, merely being an unelected candidate for office does not guarantee notability either. The sources cited in the article are mainly mentions in passing, as are the 5 articles found on ProQuest. If I had to choose a page to redirect to right now, it would probably be Louisiana's 3rd congressional district. Cielquiparle ( talk) 01:08, 27 December 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per Cielquiparle. Fails WP:NPOL and WP:GNG. Sal2100 ( talk) 20:07, 28 December 2022 (UTC)
- Delete. Notability is WP:NOTINHERITED, so he doesn't automatically get an article just for being related to other people, whereas unsuccessful candidates for office don't get articles just for being candidates either, and instead get articles only if they can show credible evidence that they were already notable for other reasons independent of the candidacy. But family and candidacy are the only notability claims being attempted here at all, and the referencing (which depends mainly on primary sources and paid-inclusion obituaries that aren't support for notability at all) is nowhere near sufficient to claim that he would pass WP:GNG in lieu of having to pass any SNGs. Bearcat ( talk) 17:13, 1 January 2023 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Randykitty ( talk) 16:21, 2 January 2023 (UTC)
Hall M. Lyons
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Was AfD'd back in 2007, nothing has changed since then, (since he was dead). Fails WP:GNG. Onel5969 TT me 13:48, 26 December 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Politicians and Louisiana. Shellwood ( talk) 13:57, 26 December 2022 (UTC)
- Comment: Nothing has changed? There's sourcing. Dead? So are so many other article's subjects. Delete? Sure, if you plan to delete most other politicians that, in some way, failed. The fellow editor who objected to my use of the word FAILED in the short description clearly disagrees at least in part with the tone of "nothing has changed since then, (since he was dead)" I did this as an outgrowth of my response to a widow's outcry to her fellow humans at wiki. WHAT?? Chi Modu is filed under "M" and the only RedLink at his AlmaM is at "L" - this Lyons person. Delete the article? At least it isn't nonsense (as the first article, which I haven't seen, was tagged. 'Nuf said. Nuts240 ( talk) 23:10, 26 December 2022 (UTC)
- Delete. Notability is not inherited per WP:NOTINHERITED, so the fact that he was part of the Lyons Petroleum family business isn't a sufficient reason to keep. Per WP:NPOL, merely being an unelected candidate for office does not guarantee notability either. The sources cited in the article are mainly mentions in passing, as are the 5 articles found on ProQuest. If I had to choose a page to redirect to right now, it would probably be Louisiana's 3rd congressional district. Cielquiparle ( talk) 01:08, 27 December 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per Cielquiparle. Fails WP:NPOL and WP:GNG. Sal2100 ( talk) 20:07, 28 December 2022 (UTC)
- Delete. Notability is WP:NOTINHERITED, so he doesn't automatically get an article just for being related to other people, whereas unsuccessful candidates for office don't get articles just for being candidates either, and instead get articles only if they can show credible evidence that they were already notable for other reasons independent of the candidacy. But family and candidacy are the only notability claims being attempted here at all, and the referencing (which depends mainly on primary sources and paid-inclusion obituaries that aren't support for notability at all) is nowhere near sufficient to claim that he would pass WP:GNG in lieu of having to pass any SNGs. Bearcat ( talk) 17:13, 1 January 2023 (UTC)
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