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Those who create a stub template/cat should be responsible for moving the discussion here and listing the stub type in the archive summary.
Stub proposers please note: Items tagged as "nocreate" or "no consensus" are welcome for re-proposal if and when circumstances are auspicious.
The result of the debate was create upmerged state templates as needed, cats when needed.
I'm workign on a project to potentially create a large number of stub articles from the National Park Service's NRHP database and it would probably nice to a stub solely for those articles since there will probably be 100's if not more. There is also a WikiProject specifically to expand on these articles so having a single stub tag would make it easier to track them down. Something like {{nrhp-stub}}.
pw
02:05, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
The result of the debate was do not create.
Is this a proposal? If so, of what kind? You seem to be suggestinbg a non-stub template here. Or do you mean some kind of {{
Rail-signal-stub}}? Speak to us!
Grutness...
wha?
00:55, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
The result of the debate was discuss at sfd.
To fit the scoupe of the by then revived R&B and Soul Music WikiProject. Eduemoni ↑talk↓ 03:14, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
The result of the debate was create.
The following templates have also reached de-upmerger point so I propose categories for
Waacstats 23:04, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
The result of the debate was create.
the following templates have all passed 60 so I propose de-upmerging them to the relevant category
Also will need to rename the respective catch-all categories. (does that need to be done here or sfd). Waacstats 12:27, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
The result of the debate was create by title.
Category:Marvel Comics stubs is another that's sneaked over 800 when I wasn't looking. Most of these seem to be characters, so I suggest we split those out -- I think I might have proposed that before. That could be split up into assorted subcats, such as: supporting characters, mutants characters with superhuman strength, superheroes, deities and immortals (all of which there's permcats and the numbers for), but I'm not sure there'd be much point or support. But I'd also like to propose:
which seems more clearly distinct. Alai 05:40, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
The result of the debate was create.
Someone's been busy, increasing the number of {{
Tuvalu-geo-stub}}s from 14 to 80 over the last few weeks. A
Category:Tuvalu geography stubs is now viable.
Grutness...
wha?
07:31, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
The result of the debate was create.
Two new subcategories of
Category:Luxembourg stubs, under the aegis of WikiProject Luxembourg:
Bastin 11:25, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
The result of the debate was create.
We've already started splitting Romania by "county", so this is probably speediable:
Given the large number of counties, however, it'll probably be necessary after that to upmerge to the development regions of Romania, new-fangled makey-uppy agglomerations of counties for NUTS and subsidy-farming purposes, and also handy for ours. (Parent is oversized, btw.) Alai 03:35, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
The result of the debate was create.
To cover the many London UK stubs not covered by the very specific stub types already listed —Preceding
unsigned comment added by
Barliner (
talk •
contribs)
The result of the debate was create.
A genuinely speediable one this time, as per comments at
Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Stub sorting/Proposals#Stub Help. The upmerged {{
cambodia-bio-stub}} now has some 75 stubs.
Grutness...
wha?
23:42, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
The result of the debate was do not create.
Request for approval...
Cookie Monster
09:14, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
The result of the debate was create.
Sudden huge increase in several of the organism stub types, including the
Category:Bird stubs. These additional orders look viable:
These are just based on infoboxing, so very likely to be undercounts. Much as I hate to pile on the "over-speedying", I'm inclined to do these one (and the other taxon-based cases to follow shortly) in a day or so if there are no substantiative objections: we've already started splitting by order, and the names should be straightforward (article and permcats use these in each case). (It looks like there's a db dump fairly imminent, and it'd be handy to take care of some of the more humungous cases before then, and see where that leaves us with the remainder.) Alai 21:59, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
The result of the debate was create.
Evidently ad hoc unproposed stub types to do with some aspect or other of Hasidism will continue to spring and attract staunch (or at least, numerous) defenders at SFD, but it still strikes me as a neater solution to have a
Category:Hasidic Judaism stubs type; at the least, it can serve as an umbrella for all those other ones.
Alai
03:34, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
The result of the debate was create.
I find over 75 articles that would fall in here, looking at
Category:Internet radio,
Category:Internet television,
Category:Internet stubs,
Category:Podcasting and
Category:Internet publication stubs. There is currently a {{
Internet-tv-stub}} over at Discoveries, and I propose we eliminate that and use this proposed stub/cat for any radio, tv or other audio/visual media produced for the Internet.
Her Pegship
(tis herself)
06:10, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
The result of the debate was no consensus.
This existing stub is the closest I can find: {{compu-bio-stub}}
Which returns: This biographical article relating to a computer specialist is a stub.
However what is needed hear is stub status reading: This article is a computer specialist related stub.
I can see a number of articles that need to move to this status. This thought came to me when I saw that Systems analyst had no proper stub to go into. But there are many computer related articles that should also go into this stub instead of the more general overal computer stub. This is not hardware, not software, networking but encompasses all as would computer related but at a more complex level. -- akc9000 ( talk • contribs • count) 12:57, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
The result of the debate was create as revised.
Category:Rodent stubs is out of controll (over 1000 articles). Going through the list, a lot of the animals in the category are "rats" or "mice", which is most of
Muroid rodents are.
Od
Mishehu
11:44, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
The result of the debate was see discussion at sfd.
Request for a speedy approval. I have populated the category. There is a substantial work on a
proposed
Wikipedia:WikiProject Logic, and
Portal:Logic. There are pov issues arising which have lead to an increased need for the general category:logic rather than math-logic.
The category is consistent with WikiProject Philosophy stub categories.
The result of the debate was do not create.
Request for a speedy approval of the stub - there is a significant body of knowledge around systems engineering that relates to ERP Systems and Production and Manufacturing and Information Technology in general.
Broadly speaking Systems Engineering is the discipline focused on the design and implementation of the business processes and information technology (software) tools used in contemporary businesses.
The category is consistent with WikiProject Category:Engineering stubs
The result of the debate was no consensus.
—Preceding unsigned comment added by Ricardo Carneiro Pires ( talk • contribs)
The result of the debate was create.
This category is almost at 700 stubs and we seem to have no consitent way of splitting these yet (we have -bio, -film and mixedmartialart- ). 2 Possible splits would be
with 70-90 stubs each. We could go for either or both but i don't know how much if any overlap exists. Which ever way we go
would seem useful either to stop judo stubs being swamped with over 400 biographies or just as a split of the 600+ strong Category:Martial arts biography stubs Waacstats 15:44, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
The result of the debate was create.
Just about oversize I propose the following
figures per catscan, Sport-bio-stub would also have cycling-bio and footy-bio as subcats. Waacstats 18:36, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
The result of the debate was create.
Currently {{
India-tv-stub}} categorizes articles under
Category:Asian television stubs. Over 76 articles are using the Indian stub template. I feel these articles should be categorized under
Category:Indian television stubs. Regards,
Ganeshk (
talk)
03:17, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
The result of the debate was create.
De-upmerge:
Her Pegship (tis herself) 22:19, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
The result of the debate was create as Science fiction television episode stubs.
I would like to propose a new stub type,
Category:Science fiction episode stubs, as a subtype of
Category:Television episode stubs, two examples of articles in this category would be
The Girl Who Was Plugged In (Welcome To Paradox) or
The Human Factor (2002 The Outer Limits).
Carpetsmoker
21:14, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
The result of the debate was do not create.
Would like to add two one sub-cat for this category. One for
National Football League specific stubs and one for
College football specific stubs. To clarify, College football stubs exist at
Category:College football stubs, I want to move that under the American football stubs cat.
Juan Miguel Fangio|
►Chat
11:53, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
The result of the debate was already approved.
-- Ricardo 12:53, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
The result of the debate was do not create.
I propose a nationality split of the category of
video game musician stubs. There are many Japanese and American video game musicians described at Wikipedia. The original video game musician stub type template should be used for nationalities other than Japanese and American. The proposals are:
Decimus Tedius Regio Zanarukando 03:26, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
The result of the debate was create.
Category over 700 and creeping towards oversize, can't quite find any country reaching 60 with catscan but hopefully will pick up a few extra through hand sorting. The following all appear to be over 30 articles and atleast in my view worthwhile having:
All upmerged to Category:European sports venue stubs and the relevant building and structure category. Waacstats 22:43, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
The result of the debate was create.
As above, Category over 700 and heading towards 800, catscan does not give country 60 however all the following would have atleast 30 uses:
all upmerged to Category:Figure skater stubs and the relevent wintersport-bio- / sport-bio- / -bio- stub category. Also possibly a Category:European figure skater stub with a {{ Euro-figure-skater-stub}} to mop up. Waacstats 22:43, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
The result of the debate was create.
both ukraine and belarus have enough articles for a sport-bio-stub. In the case of Ukraine it would already have 2 sub cats (athletics and football) and if the above proposal is passed then an upmerged template while belarus already has 1 upmerged template (athletics). I propose the following:
Waacstats 22:43, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
The result of the debate was do not create.
I propose a stub for the UN Project page,
--
Wfwpeurope
22:41, 26 July 2007 (UTC)wfwpeurope
The result of the debate was create upmerged templates.
I propose split of Czech-geo-stub to 13 stubs, consistent with primary administrative subdivision of the country. Four stubs were already created by Alai year ago. The rest is getting close to 700 articles and a split is needed, plus all municipalities are not yet covered and it is only a matter of time when hundreds of new articles will appear. Therefore I propose:
- Darwinek 19:24, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
The result of the debate was create.
De upmerge {{
Estonia-politician-stub}}. Now 60+ articles. If anybody is game for finding a few more articles somewhere; the following countries are getting close: Croatia (58), Zimbabwe (57, not a joke), Nicaragua (56), Honduras (54), Ghana (52), El Salvador (52), Panama (50), Somalia (47), Amazingly, Eritrea has jumped from one article to 44 in around a year.
Valentinian
T /
C
22:25, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
The result of the debate was create.
De upmerge {{
Laos-bio-stub}}. Now 60+ articles.
Valentinian
T /
C
21:57, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
The result of the debate was create.
de upmerge {{
Kyrgyzstan-bio-stub}} as now over 60 articles.
Waacstats
22:34, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
The result of the debate was create as revised.
{{
Atari-stub}},
Category:Atari stubs
{{ TakeTwo-stub}}, Category:Take-Two Interactive stubs
{{ Ubisoft-stub}}, Category:Ubisoft stubs
{{
SCE-stub}}, {{
SOE-stub}}, {{
Sony-videogame-stub}}, {{
SOE-game-stub}}
Category:Sony Computer Entertainment stubs
For some reason signing didn't occur to me on these pages. I would also like to point out that I do plan on populating these categories if they are created.
What I realized when I was digging through "What links here" for Taito Corporation to populate the {{tl:Taito-videogame-stub}}, is that there are a ton of stubs that have no stub templates. Many are even rated as "Stubs" There are also many games that have no game categories, and no {{ cvgproj}} on the discussion page. My thinking is that creating these categories encourages people (like me) to add templates to types of games they're interested in, and to go through and try to improve those articles (I'm partial to Category:Fighting-game-stubs). Looking at the list of top Video game publishers, I have some new proposals. More huge companies, and MS-DOS -
{{ Activision-stub}}, {{ Infocom-stub}}, Category:Activision stubs
{{ THQ-stub}}, Category:THQ stubs
{{ Disney-videogame-stub}}, Category:Disney video game stubs
{{ SCi-videogame-stub}} {{ Eidos-stub}}, Category:SCi video game stubs
{{
MSDOS-game-stub}} {{
Computer-game-stub}},
Category:MS-DOS game stubs
Category:Computer game stubs
The result of the debate was no consensus.
Poetry stubs are oversized, and there'd be 183 of these.
Alai
00:07, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
The result of the debate was create baseball season stubs.
Yet another oversized type, these look viable and more or less sensible. Alai 23:48, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
The result of the debate was create.
Yet another one. Plan here would be to split into these three subfamilies, and populate via upmerged per-genus templates. Alai 22:38, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
The result of the debate was create upmerged template as Etruria-stub.
There seem to be a
bunch of stubs related to the Etruscans and no suitable tag. Most of them are tagged as Ancient Rome stubs or something similar, which isn't accurate.
Pax:Vobiscum
14:19, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
The result of the debate was create.
A new purposed stub that will be for Kazakhstani sportspeople. I have counted around 65 Kazakhstani sportspeople articles which are stubs without counting the Kazakhstani footballers who are 35 which around 25 of them minimum are stubs. So there are around more than 80 stub articles for Kazakhstani sportspeople.--
KRBN
18:22, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
The result of the debate was create.
Similar deal to the previous, parent somewhat larger-still. Alai 05:14, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
The result of the debate was create.
Over 1000 articles, so should be oversized by anyone's standard.
Now, it must be said that these Regierungsbezirk have actually be abolished, but I'm of the view that we should use them anyway, as an upmerger target for per-kreis templates. (There's 24 districts, so few of those will be viable in the short run.) Alai 05:08, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
The result of the debate was create.
Just a tad oversized at 31 listings pages, I suggest strongly recommend splitting
Category:Amphibian stubs by family, and in at least one case, by genus:
I wouldn't normally propose such large types as several of the above, but this in somewhat exceptional as it's not "natural" growth, and the scope for further increases is in many cases now quite limited. (No more articles left to create!) I'm open to further splitting by genus or subfamily if people would prefer, though. Obviously there's the issue of whether a common name would be preferable in any of the above cases (personally I have little in the way of idea about that). Alai 17:46, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
{{
animal-stub}}
. ~
JohnnyMrNinja
04:08, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
The result of the debate was create.
I've un-upmerged two of the oft-deleted country songs by decade types:
as this time, they've actually grown into threshold territory. Total numbers are still modest as regards the need for a split, though I suppose it's always better to be in front than 6000 articles behind (mentioning no Polbot amphibians in particular). Alai 16:50, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
The result of the debate was create.
Another Polbot run; more bird orders.
If you think that's a lot, just wait for the amphibians... Alai 06:18, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
The result of the debate was create.
Category:Quebec geography stubs is over 800; this one region would be over threshold.
Alai
05:32, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
The result of the debate was create as revised.
I propose creating a new stub type, {{
reproduction-stub}}, as a subtype of {{
medicine-stub}}, an overpopulated stub category. I found a substantial number of stubs in
Category:Medicine stubs and its parent,
Category:Health stubs, that would qualify; they are listed
here. This stub type would encompass stubs relating to human reproduction, including reproductive health, obstetrics, and perinatology, but not those relating to sociological aspects of human sexuality. --
Ginkgo100
talk
21:14, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
Per this discussion, I have created the stub category at Category:Human reproduction stubs as a subcat of Category:Health stubs, and the template at {{ human-repro-stub}}. Now I will start moving appropriate stubs into the new cat. -- Ginkgo100 talk 21:54, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
The result of the debate was create three additional genus stub types.
-- Ricardo 12:53, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
The result of the debate was create.
And believe it or not, one of the existing bird stub types is itself considerably oversized: I suggest we re-split at the family level. In three of these cases the naming issue isn't quite so clear-cut, since the article is at one name, and the category at the other. Either's fine with me. Alai 22:18, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
Here's updated per-family counts, up to the first "natural break" just below the normal threshold: the size of this really boggles the mind. (I've asked the driver of the bot that's creating these to give us a "heads up" of future 'incoming'.)
If any of these look dodgy (taxonimically, or in need of a different name), please let me know, otherwise I'll just start at the top of the list, and work my way on down... Alai 07:08, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
The result of the debate was create as revised.
Excluding
districts (which mean nothing to anyone),
cantons are the top administrative level, so ought to have geography stubs if possible. Create as stub category under
Category:Luxembourg geography stubs (all numbers from CatScan for use of {{
Luxembourg-geo-stub}} and verified manually):
Create as upmerged templates (under Category:Luxembourg geography stubs):
For the record, three cantons - Echternach (26 stubs (25 + 1)), Remich (27 stubs (26 + 1)), and Vianden (10 stubs (10 + 0)) - failed to have enough even for upmerged templates. I would expect the Esch-sur-Alzette canton to hit 60 in the next couple of months, as I will probably start on creating articles for the quarters of the city of Esch-sur-Alzette (there are 17, but only 1 exists so far).
Bastin 19:19, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
That sounds pretty much right, though probably the former would be at {{ Luxembourgcanton-geo-stub}}, as per Alai's point about the capitalisation of cantons. Grutness... wha? 01:46, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
The result of the debate was create.
Category over 700 propose split as usual by decade of birth with {{
Widereceiver-xxxx-stub}} and
Category:Widereceiver, xxxxs birth stubs and a catch all category.
Waacstats
22:45, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
The result of the debate was create upmerged templates.
At present we have {{
LakeMacquarie-geo-stub}}, {{
NewcastleNSW-geo-stub}} and {{
PortStephens-geo-stub}} directing into this category - I propose we have one template. This would allow us to incorporate other sections of the Hunter region (Cessnock, Maitland, Dungog, Gloucester etc) which are currently in the generic
Category:New South Wales geography stubs into this category.
Orderinchaos
08:36, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
{{
HunterNSW-geo-stub}}
(to match {{
CentralCoastNSW-geo-stub}}
and the deletion of the other stub templates. Please be aware that
Wikipedia:Stub#Creating_stub_types clearly states that stub types require at least 60 stubs each, and that a "stub type consists of a stub template and a dedicated stub category". Upmerged templates are not bound by that rule. Upmerged templates need only fit a reasonable purpose within a specific stub type. If these upmerged templates do not serve a useful purpose, by all means delete, but it seems they do. Better to Keep upmerged templates, and Create {{
HunterNSW-geo-stub}}
, as well as {{
IllawarraNSW-geo-stub}}
for
Category:Illawarra region geography stubs. ~
JohnnyMrNinja
03:50, 1 August 2007 (UTC){{
HunterValley-geo-stub}}
(or perhaps {{
HunterValleyNSW-geo-stub}}
if someone so prefers). ~
JohnnyMrNinja
06:01, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
How does that sound? ~ JohnnyMrNinja 08:31, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
The result of the debate was merge to CentralCoastNSW-geo-stub.
The separation between Gosford and Wyong is an artificial split of an area with a single common identity, and Wyong by current guidelines is too small to sustain its own category anyway. Even the Australian Bureau of Statistics [2] combines them into one area, and does not recognise them (2001 census) as separate urban areas. Our national broadcaster also treats them the same as do most NSW government agencies. Orderinchaos 08:26, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
The result of the debate was create as revised by Grutness.
About half of the approximately 350 articles in this cat are biographical in nature, so it would seem that a new bio sub-category (
Category:LDS bio stubs) and it's matching stub template ({{LDS-bio-stub}}) would be useful. The statement explaining the cat could state something like: "This category is for biographical stub articles relating to the
Latter Day Saint movement." --
71.35.46.20
02:15, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
The result of the debate was create US-judge-stub.
You've guessed it, oversized. I suggest:
Or ambiguous adjectives to that effect. Counts are based on permcat membership without overlap into the other; hand-sorting is likely to be able to split up the parent on these lines much sort. Alai 00:02, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
The result of the debate was create.
Not quite a taxon-based type or split, but in the same foodgroup, and also suddenly huge. These are perhaps broader than would be ideal, but I don't see much that'd be viable at the order level, which would seem like the next logical step. Doubtless soon enough, though, so upmerged templates are perhaps the way to go. Alai 22:31, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
The result of the debate was create.
Among the first 20
Paleontology stubs (excluding the AL-#-1 pages), 18 are
Ammonites (the other two being a
trilobyte and an
amphibian). Since
Category:Paleontology stubs is oversized, this should help reduce it to a smaller size. In addition, this should help reduce the size of
Category:Cephalopod stubs, which is also oversized, since Ammonites were
cephalopods.
Od
Mishehu
13:49, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
The result of the debate was create.
Last year (see link below), there was no consensus as only 30-40 stubs were located. Today catscan gives
~130 stubs for
Category:Palaces. Btw, is
StubSense down?--
Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus |
talk
14:34, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
The result of the debate was create.
This stub
was created in July'06 but apparently deleted some time afterwards (I cannot find a link to deletion discussion). CatScan of
Category:Castles for <1024 bytes and <4 links yelds ~450 results (
[3]), current subcategories for stubs of British castles account only for ~390 stubs (some of which may overlap). While I applaud British Wikipedians for their devotion to stubbing every castle, other nations deserve at least a generic castle-stub.--
Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus |
talk
14:34, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
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This is an archive of discussions from Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Proposals for the month of July 2007. Please move completed July discussions to this page as they occur, add discussion headers to each proposal showing the result, and leave incomplete discussions on the Proposals page. After July, the remainder of the discussions will be moved to this page, whether stub types have been created or not.
Those who create a stub template/cat should be responsible for moving the discussion here and listing the stub type in the archive summary.
Stub proposers please note: Items tagged as "nocreate" or "no consensus" are welcome for re-proposal if and when circumstances are auspicious.
The result of the debate was create upmerged state templates as needed, cats when needed.
I'm workign on a project to potentially create a large number of stub articles from the National Park Service's NRHP database and it would probably nice to a stub solely for those articles since there will probably be 100's if not more. There is also a WikiProject specifically to expand on these articles so having a single stub tag would make it easier to track them down. Something like {{nrhp-stub}}.
pw
02:05, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
The result of the debate was do not create.
Is this a proposal? If so, of what kind? You seem to be suggestinbg a non-stub template here. Or do you mean some kind of {{
Rail-signal-stub}}? Speak to us!
Grutness...
wha?
00:55, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
The result of the debate was discuss at sfd.
To fit the scoupe of the by then revived R&B and Soul Music WikiProject. Eduemoni ↑talk↓ 03:14, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
The result of the debate was create.
The following templates have also reached de-upmerger point so I propose categories for
Waacstats 23:04, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
The result of the debate was create.
the following templates have all passed 60 so I propose de-upmerging them to the relevant category
Also will need to rename the respective catch-all categories. (does that need to be done here or sfd). Waacstats 12:27, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
The result of the debate was create by title.
Category:Marvel Comics stubs is another that's sneaked over 800 when I wasn't looking. Most of these seem to be characters, so I suggest we split those out -- I think I might have proposed that before. That could be split up into assorted subcats, such as: supporting characters, mutants characters with superhuman strength, superheroes, deities and immortals (all of which there's permcats and the numbers for), but I'm not sure there'd be much point or support. But I'd also like to propose:
which seems more clearly distinct. Alai 05:40, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
The result of the debate was create.
Someone's been busy, increasing the number of {{
Tuvalu-geo-stub}}s from 14 to 80 over the last few weeks. A
Category:Tuvalu geography stubs is now viable.
Grutness...
wha?
07:31, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
The result of the debate was create.
Two new subcategories of
Category:Luxembourg stubs, under the aegis of WikiProject Luxembourg:
Bastin 11:25, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
The result of the debate was create.
We've already started splitting Romania by "county", so this is probably speediable:
Given the large number of counties, however, it'll probably be necessary after that to upmerge to the development regions of Romania, new-fangled makey-uppy agglomerations of counties for NUTS and subsidy-farming purposes, and also handy for ours. (Parent is oversized, btw.) Alai 03:35, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
The result of the debate was create.
To cover the many London UK stubs not covered by the very specific stub types already listed —Preceding
unsigned comment added by
Barliner (
talk •
contribs)
The result of the debate was create.
A genuinely speediable one this time, as per comments at
Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Stub sorting/Proposals#Stub Help. The upmerged {{
cambodia-bio-stub}} now has some 75 stubs.
Grutness...
wha?
23:42, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
The result of the debate was do not create.
Request for approval...
Cookie Monster
09:14, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
The result of the debate was create.
Sudden huge increase in several of the organism stub types, including the
Category:Bird stubs. These additional orders look viable:
These are just based on infoboxing, so very likely to be undercounts. Much as I hate to pile on the "over-speedying", I'm inclined to do these one (and the other taxon-based cases to follow shortly) in a day or so if there are no substantiative objections: we've already started splitting by order, and the names should be straightforward (article and permcats use these in each case). (It looks like there's a db dump fairly imminent, and it'd be handy to take care of some of the more humungous cases before then, and see where that leaves us with the remainder.) Alai 21:59, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
The result of the debate was create.
Evidently ad hoc unproposed stub types to do with some aspect or other of Hasidism will continue to spring and attract staunch (or at least, numerous) defenders at SFD, but it still strikes me as a neater solution to have a
Category:Hasidic Judaism stubs type; at the least, it can serve as an umbrella for all those other ones.
Alai
03:34, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
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I find over 75 articles that would fall in here, looking at
Category:Internet radio,
Category:Internet television,
Category:Internet stubs,
Category:Podcasting and
Category:Internet publication stubs. There is currently a {{
Internet-tv-stub}} over at Discoveries, and I propose we eliminate that and use this proposed stub/cat for any radio, tv or other audio/visual media produced for the Internet.
Her Pegship
(tis herself)
06:10, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
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This existing stub is the closest I can find: {{compu-bio-stub}}
Which returns: This biographical article relating to a computer specialist is a stub.
However what is needed hear is stub status reading: This article is a computer specialist related stub.
I can see a number of articles that need to move to this status. This thought came to me when I saw that Systems analyst had no proper stub to go into. But there are many computer related articles that should also go into this stub instead of the more general overal computer stub. This is not hardware, not software, networking but encompasses all as would computer related but at a more complex level. -- akc9000 ( talk • contribs • count) 12:57, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
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Category:Rodent stubs is out of controll (over 1000 articles). Going through the list, a lot of the animals in the category are "rats" or "mice", which is most of
Muroid rodents are.
Od
Mishehu
11:44, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
The result of the debate was see discussion at sfd.
Request for a speedy approval. I have populated the category. There is a substantial work on a
proposed
Wikipedia:WikiProject Logic, and
Portal:Logic. There are pov issues arising which have lead to an increased need for the general category:logic rather than math-logic.
The category is consistent with WikiProject Philosophy stub categories.
The result of the debate was do not create.
Request for a speedy approval of the stub - there is a significant body of knowledge around systems engineering that relates to ERP Systems and Production and Manufacturing and Information Technology in general.
Broadly speaking Systems Engineering is the discipline focused on the design and implementation of the business processes and information technology (software) tools used in contemporary businesses.
The category is consistent with WikiProject Category:Engineering stubs
The result of the debate was no consensus.
—Preceding unsigned comment added by Ricardo Carneiro Pires ( talk • contribs)
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This category is almost at 700 stubs and we seem to have no consitent way of splitting these yet (we have -bio, -film and mixedmartialart- ). 2 Possible splits would be
with 70-90 stubs each. We could go for either or both but i don't know how much if any overlap exists. Which ever way we go
would seem useful either to stop judo stubs being swamped with over 400 biographies or just as a split of the 600+ strong Category:Martial arts biography stubs Waacstats 15:44, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
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Just about oversize I propose the following
figures per catscan, Sport-bio-stub would also have cycling-bio and footy-bio as subcats. Waacstats 18:36, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
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Currently {{
India-tv-stub}} categorizes articles under
Category:Asian television stubs. Over 76 articles are using the Indian stub template. I feel these articles should be categorized under
Category:Indian television stubs. Regards,
Ganeshk (
talk)
03:17, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
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De-upmerge:
Her Pegship (tis herself) 22:19, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
The result of the debate was create as Science fiction television episode stubs.
I would like to propose a new stub type,
Category:Science fiction episode stubs, as a subtype of
Category:Television episode stubs, two examples of articles in this category would be
The Girl Who Was Plugged In (Welcome To Paradox) or
The Human Factor (2002 The Outer Limits).
Carpetsmoker
21:14, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
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Would like to add two one sub-cat for this category. One for
National Football League specific stubs and one for
College football specific stubs. To clarify, College football stubs exist at
Category:College football stubs, I want to move that under the American football stubs cat.
Juan Miguel Fangio|
►Chat
11:53, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
The result of the debate was already approved.
-- Ricardo 12:53, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
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I propose a nationality split of the category of
video game musician stubs. There are many Japanese and American video game musicians described at Wikipedia. The original video game musician stub type template should be used for nationalities other than Japanese and American. The proposals are:
Decimus Tedius Regio Zanarukando 03:26, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
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Category over 700 and creeping towards oversize, can't quite find any country reaching 60 with catscan but hopefully will pick up a few extra through hand sorting. The following all appear to be over 30 articles and atleast in my view worthwhile having:
All upmerged to Category:European sports venue stubs and the relevant building and structure category. Waacstats 22:43, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
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As above, Category over 700 and heading towards 800, catscan does not give country 60 however all the following would have atleast 30 uses:
all upmerged to Category:Figure skater stubs and the relevent wintersport-bio- / sport-bio- / -bio- stub category. Also possibly a Category:European figure skater stub with a {{ Euro-figure-skater-stub}} to mop up. Waacstats 22:43, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
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both ukraine and belarus have enough articles for a sport-bio-stub. In the case of Ukraine it would already have 2 sub cats (athletics and football) and if the above proposal is passed then an upmerged template while belarus already has 1 upmerged template (athletics). I propose the following:
Waacstats 22:43, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
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I propose a stub for the UN Project page,
--
Wfwpeurope
22:41, 26 July 2007 (UTC)wfwpeurope
The result of the debate was create upmerged templates.
I propose split of Czech-geo-stub to 13 stubs, consistent with primary administrative subdivision of the country. Four stubs were already created by Alai year ago. The rest is getting close to 700 articles and a split is needed, plus all municipalities are not yet covered and it is only a matter of time when hundreds of new articles will appear. Therefore I propose:
- Darwinek 19:24, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
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De upmerge {{
Estonia-politician-stub}}. Now 60+ articles. If anybody is game for finding a few more articles somewhere; the following countries are getting close: Croatia (58), Zimbabwe (57, not a joke), Nicaragua (56), Honduras (54), Ghana (52), El Salvador (52), Panama (50), Somalia (47), Amazingly, Eritrea has jumped from one article to 44 in around a year.
Valentinian
T /
C
22:25, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
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De upmerge {{
Laos-bio-stub}}. Now 60+ articles.
Valentinian
T /
C
21:57, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
The result of the debate was create.
de upmerge {{
Kyrgyzstan-bio-stub}} as now over 60 articles.
Waacstats
22:34, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
The result of the debate was create as revised.
{{
Atari-stub}},
Category:Atari stubs
{{ TakeTwo-stub}}, Category:Take-Two Interactive stubs
{{ Ubisoft-stub}}, Category:Ubisoft stubs
{{
SCE-stub}}, {{
SOE-stub}}, {{
Sony-videogame-stub}}, {{
SOE-game-stub}}
Category:Sony Computer Entertainment stubs
For some reason signing didn't occur to me on these pages. I would also like to point out that I do plan on populating these categories if they are created.
What I realized when I was digging through "What links here" for Taito Corporation to populate the {{tl:Taito-videogame-stub}}, is that there are a ton of stubs that have no stub templates. Many are even rated as "Stubs" There are also many games that have no game categories, and no {{ cvgproj}} on the discussion page. My thinking is that creating these categories encourages people (like me) to add templates to types of games they're interested in, and to go through and try to improve those articles (I'm partial to Category:Fighting-game-stubs). Looking at the list of top Video game publishers, I have some new proposals. More huge companies, and MS-DOS -
{{ Activision-stub}}, {{ Infocom-stub}}, Category:Activision stubs
{{ THQ-stub}}, Category:THQ stubs
{{ Disney-videogame-stub}}, Category:Disney video game stubs
{{ SCi-videogame-stub}} {{ Eidos-stub}}, Category:SCi video game stubs
{{
MSDOS-game-stub}} {{
Computer-game-stub}},
Category:MS-DOS game stubs
Category:Computer game stubs
The result of the debate was no consensus.
Poetry stubs are oversized, and there'd be 183 of these.
Alai
00:07, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
The result of the debate was create baseball season stubs.
Yet another oversized type, these look viable and more or less sensible. Alai 23:48, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
The result of the debate was create.
Yet another one. Plan here would be to split into these three subfamilies, and populate via upmerged per-genus templates. Alai 22:38, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
The result of the debate was create upmerged template as Etruria-stub.
There seem to be a
bunch of stubs related to the Etruscans and no suitable tag. Most of them are tagged as Ancient Rome stubs or something similar, which isn't accurate.
Pax:Vobiscum
14:19, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
The result of the debate was create.
A new purposed stub that will be for Kazakhstani sportspeople. I have counted around 65 Kazakhstani sportspeople articles which are stubs without counting the Kazakhstani footballers who are 35 which around 25 of them minimum are stubs. So there are around more than 80 stub articles for Kazakhstani sportspeople.--
KRBN
18:22, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
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Similar deal to the previous, parent somewhat larger-still. Alai 05:14, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
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Over 1000 articles, so should be oversized by anyone's standard.
Now, it must be said that these Regierungsbezirk have actually be abolished, but I'm of the view that we should use them anyway, as an upmerger target for per-kreis templates. (There's 24 districts, so few of those will be viable in the short run.) Alai 05:08, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
The result of the debate was create.
Just a tad oversized at 31 listings pages, I suggest strongly recommend splitting
Category:Amphibian stubs by family, and in at least one case, by genus:
I wouldn't normally propose such large types as several of the above, but this in somewhat exceptional as it's not "natural" growth, and the scope for further increases is in many cases now quite limited. (No more articles left to create!) I'm open to further splitting by genus or subfamily if people would prefer, though. Obviously there's the issue of whether a common name would be preferable in any of the above cases (personally I have little in the way of idea about that). Alai 17:46, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
{{
animal-stub}}
. ~
JohnnyMrNinja
04:08, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
The result of the debate was create.
I've un-upmerged two of the oft-deleted country songs by decade types:
as this time, they've actually grown into threshold territory. Total numbers are still modest as regards the need for a split, though I suppose it's always better to be in front than 6000 articles behind (mentioning no Polbot amphibians in particular). Alai 16:50, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
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Another Polbot run; more bird orders.
If you think that's a lot, just wait for the amphibians... Alai 06:18, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
The result of the debate was create.
Category:Quebec geography stubs is over 800; this one region would be over threshold.
Alai
05:32, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
The result of the debate was create as revised.
I propose creating a new stub type, {{
reproduction-stub}}, as a subtype of {{
medicine-stub}}, an overpopulated stub category. I found a substantial number of stubs in
Category:Medicine stubs and its parent,
Category:Health stubs, that would qualify; they are listed
here. This stub type would encompass stubs relating to human reproduction, including reproductive health, obstetrics, and perinatology, but not those relating to sociological aspects of human sexuality. --
Ginkgo100
talk
21:14, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
Per this discussion, I have created the stub category at Category:Human reproduction stubs as a subcat of Category:Health stubs, and the template at {{ human-repro-stub}}. Now I will start moving appropriate stubs into the new cat. -- Ginkgo100 talk 21:54, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
The result of the debate was create three additional genus stub types.
-- Ricardo 12:53, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
The result of the debate was create.
And believe it or not, one of the existing bird stub types is itself considerably oversized: I suggest we re-split at the family level. In three of these cases the naming issue isn't quite so clear-cut, since the article is at one name, and the category at the other. Either's fine with me. Alai 22:18, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
Here's updated per-family counts, up to the first "natural break" just below the normal threshold: the size of this really boggles the mind. (I've asked the driver of the bot that's creating these to give us a "heads up" of future 'incoming'.)
If any of these look dodgy (taxonimically, or in need of a different name), please let me know, otherwise I'll just start at the top of the list, and work my way on down... Alai 07:08, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
The result of the debate was create as revised.
Excluding
districts (which mean nothing to anyone),
cantons are the top administrative level, so ought to have geography stubs if possible. Create as stub category under
Category:Luxembourg geography stubs (all numbers from CatScan for use of {{
Luxembourg-geo-stub}} and verified manually):
Create as upmerged templates (under Category:Luxembourg geography stubs):
For the record, three cantons - Echternach (26 stubs (25 + 1)), Remich (27 stubs (26 + 1)), and Vianden (10 stubs (10 + 0)) - failed to have enough even for upmerged templates. I would expect the Esch-sur-Alzette canton to hit 60 in the next couple of months, as I will probably start on creating articles for the quarters of the city of Esch-sur-Alzette (there are 17, but only 1 exists so far).
Bastin 19:19, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
That sounds pretty much right, though probably the former would be at {{ Luxembourgcanton-geo-stub}}, as per Alai's point about the capitalisation of cantons. Grutness... wha? 01:46, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
The result of the debate was create.
Category over 700 propose split as usual by decade of birth with {{
Widereceiver-xxxx-stub}} and
Category:Widereceiver, xxxxs birth stubs and a catch all category.
Waacstats
22:45, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
The result of the debate was create upmerged templates.
At present we have {{
LakeMacquarie-geo-stub}}, {{
NewcastleNSW-geo-stub}} and {{
PortStephens-geo-stub}} directing into this category - I propose we have one template. This would allow us to incorporate other sections of the Hunter region (Cessnock, Maitland, Dungog, Gloucester etc) which are currently in the generic
Category:New South Wales geography stubs into this category.
Orderinchaos
08:36, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
{{
HunterNSW-geo-stub}}
(to match {{
CentralCoastNSW-geo-stub}}
and the deletion of the other stub templates. Please be aware that
Wikipedia:Stub#Creating_stub_types clearly states that stub types require at least 60 stubs each, and that a "stub type consists of a stub template and a dedicated stub category". Upmerged templates are not bound by that rule. Upmerged templates need only fit a reasonable purpose within a specific stub type. If these upmerged templates do not serve a useful purpose, by all means delete, but it seems they do. Better to Keep upmerged templates, and Create {{
HunterNSW-geo-stub}}
, as well as {{
IllawarraNSW-geo-stub}}
for
Category:Illawarra region geography stubs. ~
JohnnyMrNinja
03:50, 1 August 2007 (UTC){{
HunterValley-geo-stub}}
(or perhaps {{
HunterValleyNSW-geo-stub}}
if someone so prefers). ~
JohnnyMrNinja
06:01, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
How does that sound? ~ JohnnyMrNinja 08:31, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
The result of the debate was merge to CentralCoastNSW-geo-stub.
The separation between Gosford and Wyong is an artificial split of an area with a single common identity, and Wyong by current guidelines is too small to sustain its own category anyway. Even the Australian Bureau of Statistics [2] combines them into one area, and does not recognise them (2001 census) as separate urban areas. Our national broadcaster also treats them the same as do most NSW government agencies. Orderinchaos 08:26, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
The result of the debate was create as revised by Grutness.
About half of the approximately 350 articles in this cat are biographical in nature, so it would seem that a new bio sub-category (
Category:LDS bio stubs) and it's matching stub template ({{LDS-bio-stub}}) would be useful. The statement explaining the cat could state something like: "This category is for biographical stub articles relating to the
Latter Day Saint movement." --
71.35.46.20
02:15, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
The result of the debate was create US-judge-stub.
You've guessed it, oversized. I suggest:
Or ambiguous adjectives to that effect. Counts are based on permcat membership without overlap into the other; hand-sorting is likely to be able to split up the parent on these lines much sort. Alai 00:02, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
The result of the debate was create.
Not quite a taxon-based type or split, but in the same foodgroup, and also suddenly huge. These are perhaps broader than would be ideal, but I don't see much that'd be viable at the order level, which would seem like the next logical step. Doubtless soon enough, though, so upmerged templates are perhaps the way to go. Alai 22:31, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
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Among the first 20
Paleontology stubs (excluding the AL-#-1 pages), 18 are
Ammonites (the other two being a
trilobyte and an
amphibian). Since
Category:Paleontology stubs is oversized, this should help reduce it to a smaller size. In addition, this should help reduce the size of
Category:Cephalopod stubs, which is also oversized, since Ammonites were
cephalopods.
Od
Mishehu
13:49, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
The result of the debate was create.
Last year (see link below), there was no consensus as only 30-40 stubs were located. Today catscan gives
~130 stubs for
Category:Palaces. Btw, is
StubSense down?--
Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus |
talk
14:34, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
The result of the debate was create.
This stub
was created in July'06 but apparently deleted some time afterwards (I cannot find a link to deletion discussion). CatScan of
Category:Castles for <1024 bytes and <4 links yelds ~450 results (
[3]), current subcategories for stubs of British castles account only for ~390 stubs (some of which may overlap). While I applaud British Wikipedians for their devotion to stubbing every castle, other nations deserve at least a generic castle-stub.--
Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus |
talk
14:34, 7 July 2007 (UTC)