The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was merge‎ to Halo (franchise)#Plot. This section of this article already looks lengthy but if this is the target article/section, you prefer, so be it. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 02:44, 11 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Factions of Halo

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I don't believe this is notable as a group. It is largely Halo's gameplay not its universe; so merging it to Halo (franchise) seems to be more appropriate. GreenishPickle! ( 🔔) 04:55, 31 March 2024 (UTC) reply

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Fictional elements and Video games. GreenishPickle! ( 🔔) 04:55, 31 March 2024 (UTC) reply
• Merge Per nom. The article fails to make a good argument for how the factions have been discussed as a group. The Covenant and Flood are notable, but they already have their own articles. The rest can be summarized on the series page fairly easily if the extraneous material is removed. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ ( ᴛ) 10:42, 31 March 2024 (UTC) reply
• Comment. Polygon spends the better first half of this article discussing the factions [1], and there's [2] and [3] if you like Valnet, but there's less out there than I would have guessed. The thing stopping me from !voting merge is that the suggested target article is already 6,600 words, and merging even a portion of this 4,300 word article is well into WP:SIZESPLIT territory. ~ A412 ^talk! 16:24, 31 March 2024 (UTC) reply

  Perhaps a merge to List of Halo characters could work? Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 ( talk) 23:34, 31 March 2024 (UTC) reply

  That article is substantially worse, at 13,000 words. Definitely not. ~ A412 ^talk! 00:39, 2 April 2024 (UTC) reply

  The article is large but a lot of the development section may be redundant. It's not even specifically about the factions. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ ( ᴛ) 23:53, 31 March 2024 (UTC) reply

  I think I agree with a merge to various targets after going through the sections:

  • Development: Merge to Halo: Combat Evolved#Design, and a new Halo 2#Design subsection. as it's mostly sourced to design commentary from those two games.
  • Factions: Merge to Halo (franchise). The Forerunner section and Insurrectionists sections are particularly poorly sourced, so trim those heavily.
  • Cultural impact: This section is underdeveloped and redundant to elsewhere, don't merge.

  ~ A412 ^talk! 00:54, 2 April 2024 (UTC) reply

• Merge per ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ. Neutral on the target. There are already articles on the only two notable factions, and there isn't WP:SIGCOV for the factions outside of that. Shooterwalker ( talk) 15:14, 5 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting. There is a consensus to Merge but disagreement on what the target article(s) should be.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 05:28, 7 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Merge The article does have notable sources, but does not seem to require an article. A merge should be apt. MKsLifeInANutshell ( talk) 05:41, 7 April 2024 (UTC) reply

MKsLifeInANutshell, did you even read my relisting comment? Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 07:51, 7 April 2024 (UTC) reply

• Comment 2 editors already agreed to merge into Halo (franchise). Greenish Pickle! 05:31, 7 April 2024 (UTC) reply

There are several other options mentioned as well. Please sign your comments. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 07:51, 7 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Shooterwalker ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ Admin wants to make sure which target you guys prefer? GreenishPickle! ( 🔔) 08:13, 7 April 2024 (UTC) reply

For me the main target should be Halo (franchise)#Plot, though as detailed by A412, it can have different targets depending on the content. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ ( ᴛ) 08:50, 7 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Zxcvbnm is right. The redirect target can be the main series article. And some of it can be summarized at other articles if needed. Shooterwalker ( talk) 19:22, 7 April 2024 (UTC) reply

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.