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The result was keep‎. Sources presented in this discussion are an effective contradiction to assertions in nomination statement. Liz Read! Talk! 00:29, 14 December 2023 (UTC) reply

2011 Copley Township shooting

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Fails WP:PERSISTENCE and WP:NOTNEWS. All sources on this shooting were published between 7 and 10 August 2011. A brief burst of coverage of coverage at the time of the event, with no further analysis or discussion is textbook PERSISTENCE, and there is no demonstration of enduring notability required to pass NOTNEWS. Sideswipe9th ( talk) 00:49, 7 December 2023 (UTC) reply

  • Keep, I think. Tenuous but it's not nothing.
2012 https://www.beaconjournal.com/story/news/local/2012/08/07/copley-mother-still-struggling-for/10676433007/
2012 https://www.beaconjournal.com/story/news/local/2012/08/07/copley-shootings-left-eight-dead/10676293007/
2012 https://www.cleveland19.com/story/19221014/remembering-one-year-anniversary-of-copley-massacre/
2012 https://fox8.com/news/community-members-honor-slain-neighbors-1-year-later/
2012 https://www.thepostnewspapers.com/norton/local_news/academy-students-learn-at-risk-clues/article_51a74867-328d-5143-8fe2-0c1a60065658.html
2013 https://patch.com/ohio/fairlawn-bath/officer-receives-medal-of-bravery-for-gunning-down-cofd347c8d84
discussed for a few pages in The Last Gun in 2013
The subject of an entire article of American Handgunner titled "The mass killer, the cop and the armed citizen" in November 2013
Retrospective article from a survivor in 2019 https://www.beaconjournal.com/story/news/crime/2019/08/12/this-isn-t-happening/4482037007/
Offhand mention in 2021 involving the officer that shot him but which I think shows at least local importance https://www.news5cleveland.com/news/local-news/akron-canton-news/copley-resource-officer-saves-choking-student-at-copley-middle-school
It's tenuous but there is coverage after the fact that tips it over to keep IMO. Also it was an "active shooter incident" due to the higher death toll so it's in a bunch of FBI reports but I don't think that really counts for notability PARAKANYAA ( talk) 10:44, 7 December 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Keep per the found sources of coverage in the years following the massacre. I think they're sufficient. Waddles  🗩  🖉 22:16, 7 December 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Keep as appears notable per above. Alextejthompson (Ping me or leave a message on my talk page) 22:42, 7 December 2023 (UTC) reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep‎. Sources presented in this discussion are an effective contradiction to assertions in nomination statement. Liz Read! Talk! 00:29, 14 December 2023 (UTC) reply

2011 Copley Township shooting

2011 Copley Township shooting (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:PERSISTENCE and WP:NOTNEWS. All sources on this shooting were published between 7 and 10 August 2011. A brief burst of coverage of coverage at the time of the event, with no further analysis or discussion is textbook PERSISTENCE, and there is no demonstration of enduring notability required to pass NOTNEWS. Sideswipe9th ( talk) 00:49, 7 December 2023 (UTC) reply

  • Keep, I think. Tenuous but it's not nothing.
2012 https://www.beaconjournal.com/story/news/local/2012/08/07/copley-mother-still-struggling-for/10676433007/
2012 https://www.beaconjournal.com/story/news/local/2012/08/07/copley-shootings-left-eight-dead/10676293007/
2012 https://www.cleveland19.com/story/19221014/remembering-one-year-anniversary-of-copley-massacre/
2012 https://fox8.com/news/community-members-honor-slain-neighbors-1-year-later/
2012 https://www.thepostnewspapers.com/norton/local_news/academy-students-learn-at-risk-clues/article_51a74867-328d-5143-8fe2-0c1a60065658.html
2013 https://patch.com/ohio/fairlawn-bath/officer-receives-medal-of-bravery-for-gunning-down-cofd347c8d84
discussed for a few pages in The Last Gun in 2013
The subject of an entire article of American Handgunner titled "The mass killer, the cop and the armed citizen" in November 2013
Retrospective article from a survivor in 2019 https://www.beaconjournal.com/story/news/crime/2019/08/12/this-isn-t-happening/4482037007/
Offhand mention in 2021 involving the officer that shot him but which I think shows at least local importance https://www.news5cleveland.com/news/local-news/akron-canton-news/copley-resource-officer-saves-choking-student-at-copley-middle-school
It's tenuous but there is coverage after the fact that tips it over to keep IMO. Also it was an "active shooter incident" due to the higher death toll so it's in a bunch of FBI reports but I don't think that really counts for notability PARAKANYAA ( talk) 10:44, 7 December 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Keep per the found sources of coverage in the years following the massacre. I think they're sufficient. Waddles  🗩  🖉 22:16, 7 December 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Keep as appears notable per above. Alextejthompson (Ping me or leave a message on my talk page) 22:42, 7 December 2023 (UTC) reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

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