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The result was keep. Star Mississippi 02:28, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
Christoph Steidl Porenta
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Lacks notability Doesn't meet criteria for notability ( WP:BIO). It is of a living person and apparently is an autobiography; see discussion at Help_desk. -- R. S. Shaw ( talk) 20:46, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
- @ R. S. Shaw You need to fix the template somehow, I recommend WP:TWINKLE for starting afd:s, it is so much simpler. Gråbergs Gråa Sång ( talk) 20:49, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
- And you did.
Gråbergs Gråa Sång (
talk) 20:50, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
- I tried Twinkle but could find no way to do it; the documentation only mentioned speedy delete, not AfD. --
R. S. Shaw (
talk) 20:55, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
- If I'm on an article, I get a "XFD" in my twinkle dropdown, but maybe that is a personal setting somewhere. Gråbergs Gråa Sång ( talk) 20:58, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
- I tried Twinkle but could find no way to do it; the documentation only mentioned speedy delete, not AfD. --
R. S. Shaw (
talk) 20:55, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
- Keep, I am the creator of this article. It is not a WP:AUTO, I have no WP:COI and IMO the subject meets WP:GNG per the sources in the article. Gråbergs Gråa Sång ( talk) 20:52, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
- Comment Adding to the argument for WP:GNG, check uploader "zlatoruno" Youtube videos. I won't link because reason. Several of these are tv-clips, one, length 4:51, from 2009 is even in English. Gråbergs Gråa Sång ( talk) 22:31, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
- Delete better than the version I speedied, but still blatant self-promotion with gushing cherry-picked quotes
Jimfbleak -
talk to me? 08:32, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
- Well, it's not self promoting, I added the quote, and the "gushing" stuff is reliably sourced and attributed. You are welcome to balance it with reliably published opposite/other opinions. Gråbergs Gråa Sång ( talk) 08:40, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
- Weak keep. Subject has been profiled in Mladina, in Dnevnik (Slovenia), and by the Slovenian Press Agency (STA). All three are respectable mainsteam Slovenian news organizations. In addition, he's been profiled in the Delo in Dom supplement to Delo (newspaper) [1] -- Delo is probably the closest thing that Slovenia has to a newspaper of record. "Weak" only because the small size of the Slovenian news market makes the coverage fairly local. Between the multiple sources and time over which he's been profiled, however, I think this is a pass of WP:BASIC. Russ Woodroofe ( talk) 13:11, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America 1000 10:04, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Slovenia-related deletion discussions. Russ Woodroofe ( talk) 11:18, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
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- Keep - This article has been improved since nom. I cannot see evidence that the reasons for nom are currently accurate. There is independent media coverage, and from the one or two I google translated, may well be significant depending on how known those outlets are in the relevant country. There is no grounds to substantiate a cause for deletion in my view after looking at the article against its nom criteria - Such-change47 ( talk) 11:33, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
- Keep - per GNG, knight of the Sovereign Order of Malta. Mary Mark Ockerbloom ( talk) 23:09, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
- Keep - meets GNG; claims in nomination that this is an autobiography clearly false.
Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing);
Talk to Andy;
Andy's edits 12:04, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
- Comment The claim in the nomination that the article Christoph Steidl Porenta "apparently is an autobiography" was based on the initial post by user:Christoph Steidl Porenta, which said:
Hello, I would like to post my biography, but I always get rejected. So, who can post my biography? Best regards, Christoph Steidl Porenta
- --
R. S. Shaw (
talk) 21:21, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
- So: no evidence that it is or was an autobiography, whatsoever.
Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing);
Talk to Andy;
Andy's edits 11:29, 8 May 2022 (UTC)
- Nope, that's not evidence it's an autobiography, just evidence supporting the claim in the nomination that there's an appearance that it might be an autobiography. -- R. S. Shaw ( talk) 21:17, 8 May 2022 (UTC)
- So: no evidence that it is or was an autobiography, whatsoever.
Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing);
Talk to Andy;
Andy's edits 11:29, 8 May 2022 (UTC)
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The result was keep. Star Mississippi 02:28, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
Christoph Steidl Porenta
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Lacks notability Doesn't meet criteria for notability ( WP:BIO). It is of a living person and apparently is an autobiography; see discussion at Help_desk. -- R. S. Shaw ( talk) 20:46, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
- @ R. S. Shaw You need to fix the template somehow, I recommend WP:TWINKLE for starting afd:s, it is so much simpler. Gråbergs Gråa Sång ( talk) 20:49, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
- And you did.
Gråbergs Gråa Sång (
talk) 20:50, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
- I tried Twinkle but could find no way to do it; the documentation only mentioned speedy delete, not AfD. --
R. S. Shaw (
talk) 20:55, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
- If I'm on an article, I get a "XFD" in my twinkle dropdown, but maybe that is a personal setting somewhere. Gråbergs Gråa Sång ( talk) 20:58, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
- I tried Twinkle but could find no way to do it; the documentation only mentioned speedy delete, not AfD. --
R. S. Shaw (
talk) 20:55, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
- Keep, I am the creator of this article. It is not a WP:AUTO, I have no WP:COI and IMO the subject meets WP:GNG per the sources in the article. Gråbergs Gråa Sång ( talk) 20:52, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
- Comment Adding to the argument for WP:GNG, check uploader "zlatoruno" Youtube videos. I won't link because reason. Several of these are tv-clips, one, length 4:51, from 2009 is even in English. Gråbergs Gråa Sång ( talk) 22:31, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
- Delete better than the version I speedied, but still blatant self-promotion with gushing cherry-picked quotes
Jimfbleak -
talk to me? 08:32, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
- Well, it's not self promoting, I added the quote, and the "gushing" stuff is reliably sourced and attributed. You are welcome to balance it with reliably published opposite/other opinions. Gråbergs Gråa Sång ( talk) 08:40, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
- Weak keep. Subject has been profiled in Mladina, in Dnevnik (Slovenia), and by the Slovenian Press Agency (STA). All three are respectable mainsteam Slovenian news organizations. In addition, he's been profiled in the Delo in Dom supplement to Delo (newspaper) [1] -- Delo is probably the closest thing that Slovenia has to a newspaper of record. "Weak" only because the small size of the Slovenian news market makes the coverage fairly local. Between the multiple sources and time over which he's been profiled, however, I think this is a pass of WP:BASIC. Russ Woodroofe ( talk) 13:11, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America 1000 10:04, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Slovenia-related deletion discussions. Russ Woodroofe ( talk) 11:18, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Artists-related deletion discussions. Russ Woodroofe ( talk) 11:18, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
- Keep - This article has been improved since nom. I cannot see evidence that the reasons for nom are currently accurate. There is independent media coverage, and from the one or two I google translated, may well be significant depending on how known those outlets are in the relevant country. There is no grounds to substantiate a cause for deletion in my view after looking at the article against its nom criteria - Such-change47 ( talk) 11:33, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
- Keep - per GNG, knight of the Sovereign Order of Malta. Mary Mark Ockerbloom ( talk) 23:09, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
- Keep - meets GNG; claims in nomination that this is an autobiography clearly false.
Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing);
Talk to Andy;
Andy's edits 12:04, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
- Comment The claim in the nomination that the article Christoph Steidl Porenta "apparently is an autobiography" was based on the initial post by user:Christoph Steidl Porenta, which said:
Hello, I would like to post my biography, but I always get rejected. So, who can post my biography? Best regards, Christoph Steidl Porenta
- --
R. S. Shaw (
talk) 21:21, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
- So: no evidence that it is or was an autobiography, whatsoever.
Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing);
Talk to Andy;
Andy's edits 11:29, 8 May 2022 (UTC)
- Nope, that's not evidence it's an autobiography, just evidence supporting the claim in the nomination that there's an appearance that it might be an autobiography. -- R. S. Shaw ( talk) 21:17, 8 May 2022 (UTC)
- So: no evidence that it is or was an autobiography, whatsoever.
Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing);
Talk to Andy;
Andy's edits 11:29, 8 May 2022 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.