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The result was keep. Liz Read! Talk! 04:43, 4 February 2023 (UTC)
Frederick Lindo
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Article does not meet GNG or NBIO. No indication of notability. Sources are not SIGCOV addressing the subject directly and indepth. // Timothy :: talk 02:08, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Businesspeople and Jamaica. AllyD ( talk) 11:01, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
- Delete. In no way notable.
Athel cb (
talk) 12:45, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
- Why? Belichickoverbrady ( talk) 18:36, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
- Procedural Keep The nominator nominated 8 articles of members on the Lindo family in a 10 minute span and used the exact word-for-word deletion rationale for all of them. Of the subjects with "No indication of notability", least 2 were members of Jamaican Parliament and one was the Governor of Dominica for seven years. If the nominator would provide an article-specific rationale I will consider changing my vote but currently this looks like a mass-AfD with little WP:BEFORE research or even reading of the articles that are being nominated. Best,
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. Curbon7 ( talk) 23:17, 27 January 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Natg 19 ( talk) 01:58, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
Delete. Nominator's tack here is definitely problematic, and is showing little regard for very real differences in notability and sourceability within the group he's targeted — but in this particular article I can't see anything to base a keep argument on. The introduction says he was a politician, but then completely fails to contain any body content that describes any political activity, so he can't be judged against WP:NPOL, but there's really nothing else here that meets any of our other inclusion standards for people in other occupations either. And the article is referenced 3/4 to primary sources that aren't support for notability at all, and 1/4 to a book about the entire Lindo family, which is obviously a start but not in and of itself enough to secure the permanent encyclopedic notability of every individual member of that family all by itself without additional GNG-worthy reliable sourcing on top of that. Bearcat ( talk) 14:23, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
- @ Bearcat: If I'm reading the mention from this source correctly it would appear that he served as a member of the Legislative Council of Jamaica in the 1870's. Best, GPL93 ( talk) 20:01, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
- Comment Concur with GPL93, appears to have been a member of the Legislative Council (pp10-11). Regards, -- Goldsztajn ( talk) 11:09, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
- Keep Having served in a national legislative body, he clearly passes WP:NPOL criterion#1. Sal2100 ( talk) 21:27, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
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The result was keep. Liz Read! Talk! 04:43, 4 February 2023 (UTC)
Frederick Lindo
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Article does not meet GNG or NBIO. No indication of notability. Sources are not SIGCOV addressing the subject directly and indepth. // Timothy :: talk 02:08, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Businesspeople and Jamaica. AllyD ( talk) 11:01, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
- Delete. In no way notable.
Athel cb (
talk) 12:45, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
- Why? Belichickoverbrady ( talk) 18:36, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
- Procedural Keep The nominator nominated 8 articles of members on the Lindo family in a 10 minute span and used the exact word-for-word deletion rationale for all of them. Of the subjects with "No indication of notability", least 2 were members of Jamaican Parliament and one was the Governor of Dominica for seven years. If the nominator would provide an article-specific rationale I will consider changing my vote but currently this looks like a mass-AfD with little WP:BEFORE research or even reading of the articles that are being nominated. Best,
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. Curbon7 ( talk) 23:17, 27 January 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Natg 19 ( talk) 01:58, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
Delete. Nominator's tack here is definitely problematic, and is showing little regard for very real differences in notability and sourceability within the group he's targeted — but in this particular article I can't see anything to base a keep argument on. The introduction says he was a politician, but then completely fails to contain any body content that describes any political activity, so he can't be judged against WP:NPOL, but there's really nothing else here that meets any of our other inclusion standards for people in other occupations either. And the article is referenced 3/4 to primary sources that aren't support for notability at all, and 1/4 to a book about the entire Lindo family, which is obviously a start but not in and of itself enough to secure the permanent encyclopedic notability of every individual member of that family all by itself without additional GNG-worthy reliable sourcing on top of that. Bearcat ( talk) 14:23, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
- @ Bearcat: If I'm reading the mention from this source correctly it would appear that he served as a member of the Legislative Council of Jamaica in the 1870's. Best, GPL93 ( talk) 20:01, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
- Comment Concur with GPL93, appears to have been a member of the Legislative Council (pp10-11). Regards, -- Goldsztajn ( talk) 11:09, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
- Keep Having served in a national legislative body, he clearly passes WP:NPOL criterion#1. Sal2100 ( talk) 21:27, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
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