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Dominic Joshua Ngene (PhD)

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Article reads like an advertisement. There are many parts of it that are uncited as well. Also, article is an orphan, and nothing links to Dominic Joshua Ngene as well, which is what the article should be titled anyway. ‍ Relativity 02:33, 31 January 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Delete: From Google, his name pops up here [1], which doesn't fill me with hope. He does not appear to be notable, and the flowery language doesn't help. Oaktree b ( talk) 02:57, 31 January 2024 (UTC) reply
    PhD with zero hits in Gscholar, appears to be marketing/promo article. I was expecting something based on the level of "success" the article portrays. Oaktree b ( talk) 02:59, 31 January 2024 (UTC) reply
    I would not delve into that to avoid sounding like one promoting or advertising him for any reason, however, it might interest you to note that he got an honorary doctoral degree from The university of Ecotes University, Benin. His focus may not be 100% on scholarly inputs, but majorly for his contribution to life in the field of philanthropy or just other contribution to his society. Brandheadway ( talk) 18:53, 3 February 2024 (UTC) reply
    I dont agree with you to the extent that, He obviously wanted to make a difference, but his experience was not deep enough to handle the kind of business he ventured into, a lot of even older and very experienced investment Bankers run into problems, a quick search on google will show you the long list of business decisions that went bunkers. they thought they were doing the right thing, but they were SINCERELY WRONG! The culture of total knock down of mistakes in the quest to create business success is not good. I think while it is expedient to bring to book any behavoiur that is against set business standards, we should also try to strike a balance between encouraging the youths to venture into the risky world of entrepreneurship/business. Brandheadway ( talk) 18:48, 3 February 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete. If it wasn't nominated for AfD, I likely would've tagged it for WP:G11. When the sections of the article include "Innovative Fintech Entrepreneurship", "Thought Leadership and Mentorship", and "Work-Life Balance and Values", and when the sources read like a press release, I'm inclined to believe that the subject lacks any real notability. It's also worth noting upon a quick Google search, the only coverage (minimal) that comes up revolve around the subject of the article allegedly committing fraud & the aforementioned press releases. Schrödinger's jellyfish  03:04, 31 January 2024 (UTC) reply
    It may be in order you kindly read the article again. its been reviewed and you may not find it advertorial in any way. most comments there are sourced, and you can peruse the link. thanks. Brandheadway ( talk) 18:57, 3 February 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Speedy Delete: G11 should work Just i yaya 03:25, 31 January 2024 (UTC) reply
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  • Comment I found this story, is this the same fellow? Liz Read! Talk! 06:46, 31 January 2024 (UTC) reply
    Yes, that's him since various sources mentioned he was just 21 years. Otuọcha ( talk) 19:30, 31 January 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete: Per nominator. Obvious advertising. Otuọcha ( talk) 19:29, 31 January 2024 (UTC) reply
    The content may have been misconstrued as a promotional piece, however, you may go through it again, i believe its been addressed to suit the original purpose of educating and informing the younger generation to see that success in entrepreneurship is still possible if you are focussed enough, yes you might encounter challenges, but with right mindset and societal encouragement, you can succeed as a young business individual, no matter what challenges you may face. your age and background should not be a deterrence. failure is a good opportunity to start all over again. dont give up. thats the intention, thats the motivation behind this piece of article Brandheadway ( talk) 18:58, 3 February 2024 (UTC) reply
    so it is PROMO, thank you for clearing that up. Oaktree b ( talk) 21:39, 5 February 2024 (UTC) reply
  • This is blatantly promotional (with lines including Dr. Joshua’s entrepreneurial spirit ignited during his early career, where he gained invaluable experience within established financial institutions and With a storied career that has reshaped the investment landscape and enriched the lives of many, Dr. Joshua continues to chart new territories in fintech innovation and philanthropy) for every single section, and should have been tagged for G11. So I would vote Speedy Delete (it can still be tagged as G11, though I won't do it here since not all opinions in this AfD are for speedy deletion). VickKiang (talk) 02:47, 2 February 2024 (UTC) reply
    Its been reviewed to address the misinterpretation of the purpose of the content. kindly read again. Brandheadway ( talk) 19:00, 3 February 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete: Per nominator. Blatant advertising and non-neutral use of language. The first two sentences (minus the "opening paragraph") alone show this blatantly. Sadustu Tau ( talk) 10:16, 2 February 2024 (UTC) reply
    The username of the person who created the article (Brandheadway) is also the name of a Nigerian marketing agency, which leads me to believe the user was created solely to advertise and promote certain people. Possibly even a conflict of interest. Sadustu Tau ( talk) 10:19, 2 February 2024 (UTC) reply
    Your insinuation is very very discouraging, it is misleading. You are wrong.
    If i understand correctly, the primary motive behind wikipedia concept, The idea behind Wikipedia is to create a freely accessible, collaboratively edited encyclopedia that contains information on a wide range of topics. Wikipedia aims to be a comprehensive and neutral source of information that is freely available to anyone with an internet connection.
    It does not BAR certain professionals from editing or creating contents, the content created should be viewed for what it stands for, every content created should be weighed on the scale of the information loaded and the sources of such info, lets not discourage editirs and prospective editors with our negative , discouraging insinuations.
    Lets not discourage certain professionals from enjoying what gives them fulfilment in life, by way of value and motivation to the youths.
    when you insinuate that a particular professional is assumed to be PROMOTING some certain individuals, you already shut down the motivation to write articles or add to what wikipedia represents. you may please go back and read the article again, its been reviewed.
    wikipedia is not gender bias, neither is it profession bias, please let's not discourage people from contributing. contents should be appraised on the source. I WILL NOT COLLECT A DIME TO PROMOTE ANYONE ON WIKIPEDIA. Thank you. Brandheadway ( talk) 19:08, 3 February 2024 (UTC) reply
    It can be promotional without exchange of financial instruments or anything of value. Building a brand or even using this to game the SEO results is considered promotional. Oaktree b ( talk) 21:41, 5 February 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Comment: and the photo's been tagged as a likely copyvio, copied from Instagram. Another red flag. Oaktree b ( talk) 15:11, 2 February 2024 (UTC) reply
Please, kindly re-read the article again, thank you. Brandheadway ( talk) 18:29, 3 February 2024 (UTC) reply
The content may have been misconstrued as a promotional piece, however, you may go through it again, i believe its been addressed to suit the original purpose of educating and informing the younger generation to see that success in entrepreneurship is still possible if you are focussed enough, yes you might encounter challenges, but with right mindset and societal encouragement, you can succeed as a young business individual, no matter what challenges you may face. your age and background should not be a deterrence. failure is a good opportunity to start all over again. dont give up. thats the intention, thats the motivation behind this piece of article. Brandheadway ( talk) 18:35, 3 February 2024 (UTC) reply
It is not advertorial or promotional in anyway. kindly go through the article again, a major part of it has been reviewed to remove that misdirection. Again, I think a part of us should encourage youths who see the likes of Elon musk, Mark Zuckerberg etc and want to be like them, Yes, they may go about the dream a wrong way, but if they are remorseful and willing to be corrected, they should be encouraged. NO FINANCIAL BENEFIT IS EXPECTED OR GIVEN FOR THIS ARTICLE. Brandheadway ( talk) 18:40, 3 February 2024 (UTC) reply
The content may have been misconstrued as a promotional piece, however, you may go through it again, i believe its been addressed to suit the original purpose of educating and informing the younger generation to see that success in entrepreneurship is still possible if you are focussed enough, yes you might encounter challenges, but with right mindset and societal encouragement, you can succeed as a young business individual, no matter what challenges you may face. your age and background should not be a deterrence. failure is a good opportunity to start all over again. dont give up. thats the intention, thats the motivation behind this piece of article Brandheadway ( talk) 18:54, 3 February 2024 (UTC) reply
It's not helping with the flowery language, the allegations of fake diplomas and not really much of substance. Oaktree b ( talk) 21:40, 5 February 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete: The problem here is that this is blatant promo puffery and would need to be G11ed and recreated possibly through AfC, so that our veteran reviewers would give an eye. BEFORE suggests that this passes GNG, but can't be kept in this current state because it is blatant advertorial. Vanderwaalforces ( talk) 16:13, 5 February 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Comment: This almost reads as someone who defrauded people and is trying to hide that fact. I have concerns with the "spin" being put on what is otherwise not very flattering coverage of the individual. At the very least, TNT this and send to AfC, if not outright deleted. Oaktree b ( talk) 21:43, 5 February 2024 (UTC) reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete‎. Complex/ Rational 14:15, 7 February 2024 (UTC) reply

Dominic Joshua Ngene (PhD)

Dominic Joshua Ngene (PhD) (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log | edits since nomination)
(Find sources:  Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs· FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Article reads like an advertisement. There are many parts of it that are uncited as well. Also, article is an orphan, and nothing links to Dominic Joshua Ngene as well, which is what the article should be titled anyway. ‍ Relativity 02:33, 31 January 2024 (UTC) reply

  • Note: This discussion has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. ‍ Relativity 02:33, 31 January 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete: From Google, his name pops up here [1], which doesn't fill me with hope. He does not appear to be notable, and the flowery language doesn't help. Oaktree b ( talk) 02:57, 31 January 2024 (UTC) reply
    PhD with zero hits in Gscholar, appears to be marketing/promo article. I was expecting something based on the level of "success" the article portrays. Oaktree b ( talk) 02:59, 31 January 2024 (UTC) reply
    I would not delve into that to avoid sounding like one promoting or advertising him for any reason, however, it might interest you to note that he got an honorary doctoral degree from The university of Ecotes University, Benin. His focus may not be 100% on scholarly inputs, but majorly for his contribution to life in the field of philanthropy or just other contribution to his society. Brandheadway ( talk) 18:53, 3 February 2024 (UTC) reply
    I dont agree with you to the extent that, He obviously wanted to make a difference, but his experience was not deep enough to handle the kind of business he ventured into, a lot of even older and very experienced investment Bankers run into problems, a quick search on google will show you the long list of business decisions that went bunkers. they thought they were doing the right thing, but they were SINCERELY WRONG! The culture of total knock down of mistakes in the quest to create business success is not good. I think while it is expedient to bring to book any behavoiur that is against set business standards, we should also try to strike a balance between encouraging the youths to venture into the risky world of entrepreneurship/business. Brandheadway ( talk) 18:48, 3 February 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete. If it wasn't nominated for AfD, I likely would've tagged it for WP:G11. When the sections of the article include "Innovative Fintech Entrepreneurship", "Thought Leadership and Mentorship", and "Work-Life Balance and Values", and when the sources read like a press release, I'm inclined to believe that the subject lacks any real notability. It's also worth noting upon a quick Google search, the only coverage (minimal) that comes up revolve around the subject of the article allegedly committing fraud & the aforementioned press releases. Schrödinger's jellyfish  03:04, 31 January 2024 (UTC) reply
    It may be in order you kindly read the article again. its been reviewed and you may not find it advertorial in any way. most comments there are sourced, and you can peruse the link. thanks. Brandheadway ( talk) 18:57, 3 February 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Speedy Delete: G11 should work Just i yaya 03:25, 31 January 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Nigeria-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 04:14, 31 January 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Finance-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 04:15, 31 January 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 04:15, 31 January 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 04:15, 31 January 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Comment I found this story, is this the same fellow? Liz Read! Talk! 06:46, 31 January 2024 (UTC) reply
    Yes, that's him since various sources mentioned he was just 21 years. Otuọcha ( talk) 19:30, 31 January 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete: Per nominator. Obvious advertising. Otuọcha ( talk) 19:29, 31 January 2024 (UTC) reply
    The content may have been misconstrued as a promotional piece, however, you may go through it again, i believe its been addressed to suit the original purpose of educating and informing the younger generation to see that success in entrepreneurship is still possible if you are focussed enough, yes you might encounter challenges, but with right mindset and societal encouragement, you can succeed as a young business individual, no matter what challenges you may face. your age and background should not be a deterrence. failure is a good opportunity to start all over again. dont give up. thats the intention, thats the motivation behind this piece of article Brandheadway ( talk) 18:58, 3 February 2024 (UTC) reply
    so it is PROMO, thank you for clearing that up. Oaktree b ( talk) 21:39, 5 February 2024 (UTC) reply
  • This is blatantly promotional (with lines including Dr. Joshua’s entrepreneurial spirit ignited during his early career, where he gained invaluable experience within established financial institutions and With a storied career that has reshaped the investment landscape and enriched the lives of many, Dr. Joshua continues to chart new territories in fintech innovation and philanthropy) for every single section, and should have been tagged for G11. So I would vote Speedy Delete (it can still be tagged as G11, though I won't do it here since not all opinions in this AfD are for speedy deletion). VickKiang (talk) 02:47, 2 February 2024 (UTC) reply
    Its been reviewed to address the misinterpretation of the purpose of the content. kindly read again. Brandheadway ( talk) 19:00, 3 February 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete: Per nominator. Blatant advertising and non-neutral use of language. The first two sentences (minus the "opening paragraph") alone show this blatantly. Sadustu Tau ( talk) 10:16, 2 February 2024 (UTC) reply
    The username of the person who created the article (Brandheadway) is also the name of a Nigerian marketing agency, which leads me to believe the user was created solely to advertise and promote certain people. Possibly even a conflict of interest. Sadustu Tau ( talk) 10:19, 2 February 2024 (UTC) reply
    Your insinuation is very very discouraging, it is misleading. You are wrong.
    If i understand correctly, the primary motive behind wikipedia concept, The idea behind Wikipedia is to create a freely accessible, collaboratively edited encyclopedia that contains information on a wide range of topics. Wikipedia aims to be a comprehensive and neutral source of information that is freely available to anyone with an internet connection.
    It does not BAR certain professionals from editing or creating contents, the content created should be viewed for what it stands for, every content created should be weighed on the scale of the information loaded and the sources of such info, lets not discourage editirs and prospective editors with our negative , discouraging insinuations.
    Lets not discourage certain professionals from enjoying what gives them fulfilment in life, by way of value and motivation to the youths.
    when you insinuate that a particular professional is assumed to be PROMOTING some certain individuals, you already shut down the motivation to write articles or add to what wikipedia represents. you may please go back and read the article again, its been reviewed.
    wikipedia is not gender bias, neither is it profession bias, please let's not discourage people from contributing. contents should be appraised on the source. I WILL NOT COLLECT A DIME TO PROMOTE ANYONE ON WIKIPEDIA. Thank you. Brandheadway ( talk) 19:08, 3 February 2024 (UTC) reply
    It can be promotional without exchange of financial instruments or anything of value. Building a brand or even using this to game the SEO results is considered promotional. Oaktree b ( talk) 21:41, 5 February 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Comment: and the photo's been tagged as a likely copyvio, copied from Instagram. Another red flag. Oaktree b ( talk) 15:11, 2 February 2024 (UTC) reply
Please, kindly re-read the article again, thank you. Brandheadway ( talk) 18:29, 3 February 2024 (UTC) reply
The content may have been misconstrued as a promotional piece, however, you may go through it again, i believe its been addressed to suit the original purpose of educating and informing the younger generation to see that success in entrepreneurship is still possible if you are focussed enough, yes you might encounter challenges, but with right mindset and societal encouragement, you can succeed as a young business individual, no matter what challenges you may face. your age and background should not be a deterrence. failure is a good opportunity to start all over again. dont give up. thats the intention, thats the motivation behind this piece of article. Brandheadway ( talk) 18:35, 3 February 2024 (UTC) reply
It is not advertorial or promotional in anyway. kindly go through the article again, a major part of it has been reviewed to remove that misdirection. Again, I think a part of us should encourage youths who see the likes of Elon musk, Mark Zuckerberg etc and want to be like them, Yes, they may go about the dream a wrong way, but if they are remorseful and willing to be corrected, they should be encouraged. NO FINANCIAL BENEFIT IS EXPECTED OR GIVEN FOR THIS ARTICLE. Brandheadway ( talk) 18:40, 3 February 2024 (UTC) reply
The content may have been misconstrued as a promotional piece, however, you may go through it again, i believe its been addressed to suit the original purpose of educating and informing the younger generation to see that success in entrepreneurship is still possible if you are focussed enough, yes you might encounter challenges, but with right mindset and societal encouragement, you can succeed as a young business individual, no matter what challenges you may face. your age and background should not be a deterrence. failure is a good opportunity to start all over again. dont give up. thats the intention, thats the motivation behind this piece of article Brandheadway ( talk) 18:54, 3 February 2024 (UTC) reply
It's not helping with the flowery language, the allegations of fake diplomas and not really much of substance. Oaktree b ( talk) 21:40, 5 February 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete: The problem here is that this is blatant promo puffery and would need to be G11ed and recreated possibly through AfC, so that our veteran reviewers would give an eye. BEFORE suggests that this passes GNG, but can't be kept in this current state because it is blatant advertorial. Vanderwaalforces ( talk) 16:13, 5 February 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Comment: This almost reads as someone who defrauded people and is trying to hide that fact. I have concerns with the "spin" being put on what is otherwise not very flattering coverage of the individual. At the very least, TNT this and send to AfC, if not outright deleted. Oaktree b ( talk) 21:43, 5 February 2024 (UTC) reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

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