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To Kill a Mockingbird will appear on the main page on July 11, and I will be traveling that day and won't be able to participate in most of its defense. I expect many edits, primarily to the plot summary, since that's what I guess most people decide needs sprucing up. However, a lot of deliberation went into the plot as it is. Actually, the entire article was a lot of work. I need help watching the it, making sure nothing too crazy is inserted. Your assistance is appreciated. -- Moni3 ( talk) 18:01, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
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Activity at the Novels Collaboration has slowed in the last few months to a virtual standstill. The most recent collaboration was Cities in Flight, which was nominated in September 2006, and has to date received three edits, all in one day by one editor. No new candidates have been proposed since March this year, and no-one seems to have complained that the new collaboration of the month is more than a week overdue. How does the project as a whole wish to proceed with the Collaborations department? Comments from all editors are welcomed. Cheers. – Liveste ( talk • edits) 23:53, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
I was around in 2006 when the Wikipedia:Canada collaboration was abandoned after an attempt to re-energize it. Collaborations of the x are intended to highlight importance=high articles and attract interested contributors to the project. They proliferated across WP as Wikiprojects did and were tailored to meet the needs of each project. Most often I've seen them suffer due to inflexible voting system (majority rules, counting votes cast by editors who went inactive or cast 6 months prior), impractical objectives, and waning interests (inherit in volunteers). If someone wants to try to re-energize it I would suggest that a coordinator decide what its goal should be (highlight/improve importance=high articles, attract new contributors, clean up articles tagged with a maintenance issue, assist an existing editor in his/her GA-drive, etc), set specific objectives for each collaboration, be extremely flexible, and be able to make contacts for specific issues as needed (MOS check, copyediting, source search). maclean 23:30, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
FYI - an anon editor commented on the great length (50K) of the plot summary (which resulted from a successful COTM). Another user today saw fit to delete the entire plot summary from the article. If project participants can assist or comment, it would be most helpful. -- EncycloPetey ( talk) 23:03, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
I normally don't poke fun at people's comments, but hell this one is so out to lunch and it was posted by an anonymous IP, so I don't care. Check out Talk:The Girl from U.N.C.L.E. for an absolutely clueless comment regarding a statement in the related article that there were 5 "original novels" based upon said TV series. Someone challenged the statement and asked why we didn't count three episodes of the TV series as novels. Or something like that. I'm scratching my head on that... 23skidoo ( talk) 21:41, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
If an author talks about his books on a yahoo group, can I use those posts as cites? Zombie Hunter Smurf ( talk) 15:07, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
[2] [3] [4] [5] Zombie Hunter Smurf ( talk) 15:48, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
about 800,000. 400,000 or so in the PPA, 60K each in the Bearkiller and Clan territory, about 80K in Corvallis, and about 20K in Mt. Angel. The rest mostly east in the CORA, but bits and pieces all the way south of Ashland.
The Yakima League has another 200,000; there's been considerable out-migration from the Yakima Valley, because it was relatively densely populated.
Hello to the members of the members of the Wikiproject for novels. Although I am not a member I wanted to make you aware of something that I have come across. Today User:XxJoshuaxX performed a series of moves and redirects to move the page for this book so that there would be a small "o" rather than a capital "O" for the word "over". Now I know that this is grammatically correct but I was under the impression that when it comes to book titles that we followed what was seen on the book cover (as seen on the cover used in the infobox for the novel) and/or what is used most often in referring to the book. Of the dozen or so websites that I have looked at to research this they all use the capital "O" for the word over. So many edits were made that I am not sure what to do to restore the page if that is what you want done. On the other hand if the members of the project are OK with this move then so be it. I just wanted to make you aware of the situation. The pages for the film and play have been moved also. Thanks for your time and efforts for looking into this. MarnetteD | Talk 00:39, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
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I am posting this message to the 20 largest WikiProjects (by number of articles), since they would be the most likely users. Thanks, -- B. Wolterding ( talk) 12:12, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
I'd appreciate wider comment at Talk:The Emperor's Children regarding what is appropriate content regarding criticism of a book. Another editor wishes to refer to Amazon reader reviews as indicating "general reader response," and to quote something called the "Delete Key awards." Thanks, Postdlf ( talk) 15:24, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
The article about Honoré de Balzac's novel La Peau de chagrin has been at FAC for a week already and received only one actual vote. I thought maybe some folks from this 'project would like to weigh in. – Scartol • Tok 21:10, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
Christian science fiction at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Christian science fiction (1 August 2008)-- Captain-tucker ( talk) 16:56, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
Dear WikiProject Novels participants... WikiProject Media franchises needs some help from other projects which are similar. Media franchises scope deals primarily with the coordination of articles within the hundreds if not thousands of media franchises which exist. Sometimes a franchise might just need color coordination of the various templates used; it could mean creating an article for the franchise as a jump off point for the children of it; or the creation of a new templating system for media franchise articles. The project primarily focuses on those media franchises which are multimedia as not to step on the toes of this one. It would be great if some of this project's participants would come over and help us get back on solid footing. Please come and take a look at the project and see if you wish to lend a hand. Thank you. - LA ( T) 21:19, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
Has anybody else noticed that this article is terrible? It seems to be somebody's essay about the origin of the novel, rather than an actual encyclopedia article about novels. It barely discusses the nineteenth century, and doesn't discuss the twentieth century at all, instead referring us to the article on modernism. At Talk:Novel I tried to lay out in more detail what's wrong with the article, but there's so much wrong that it's hard to even get a handle on it. The article is a total mess, and probably ought to be largely rewritten from scratch. john k ( talk) 04:46, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
Do I have to join to get involved with this?
Dear WikiProject Novels/GeneralForum participants... WikiProject Media franchises is currently discussing a naming convention for franchise articles. Since this may affect one or more articles in your project, we would like to get the opinions of all related projects before implimenting any sweeping changes. Please come and help us decide. Thanks! LA ( T) @ 22:15, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
Could somebody check out if Love You to Death (novel) and Shadowland (novel) are about the same book. I stumbled over the second article because of that redirect and the content of the two stories seems to be the same as is the author. -- CecilK ( talk) 22:24, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
I keep coming across character articles from Battle Royale that appear to be nothing more than a non-notable summary of that character with no real-world context. Anyway, there are 42 character articles that I'd like to trim and merge into a character list, I'd like input from the group before I do it so I can have a consensus. -- Kraftlos ( talk) 18:44, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
Categories for Discussion has a series of discussions about whether to categorize certain specific types of fictional characters: double agents, dictators, characters with eidetic memory, et al. Advice from the Novels project would be valuable. -- ℜob C. alias ⒶⓁⒶⓇⓄⒷ 20:50, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
I wanted to propose adding a Twilight Task Force to WikiProject:Novels, as it has had an extensive amount of worldwide hype about the series, and it wuld really benefit from a concentrated force. ~ Bella Swan ? 23:27, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
Not really having much experience with this sort of thing, would 9 be a good enought number of people to start with? I'm sure as the project moves along we'll get more, but a second opinion would be nice. ~ Bella Swan ? 18:41, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
Sign below this line if you would be interested in participating in a Twilight Task Force.
I notice the {{ NovelsWikiProject}} is managing to throw Template that are tagged as unassessed. The text correctly says that assessment is not needed however someones changes (John Carter's I think) have excluded "Templates" from functionally be treated this way. Can anyone (who is an Admin) correct this, I'm no so although I could I can't :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/ (Desk) 16:39, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
See discussion on the members list. :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/ (Desk) 08:59, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
Next month we will begin the coordinator election selection process. We hope to have more involvement and input this time around! More news will be forthcoming. Thanks, everyone! María ( habla con migo) 14:15, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
Since the Disputed Novels sub-section has pretty much fallen into disuse, I'll post here that Angel Light (novel), a book by Andrew Greeleyis up for AFD here. The article is presently a one-line stub so perhaps someone familiar with the book could expand it. The nominator claims no reputable sources can be found, which I find hard to believe; I can't tell if the nom is questioning the existence of the book, which was established immediately upon entering the title into Google. 23skidoo ( talk) 16:17, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
Just to be fair here, I wasn't intending to start a "shadow" AFD debate. These comments should more properly be placed on the AFD debate page itself (if it's still open - I haven't checked). 23skidoo ( talk) 03:30, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
Didn't we use to have a page/category that listed all the articles that needed cover images? I thought we did and I was working my way through that list awhile ago, but now I can't seem to find it... ~ Bella Swan ? 01:08, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
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Ummm what is wrong with the infobox? Did I add a rogue space by accident? Or is something wrong with the infobox itself? Thanks and cheers, -talk- the_ed17 -contribs- 00:10, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
I'm so glad that nearly sixty members have responded to the project's first roll call; that's more than I was expecting! :) Soon I'll remove the list of "inactive" members and we can start fresh. Now that we are able to gauge the interest and possible productivity of the project, where should we go from here? A coordinator election has been announced for next month (October), but perhaps we should create discussion about what areas need the most work. Any opinions on the matter? María ( habla con migo) 12:17, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
With the impending release of Wikipedia 0.7, a list of selected articles for release that fall within this project's scope has been compiled (available here). Permlinks of "release versions" for each selected article need to be submitted here by 20 October. As a new task for the project, I think it would be a worthwhile goal to try to improve many of these articles before that time, specifically:
Given the size of the list, such a task may require a large collaborative effort. But I think it's a worthwhile task that the project can accomplish. Thoughts? – Liveste ( talk • edits) 03:31, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
Having just gone through these, the comment on the OR tags as being unnecessary is not really true in most of these cases as most are related to thematic, commentary type material, which does need to be verified. :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/ (Desk) 10:03, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
It's HUGE and any little bit of clean-up would help Jask99 ( talk) 00:18, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
Someone has put an AFD up for a Star Trek novel here. My concern is there are already other articles existing on other books in this series, and I'm not sure why they chose this one. It'll create a gap in the series if it's deleted. And right now the consensus appears to be shifting towards "listifying" which might end up in all other existing Trek novel articles disappearing. Possible precedent setter with potential to affect other article series such as those on Doctor Who, Simon Templar, James Bond, etc. 23skidoo ( talk) 14:37, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
Just FYI the Animatter AFD has so far failed to reach a consensus either way, so it has been relisted here. 23skidoo ( talk) 20:56, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
This months nominations are up, I suggest working either on " Humboldt's Gift", or " The Counterfeiters". Both are important novels, but Humboldt's Gift, Saul Bellow's highly praised Pulitzer Prize winning novel, is a complete stub and is in much more need of immediate work and filling out than any of the novels up for nomination, both are notable, extremely notable, and both were written by Nobel Prize winners who will both go down as being among that countries two or three best novelists of the 20th Century. Here's a link to our page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Novels/Collaboration , and I also move, among the members here and of the group, that discussion over collaborations of the month be moved to the discussion page of the group's dicussion page, not here as was redirected from the page.-- Robert Waalk ( talk) 21:56, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
For reasons I've discussed elsewhere, I've proposed the article Novel for collaboration. It's dreadful, and ought to be high priority. I imagine nobody cares, though. john k ( talk) 18:39, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
The Sword of Shannara has been nominated for to be a
featured article. Please leave comment or questions on the
review page, and help to make this featured! Cheers,
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the_ed17
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00:28, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
I realise I have found conflicting info regarding Edith Wharton's criticism of Belchamber by Howard Sturgis. For my article on Howard Sturgis, I'd found a criticism from Jstor which suggested that she'd praised it. I can't retreive the link any more, possibly because I am not on campus. Anyway, on the article for the novel I cite a recent article taken from the Times Literary Supplement, which suggests she disliked the book, as Henry James did. I have the copy of the article with me. Should I change the Howard Sturgis page? (If you can access the Jstor article, that'd be useful.) Zigzig20s ( talk) 18:23, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
I fixed both of the articles up, so feel free to change/fix anything. I hope they will be expanded in due time, though; my cursory search shows there may be enough info out there. I even found an image of James, Wharton and him from 1904 via a GI search. It may not be copyrighted, but it's worth a look. María ( habla con migo) 20:21, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
Hey, just recently an editor has suggested that WikiProject Raymond E. Feist series by merged into this project as a task force. I thought id bring it here to see if anyone has any comments in regards to this suggestion. the Feist project is very inactive and has a low member count (me being one of those members). Now i dont no how to merge the project into a task force, but i fully support the idea of merging. Salavat ( talk) 15:07, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
Can I draw peoples attention to this page
It is fed by tagging the article for expert attention with our project name in the tag. :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/ (Desk) 09:14, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
I'm sure this must be a stupid question but why is this page located where it is ( Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels/GeneralForum) rather than at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Novels, which is just a redirect here? It seems rather unnecessary to me.
If there is no good reason, I propose moving it back (assuming this is possible, what with archives and such). Mr. Absurd ( talk) 22:58, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
I've found this talk page to be messy and confusing, so I've created a proposal at User:Mr. Absurd/Novels talk. I've made a new archives box, which stretches across the whole page, and moved the other information into a {{ tmbox}} to clean it up a bit. If it's generally liked, I'll update this page... any thoughts? Mr. Absurd ( talk) 02:32, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
A peer review for The Sword of Shannara is open; it can be found here. Please leave comments or questions! Cheers, -talk- the_ed 17 -contribs- 03:20, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
Hi, recently i've been doing only reverts so i though i should do something more constructive for a change. This is why i started a major rewrite of Les_Rougon-Macquart. I structured the article and added some informations. However, as I'm not a native English speaker, i would like you to review the article and correct the grammar and style. Even though it would be nice to have another Zola fan who can edit this article, I don't think you need to know anything about him to improve the style. Anyway, I won't touch this article for some days, so you can edit without fear of conflict. Thanks in advance. Ksempac ( talk) 21:11, 22 September 2008 (UTC) P.S : I'm new here, so i hope i put this in the right section.
Last thing : Don't hesitate to be strict/"harsh" when you talk about the article, you won't offend me. When i said i was new, i meant to say i was new to this project so I wasn't sure how you did things (i actually made a small mistake by top-posting this section instead of bottom-posting). My account is only 2 years old and i didn't edit much, but that's only because I didn't have much time for that. I've been lurking and following Wikipedia's discussions for a lot more time than that so i know quite a lot about policies and guidelines ;) Ksempac ( talk) 18:08, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
Hi again, I've been busy working on this article for 3 days and now it's time to stop and ask you again what you think about this article. It's still not finished, but I don't want to write a long article without some intermediary checks by others. I'm especially concerned by the fact that many references are in French, since they are unpublished letters or prefaces that didn't make it in the English version used at Projet Gutenberg. I had to translate some of them myself and I'm not good at it (I may ask for better translation on Wikipedia:Translations). My TODO list (by order of importance) :
Any criticism/advice/copy-edit is welcome. Thanks in advance Ksempac ( talk) 11:29, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
After an AfD on multiple articles for the various books in The Clique series, I started a discussion (per suggestions in that AfD) to look at merging all of the individual novel articles, except the first, into the series articles. As one editor noted, there is precedence for it at Private (novel series), and as I noted, this could result in a single strong article for the series instead of a bunch of plot summaries. Thus far four editors have felt this merge would is appropriate, while two have disagreed (only one of whom cited any real reason, however). Looking over the discussion, I feel there is a consensus to merge, while one of the two who disagreed with the merge feels that is has not and is demanding the discussion be stopped all together after an earlier attempt to disallow it from even starting. Discussion is: Talk:The Clique series#Merges and views from the project would be appreciated. -- AnmaFinotera ( talk · contribs) 17:35, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
How about a novels by setting category? I didn't want to just create it without consultation because it would obviously involve a massive amount of categorization and therefore wouldn't work unless it had broad support. Examples would include Category:Novels set in Edinburgh, Category:Novels set in ancient Rome, Category:Novels set on fictional planets, Category:Novels set in the Middle Ages and so forth. Most of these would obviously come under larger categories like the already existing Category:Historical novels, novels set in Scotland, novels set in fictional places etc. -- Helenalex ( talk) 22:36, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
Look at this page...my review does not show up there, but it DOES show up when you click the 'edit' link.... -talk- the_ed 17 -contribs- 00:44, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
Is there an article template for novel series that I can use? Zombie Hunter Smurf ( talk) 03:29, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
No more like the first suggestion but also more like the Article Template except for series. Zombie Hunter Smurf ( talk) 04:18, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
I've just been having a look at her books and I really think we should try to tidy them up. Half of them are only Stub-Class and a few books haven't been started at all. I think we should all take a better look at this, and try to improve the articles. Ladywitchthought ( talk) 08:25, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
The article 1800s has been renamed [1800-1809]]- see this edit - so should Category:1800s novels be renamed similarly? PamD ( talk) 07:24, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
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To Kill a Mockingbird will appear on the main page on July 11, and I will be traveling that day and won't be able to participate in most of its defense. I expect many edits, primarily to the plot summary, since that's what I guess most people decide needs sprucing up. However, a lot of deliberation went into the plot as it is. Actually, the entire article was a lot of work. I need help watching the it, making sure nothing too crazy is inserted. Your assistance is appreciated. -- Moni3 ( talk) 18:01, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
As you may have heard, we at the Wikipedia 1.0 Editorial Team recently made some changes to the assessment scale, including the addition of a new level. The new description is available at WP:ASSESS.
Each WikiProject should already have a new C-Class category at Category:C-Class_articles. If your project elects not to use the new level, you can simply delete your WikiProject's C-Class category and clarify any amendments on your project's assessment/discussion pages. The bot is already finding and listing C-Class articles.
Please leave a message with us if you have any queries regarding the introduction of the revised scheme. This scheme should allow the team to start producing offline selections for your project and the wider community within the next year. Thanks for using the Wikipedia 1.0 scheme! For the 1.0 Editorial Team, §hepBot ( Disable) 21:11, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
Activity at the Novels Collaboration has slowed in the last few months to a virtual standstill. The most recent collaboration was Cities in Flight, which was nominated in September 2006, and has to date received three edits, all in one day by one editor. No new candidates have been proposed since March this year, and no-one seems to have complained that the new collaboration of the month is more than a week overdue. How does the project as a whole wish to proceed with the Collaborations department? Comments from all editors are welcomed. Cheers. – Liveste ( talk • edits) 23:53, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
I was around in 2006 when the Wikipedia:Canada collaboration was abandoned after an attempt to re-energize it. Collaborations of the x are intended to highlight importance=high articles and attract interested contributors to the project. They proliferated across WP as Wikiprojects did and were tailored to meet the needs of each project. Most often I've seen them suffer due to inflexible voting system (majority rules, counting votes cast by editors who went inactive or cast 6 months prior), impractical objectives, and waning interests (inherit in volunteers). If someone wants to try to re-energize it I would suggest that a coordinator decide what its goal should be (highlight/improve importance=high articles, attract new contributors, clean up articles tagged with a maintenance issue, assist an existing editor in his/her GA-drive, etc), set specific objectives for each collaboration, be extremely flexible, and be able to make contacts for specific issues as needed (MOS check, copyediting, source search). maclean 23:30, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
FYI - an anon editor commented on the great length (50K) of the plot summary (which resulted from a successful COTM). Another user today saw fit to delete the entire plot summary from the article. If project participants can assist or comment, it would be most helpful. -- EncycloPetey ( talk) 23:03, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
I normally don't poke fun at people's comments, but hell this one is so out to lunch and it was posted by an anonymous IP, so I don't care. Check out Talk:The Girl from U.N.C.L.E. for an absolutely clueless comment regarding a statement in the related article that there were 5 "original novels" based upon said TV series. Someone challenged the statement and asked why we didn't count three episodes of the TV series as novels. Or something like that. I'm scratching my head on that... 23skidoo ( talk) 21:41, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
If an author talks about his books on a yahoo group, can I use those posts as cites? Zombie Hunter Smurf ( talk) 15:07, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
[2] [3] [4] [5] Zombie Hunter Smurf ( talk) 15:48, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
about 800,000. 400,000 or so in the PPA, 60K each in the Bearkiller and Clan territory, about 80K in Corvallis, and about 20K in Mt. Angel. The rest mostly east in the CORA, but bits and pieces all the way south of Ashland.
The Yakima League has another 200,000; there's been considerable out-migration from the Yakima Valley, because it was relatively densely populated.
Hello to the members of the members of the Wikiproject for novels. Although I am not a member I wanted to make you aware of something that I have come across. Today User:XxJoshuaxX performed a series of moves and redirects to move the page for this book so that there would be a small "o" rather than a capital "O" for the word "over". Now I know that this is grammatically correct but I was under the impression that when it comes to book titles that we followed what was seen on the book cover (as seen on the cover used in the infobox for the novel) and/or what is used most often in referring to the book. Of the dozen or so websites that I have looked at to research this they all use the capital "O" for the word over. So many edits were made that I am not sure what to do to restore the page if that is what you want done. On the other hand if the members of the project are OK with this move then so be it. I just wanted to make you aware of the situation. The pages for the film and play have been moved also. Thanks for your time and efforts for looking into this. MarnetteD | Talk 00:39, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
There is currently a proposal for a bot that would notify WikiProjects when their articles have entered certain workflows, e.g. when they are nominated for deletion or for Good article reassessment.
The question is whether a relevant number of wikiprojects would be interested in using such a bot. You can find details of the functionality, and leave your comments, at the bot request page.
I am posting this message to the 20 largest WikiProjects (by number of articles), since they would be the most likely users. Thanks, -- B. Wolterding ( talk) 12:12, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
I'd appreciate wider comment at Talk:The Emperor's Children regarding what is appropriate content regarding criticism of a book. Another editor wishes to refer to Amazon reader reviews as indicating "general reader response," and to quote something called the "Delete Key awards." Thanks, Postdlf ( talk) 15:24, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
The article about Honoré de Balzac's novel La Peau de chagrin has been at FAC for a week already and received only one actual vote. I thought maybe some folks from this 'project would like to weigh in. – Scartol • Tok 21:10, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
Christian science fiction at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Christian science fiction (1 August 2008)-- Captain-tucker ( talk) 16:56, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
Dear WikiProject Novels participants... WikiProject Media franchises needs some help from other projects which are similar. Media franchises scope deals primarily with the coordination of articles within the hundreds if not thousands of media franchises which exist. Sometimes a franchise might just need color coordination of the various templates used; it could mean creating an article for the franchise as a jump off point for the children of it; or the creation of a new templating system for media franchise articles. The project primarily focuses on those media franchises which are multimedia as not to step on the toes of this one. It would be great if some of this project's participants would come over and help us get back on solid footing. Please come and take a look at the project and see if you wish to lend a hand. Thank you. - LA ( T) 21:19, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
Has anybody else noticed that this article is terrible? It seems to be somebody's essay about the origin of the novel, rather than an actual encyclopedia article about novels. It barely discusses the nineteenth century, and doesn't discuss the twentieth century at all, instead referring us to the article on modernism. At Talk:Novel I tried to lay out in more detail what's wrong with the article, but there's so much wrong that it's hard to even get a handle on it. The article is a total mess, and probably ought to be largely rewritten from scratch. john k ( talk) 04:46, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
Do I have to join to get involved with this?
Dear WikiProject Novels/GeneralForum participants... WikiProject Media franchises is currently discussing a naming convention for franchise articles. Since this may affect one or more articles in your project, we would like to get the opinions of all related projects before implimenting any sweeping changes. Please come and help us decide. Thanks! LA ( T) @ 22:15, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
Could somebody check out if Love You to Death (novel) and Shadowland (novel) are about the same book. I stumbled over the second article because of that redirect and the content of the two stories seems to be the same as is the author. -- CecilK ( talk) 22:24, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
I keep coming across character articles from Battle Royale that appear to be nothing more than a non-notable summary of that character with no real-world context. Anyway, there are 42 character articles that I'd like to trim and merge into a character list, I'd like input from the group before I do it so I can have a consensus. -- Kraftlos ( talk) 18:44, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
Categories for Discussion has a series of discussions about whether to categorize certain specific types of fictional characters: double agents, dictators, characters with eidetic memory, et al. Advice from the Novels project would be valuable. -- ℜob C. alias ⒶⓁⒶⓇⓄⒷ 20:50, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
I wanted to propose adding a Twilight Task Force to WikiProject:Novels, as it has had an extensive amount of worldwide hype about the series, and it wuld really benefit from a concentrated force. ~ Bella Swan ? 23:27, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
Not really having much experience with this sort of thing, would 9 be a good enought number of people to start with? I'm sure as the project moves along we'll get more, but a second opinion would be nice. ~ Bella Swan ? 18:41, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
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I notice the {{ NovelsWikiProject}} is managing to throw Template that are tagged as unassessed. The text correctly says that assessment is not needed however someones changes (John Carter's I think) have excluded "Templates" from functionally be treated this way. Can anyone (who is an Admin) correct this, I'm no so although I could I can't :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/ (Desk) 16:39, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
See discussion on the members list. :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/ (Desk) 08:59, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
Next month we will begin the coordinator election selection process. We hope to have more involvement and input this time around! More news will be forthcoming. Thanks, everyone! María ( habla con migo) 14:15, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
Since the Disputed Novels sub-section has pretty much fallen into disuse, I'll post here that Angel Light (novel), a book by Andrew Greeleyis up for AFD here. The article is presently a one-line stub so perhaps someone familiar with the book could expand it. The nominator claims no reputable sources can be found, which I find hard to believe; I can't tell if the nom is questioning the existence of the book, which was established immediately upon entering the title into Google. 23skidoo ( talk) 16:17, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
Just to be fair here, I wasn't intending to start a "shadow" AFD debate. These comments should more properly be placed on the AFD debate page itself (if it's still open - I haven't checked). 23skidoo ( talk) 03:30, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
Didn't we use to have a page/category that listed all the articles that needed cover images? I thought we did and I was working my way through that list awhile ago, but now I can't seem to find it... ~ Bella Swan ? 01:08, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
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Ummm what is wrong with the infobox? Did I add a rogue space by accident? Or is something wrong with the infobox itself? Thanks and cheers, -talk- the_ed17 -contribs- 00:10, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
I'm so glad that nearly sixty members have responded to the project's first roll call; that's more than I was expecting! :) Soon I'll remove the list of "inactive" members and we can start fresh. Now that we are able to gauge the interest and possible productivity of the project, where should we go from here? A coordinator election has been announced for next month (October), but perhaps we should create discussion about what areas need the most work. Any opinions on the matter? María ( habla con migo) 12:17, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
With the impending release of Wikipedia 0.7, a list of selected articles for release that fall within this project's scope has been compiled (available here). Permlinks of "release versions" for each selected article need to be submitted here by 20 October. As a new task for the project, I think it would be a worthwhile goal to try to improve many of these articles before that time, specifically:
Given the size of the list, such a task may require a large collaborative effort. But I think it's a worthwhile task that the project can accomplish. Thoughts? – Liveste ( talk • edits) 03:31, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
Having just gone through these, the comment on the OR tags as being unnecessary is not really true in most of these cases as most are related to thematic, commentary type material, which does need to be verified. :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/ (Desk) 10:03, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
It's HUGE and any little bit of clean-up would help Jask99 ( talk) 00:18, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
Someone has put an AFD up for a Star Trek novel here. My concern is there are already other articles existing on other books in this series, and I'm not sure why they chose this one. It'll create a gap in the series if it's deleted. And right now the consensus appears to be shifting towards "listifying" which might end up in all other existing Trek novel articles disappearing. Possible precedent setter with potential to affect other article series such as those on Doctor Who, Simon Templar, James Bond, etc. 23skidoo ( talk) 14:37, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
Just FYI the Animatter AFD has so far failed to reach a consensus either way, so it has been relisted here. 23skidoo ( talk) 20:56, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
This months nominations are up, I suggest working either on " Humboldt's Gift", or " The Counterfeiters". Both are important novels, but Humboldt's Gift, Saul Bellow's highly praised Pulitzer Prize winning novel, is a complete stub and is in much more need of immediate work and filling out than any of the novels up for nomination, both are notable, extremely notable, and both were written by Nobel Prize winners who will both go down as being among that countries two or three best novelists of the 20th Century. Here's a link to our page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Novels/Collaboration , and I also move, among the members here and of the group, that discussion over collaborations of the month be moved to the discussion page of the group's dicussion page, not here as was redirected from the page.-- Robert Waalk ( talk) 21:56, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
For reasons I've discussed elsewhere, I've proposed the article Novel for collaboration. It's dreadful, and ought to be high priority. I imagine nobody cares, though. john k ( talk) 18:39, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
The Sword of Shannara has been nominated for to be a
featured article. Please leave comment or questions on the
review page, and help to make this featured! Cheers,
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I realise I have found conflicting info regarding Edith Wharton's criticism of Belchamber by Howard Sturgis. For my article on Howard Sturgis, I'd found a criticism from Jstor which suggested that she'd praised it. I can't retreive the link any more, possibly because I am not on campus. Anyway, on the article for the novel I cite a recent article taken from the Times Literary Supplement, which suggests she disliked the book, as Henry James did. I have the copy of the article with me. Should I change the Howard Sturgis page? (If you can access the Jstor article, that'd be useful.) Zigzig20s ( talk) 18:23, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
I fixed both of the articles up, so feel free to change/fix anything. I hope they will be expanded in due time, though; my cursory search shows there may be enough info out there. I even found an image of James, Wharton and him from 1904 via a GI search. It may not be copyrighted, but it's worth a look. María ( habla con migo) 20:21, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
Hey, just recently an editor has suggested that WikiProject Raymond E. Feist series by merged into this project as a task force. I thought id bring it here to see if anyone has any comments in regards to this suggestion. the Feist project is very inactive and has a low member count (me being one of those members). Now i dont no how to merge the project into a task force, but i fully support the idea of merging. Salavat ( talk) 15:07, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
Can I draw peoples attention to this page
It is fed by tagging the article for expert attention with our project name in the tag. :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/ (Desk) 09:14, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
I'm sure this must be a stupid question but why is this page located where it is ( Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels/GeneralForum) rather than at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Novels, which is just a redirect here? It seems rather unnecessary to me.
If there is no good reason, I propose moving it back (assuming this is possible, what with archives and such). Mr. Absurd ( talk) 22:58, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
I've found this talk page to be messy and confusing, so I've created a proposal at User:Mr. Absurd/Novels talk. I've made a new archives box, which stretches across the whole page, and moved the other information into a {{ tmbox}} to clean it up a bit. If it's generally liked, I'll update this page... any thoughts? Mr. Absurd ( talk) 02:32, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
A peer review for The Sword of Shannara is open; it can be found here. Please leave comments or questions! Cheers, -talk- the_ed 17 -contribs- 03:20, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
Hi, recently i've been doing only reverts so i though i should do something more constructive for a change. This is why i started a major rewrite of Les_Rougon-Macquart. I structured the article and added some informations. However, as I'm not a native English speaker, i would like you to review the article and correct the grammar and style. Even though it would be nice to have another Zola fan who can edit this article, I don't think you need to know anything about him to improve the style. Anyway, I won't touch this article for some days, so you can edit without fear of conflict. Thanks in advance. Ksempac ( talk) 21:11, 22 September 2008 (UTC) P.S : I'm new here, so i hope i put this in the right section.
Last thing : Don't hesitate to be strict/"harsh" when you talk about the article, you won't offend me. When i said i was new, i meant to say i was new to this project so I wasn't sure how you did things (i actually made a small mistake by top-posting this section instead of bottom-posting). My account is only 2 years old and i didn't edit much, but that's only because I didn't have much time for that. I've been lurking and following Wikipedia's discussions for a lot more time than that so i know quite a lot about policies and guidelines ;) Ksempac ( talk) 18:08, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
Hi again, I've been busy working on this article for 3 days and now it's time to stop and ask you again what you think about this article. It's still not finished, but I don't want to write a long article without some intermediary checks by others. I'm especially concerned by the fact that many references are in French, since they are unpublished letters or prefaces that didn't make it in the English version used at Projet Gutenberg. I had to translate some of them myself and I'm not good at it (I may ask for better translation on Wikipedia:Translations). My TODO list (by order of importance) :
Any criticism/advice/copy-edit is welcome. Thanks in advance Ksempac ( talk) 11:29, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
After an AfD on multiple articles for the various books in The Clique series, I started a discussion (per suggestions in that AfD) to look at merging all of the individual novel articles, except the first, into the series articles. As one editor noted, there is precedence for it at Private (novel series), and as I noted, this could result in a single strong article for the series instead of a bunch of plot summaries. Thus far four editors have felt this merge would is appropriate, while two have disagreed (only one of whom cited any real reason, however). Looking over the discussion, I feel there is a consensus to merge, while one of the two who disagreed with the merge feels that is has not and is demanding the discussion be stopped all together after an earlier attempt to disallow it from even starting. Discussion is: Talk:The Clique series#Merges and views from the project would be appreciated. -- AnmaFinotera ( talk · contribs) 17:35, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
How about a novels by setting category? I didn't want to just create it without consultation because it would obviously involve a massive amount of categorization and therefore wouldn't work unless it had broad support. Examples would include Category:Novels set in Edinburgh, Category:Novels set in ancient Rome, Category:Novels set on fictional planets, Category:Novels set in the Middle Ages and so forth. Most of these would obviously come under larger categories like the already existing Category:Historical novels, novels set in Scotland, novels set in fictional places etc. -- Helenalex ( talk) 22:36, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
Look at this page...my review does not show up there, but it DOES show up when you click the 'edit' link.... -talk- the_ed 17 -contribs- 00:44, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
Is there an article template for novel series that I can use? Zombie Hunter Smurf ( talk) 03:29, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
No more like the first suggestion but also more like the Article Template except for series. Zombie Hunter Smurf ( talk) 04:18, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
I've just been having a look at her books and I really think we should try to tidy them up. Half of them are only Stub-Class and a few books haven't been started at all. I think we should all take a better look at this, and try to improve the articles. Ladywitchthought ( talk) 08:25, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
The article 1800s has been renamed [1800-1809]]- see this edit - so should Category:1800s novels be renamed similarly? PamD ( talk) 07:24, 29 September 2008 (UTC)