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The result was delete. Joyous! | Talk 21:36, 7 November 2022 (UTC) reply

Brian Joseph Friel

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Little to no Significant Coverage; a Google news search for his name with verbatim results including middle name, and without middle name brings only his name in passing mention or another person named Brian Friel. Potentially a GNG fail. External links seem to essentially be WP:PROMO. InvadingInvader ( talk) 18:30, 10 October 2022 (UTC) reply

  • Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Bands and musicians, Music, and Scotland. InvadingInvader ( talk) 18:30, 10 October 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Comment. Andrew D. Armitage, ‎Dean Tudor (1976). Annual Index to Popular Music Record Reviews 1974. Scarecrow Press. p. 68. does have a listing for the album Second Hand Dealer with info on where to locate published reviews of the album; but unfortunately it's not available for viewing in google books other than snippet view which isn't helpful. It does indicate to me though, that reviews of this artist do exist, but they are likely either not online due to their age, or are behind a paywall. Hopefully some editors skilled in locating music reviews in the UK from the 1970s will participate in this discussion. On a side note, the artist is mostly known as Brian Friel without the middle name. I imagine this title was given to the wiki article because of the more prominent Irish playwright. Best. 4meter4 ( talk) 18:48, 10 October 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Comment. World Radio History has several short reviews of his debut album in UK and US music industry magazines around 1974-75 - Record Mirror, Walrus! (and again later when the US version came out), Cash Box. The list of guest musicians is pretty impressive. Adam Sampson ( talk) 15:24, 11 October 2022 (UTC) reply

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  • Delete Not notable enough. There are thousands if not millions of artist and guitarist. Just because you're one doesn't mean you're notable. I've also seen the references. And there's not a single reliable cite that isn't only a passing mention. Ploreky Have a problem? 17:24, 28 October 2022 (UTC) reply

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Final relist to hopefully garner more opinions on the status of this article.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:26, 31 October 2022 (UTC) reply

  • Delete Lacks in-depth coverage to meet WP:NBIO. MrsSnoozyTurtle 08:09, 7 November 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Delete mostly per Ploreky. Even a newspapers.com search on the full name returns just 1 hit, though surely someone even a little notable would get more than that. Otherwise as per others that I can't see how this can pass WP:MUSICBIO. Bungle ( talkcontribs) 20:39, 7 November 2022 (UTC) reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Joyous! | Talk 21:36, 7 November 2022 (UTC) reply

Brian Joseph Friel

Brian Joseph Friel (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log | edits since nomination)
(Find sources:  Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs· FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Little to no Significant Coverage; a Google news search for his name with verbatim results including middle name, and without middle name brings only his name in passing mention or another person named Brian Friel. Potentially a GNG fail. External links seem to essentially be WP:PROMO. InvadingInvader ( talk) 18:30, 10 October 2022 (UTC) reply

  • Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Bands and musicians, Music, and Scotland. InvadingInvader ( talk) 18:30, 10 October 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Comment. Andrew D. Armitage, ‎Dean Tudor (1976). Annual Index to Popular Music Record Reviews 1974. Scarecrow Press. p. 68. does have a listing for the album Second Hand Dealer with info on where to locate published reviews of the album; but unfortunately it's not available for viewing in google books other than snippet view which isn't helpful. It does indicate to me though, that reviews of this artist do exist, but they are likely either not online due to their age, or are behind a paywall. Hopefully some editors skilled in locating music reviews in the UK from the 1970s will participate in this discussion. On a side note, the artist is mostly known as Brian Friel without the middle name. I imagine this title was given to the wiki article because of the more prominent Irish playwright. Best. 4meter4 ( talk) 18:48, 10 October 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Comment. World Radio History has several short reviews of his debut album in UK and US music industry magazines around 1974-75 - Record Mirror, Walrus! (and again later when the US version came out), Cash Box. The list of guest musicians is pretty impressive. Adam Sampson ( talk) 15:24, 11 October 2022 (UTC) reply

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 20:54, 17 October 2022 (UTC) reply

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 22:26, 24 October 2022 (UTC) reply

  • Delete Not notable enough. There are thousands if not millions of artist and guitarist. Just because you're one doesn't mean you're notable. I've also seen the references. And there's not a single reliable cite that isn't only a passing mention. Ploreky Have a problem? 17:24, 28 October 2022 (UTC) reply

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Final relist to hopefully garner more opinions on the status of this article.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:26, 31 October 2022 (UTC) reply

  • Delete Lacks in-depth coverage to meet WP:NBIO. MrsSnoozyTurtle 08:09, 7 November 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Delete mostly per Ploreky. Even a newspapers.com search on the full name returns just 1 hit, though surely someone even a little notable would get more than that. Otherwise as per others that I can't see how this can pass WP:MUSICBIO. Bungle ( talkcontribs) 20:39, 7 November 2022 (UTC) reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

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