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TV9 Kannada (
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Unsourced article. Literary found nothing that can help to support
WP:GNG.
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TV9 Bangla (
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Only press releases. Literary found nothing that can help to support
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Unsourced article. Literary found nothing that can help to support
WP:GNG.
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News9 Plus (
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AfDed per
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/News9Live
Twinkle1990 (
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15:46, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Speedy delete
WP:G4
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May not meet
WP:NMAGAZINE and
WP:GNG. Unable to find significant coverage of the publication. Article is supported by sole subject's About us page at the time of nomination. Article was dratified and then subsequently moved back to mainspace by the article creator.
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Fails GNG. Sources are either non-independent or focused on
Ryan Grim. Could be redirected/merged but I am unsure which article a redirect should point to.
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21:48, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
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22:39, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete – Fails
WP:SIGCOV. A handful of references, most of which are articles covering
Ryan Grim's departure from The Intercept.
This Semafor reference, for example, does not even mention Drop Site News by name (
its use as a reference for the claim "The Intercept provided startup funding for Drop Site News" therefore also fails verification - has been fixed). Another reference belongs to
CounterPunch, a generally unreliable source (
WP:COUNTERPUNCH). Another reference, to
The Hill, is merely an embedded 10-minute YouTube interview with Ryan Grim. Keeping
WP:NPOSSIBLE and
WP:ARTN in mind, I should note that I'm unable to find any additional coverage in reliable sources. Almost every reliable (or somewhat-reliable...) source that even contains the text "Drop Site News" has apparently already been included in this article, as best I can tell. As it stands, Drop Site News lacks any kind of notability. A few mentions-in-passing and incredibly brief coverage do not suffice to establish notability. I see some mentions (in talk pages and edit descriptions) of the article's presumed future notability as further sources are anticipated to become available; I think, and someone correct me if I'm wrong, that this is
WP:CRYSTAL and not a valid argument for keeping the article. If it becomes notable in the future, it can be recreated. As for the idea of a redirect, I don't think it would be appropriate at this time; instead, mention of Drop Site News could easily be relegated to a few sentences in the respective articles of
Ryan Grim and
Jeremy Scahill - I'd be open to being convinced otherwise, though!
GhostOfNoMeme
07:21, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Re: "...therefore also fails verification", sorry, I mixed up the references.
Fixed.
Legoktm (
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13:48, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Ah, well no problem — thanks for fixing. :)
GhostOfNoMeme
14:01, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
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- As I noted
elsewhere, I think it's on the edge of notability; I expect outlets like Columbia Journalism Review and Semafor to do in-depth coverage soon enough. I don't object to moving back to draftspace pending said coverage, I largely moved it back into mainspace because the person who originally drafted it was indefinitely blocked for UPE.
Legoktm (
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13:48, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
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- I don't object to it being moved to draft space until notability can be established.
Traumnovelle (
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05:29, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep – notable already with the two writers associated with it — Drop Site News is being searched for here and on the internet, which is how I reached the stub... _ _ _ _ _
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- Notability is not inherited. Drop Site News does not become notable simply due to the notability of its staff or any other involved persons. See
WP:NOTINHERITED.
GhostOfNoMeme
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- Since their launch, they've already done foreign reporting
using sources within an influential terrorist organization. While that might be of questionable ethical value, depending on how one views the duties of a journalist, it definitely would seem to suggest that they're well-resourced and will continue to do notable cross-border coverage of one sort or another -- which, importantly, they have already done (in other words, we're not predicting the future here). I'd say the article should be kept, even if the outlet in question is unlikely to ever make it onto the list of neutral information sources for other articles.
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- Draftify or delete - notability is not established by reliable sources, it is
not automatically inherited from its founders, and Wikipedia
does not predict the future to say it might be established as notable later on, that's one of the functions of draftspace. The article in its current state is not really about the organization at all, it's a
WP:COATRACK for Instagram's takedown of the interview with one of the founders, which happened before this organization even existed.
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15:32, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete for now, as fails
WP:GNG. At best
WP:TOOSOON applies. Brief, trivial, or passing mention so far. Any context needed in a given article can be included in that article (e.g. "is a news website created by 2 guys"). Basically all we know from reliable, independent sources is that it exists, and was founded by 2 notable journalists. It went live less than a fortnight ago, it
has only 2 reporters and 1 editor, and it's on based on a
Substack platform, making it awfully close to, if not literally, a
self-published source. Just as we don't immediately create articles on journalists just because their articles get published in notable outlets, we should not immediately create articles for every website/blog/substack/ created by notable journalists (far too many Wiki articles on outlets and journalists, even notable ones, become trivial, promotional showcases of "on this day, X published an article. Then a few days later, X published another article. Here's the title. Ain't that neat!").
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Neal Asbury (
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After almost 14 years, the articles claims of notability are not backed up by the reliable and verifiable sources that would be required, nor was I able to find anything meaningful in a Google search that could be added. The article is an orphan and there appear to be no meaningful connections to any other article that would help flesh out a claim of notability.
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The term is indeed used in India. However, I don't think it has scope beyond
a definition. It can be easily integrated in
Fake news in India#Modes of distribution (
WP:CFORK). Although start-class, it pretty much looks like a future repository for dumping all fake news spread on WhatsApp. For serious cases, there is already
Indian WhatsApp lynchings.
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14:31, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
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Gan Favourite (
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14:31, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Redirect per
WP:NEO. The topic is better covered in
Fake news in India#Modes of distribution, and the term is not separately notable. Many of the sources here just contain uses of the term but actually cover the topic (and not the term). Maybe merge a brief mention of the definition in the NDTV article.
hinnk (
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04:03, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep: i added some of
WP:RS references. and this phrase clearly passes
WP:GNG.
Youknow? (
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12:26, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep: Agree with @
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BeLucky (
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13:11, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Redirect I agree with @
hinnk, the topic can be better covered in
Fake news in India#Modes of distribution, other than the defination, there is not much to inside the scope of this article which cannot be put under the Fake news article.
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It existed, but I couldn't find sources to add confirming it meets
WP:N.
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12:59, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
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Delete - I agree fully with what @
Boleyn: said.
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Doesn't meet
WP:ORGCRIT. Sourced with unreliable references.
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- Delete as it fails
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- Delete Sure, it existed but this is a company therefore GNG/
WP:NCORP requires at least two deep or
significant sources with
each source containing
"Independent Content" showing
in-depth information *on the company*. "Independent content", in order to count towards establishing notability, must include original and independent opinion, analysis, investigation, and fact checking that are clearly attributable to a source unaffiliated to the subject. I'm unable to identify any references that meet the criteria for establishing notability.
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Reviewed during NPP. No indication of wp:notability under GNG or Sng. Tagged by others for this since April. Misses ncorp by far. Zero references other than their own website and I couldn't find any GNG references. North8000 (
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Unsourced since 2007. Literary found nothing that passes
WP:GNG.
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Twinkle1990 (
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13:40, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete I can't find a single source (let alone a reliable one) mentioning this subject, so it definitely fails
WP:GNG.
Gödel2200 (
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13:46, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Comment Variety Magazine mentioned it being in development once, in-passing
[1]; that isn't substantial coverage. I doubt there is substantial coverage. Unsure about a redirect to
QI;
ComedyBox is a redlink.
Walsh90210 (
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19:41, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Redirect to
QI#Other_media -
My, oh my!
(Mushy Yank)
22:29, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,
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19:26, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
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