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Hey guys! Was just wondering if anyone could please help me with these two articles Kota Banks and Kinder (band). A friend and I are trying to list more artists on Wikipedia for Australian musicians who we think are quite known in the country. We are only new to Wikipedia. Both of these articles have been nominated for deletion and I would love peoples help in adding to the articles to help improve them, suggesting improvements I should make or helping on the discussion page. Other articles we have made have been approved with similar to the same information, so just a little bit confused. Thank you so much. ( Jonnycraig888 ( talk) 03:06, 6 August 2018 (UTC))
Hey Guys! Thanks for the help. I'm just trying to ask for help and wanted to learn how to improve. Not trying to sway the outcome:) ( Jonnycraig888 ( talk) 07:35, 6 August 2018 (UTC) )
Hello,
I was wondering if we can recreate the article which was deleted long back.Some user has created it and due to inefficient source, it was deleted . /info/en/?search=Abhilash_kumar . I have checked the log and remark that only administrators can create it. Kindly advise if it can be created again by normal user like me or need admin only. May I request any of the administrator to help recreating it.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Kkits23 ( talk • contribs)
Thanks
Great, thanks for quick reply. so after drafting ,how can i approach administrators? or by normal process i should send for review ? Thanks— Preceding unsigned comment added by Kkits23 ( talk • contribs)
I would like to edit a article which is in dire need of some changes, but it is Semi-protected and even though I am a member I cant edit. What can I do to solve this issue? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Magnumb22 ( talk • contribs) 15:17, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
{{request edit}}
along with your comment. That will add your comment to a queue of requested edits to be answered by experienced volunteers.
GMG
talk
15:22, 6 August 2018 (UTC)This page was just moved from Kent School to Kent School, USA so that Kent School could be made into a DAB. The other Kent School that was just added is a stub article that is a defunct school, and IMHO should have been added as a hat to the original Kent School article, or even merged with Windsor School, Germany as the new article does not even seem notable as a standalone article. Is it possible to get some help to move the Kent School, USA back to Kent School? This is a long established article in Wikipedia. Thanks. Semper Fi! FieldMarine ( talk) 15:56, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
I hope there is a short answer to this question. Is suitable to mix "short footnotes" (ones using the sfnp-like templates with a separate list of sources) and "full footnotes"? I thought these were two different styles until I encountered an example in Wikipedia:Citing sources/Example edits for different methods#Rendering for footnote full references that uses short footnote linked to a full footnote. I have encountered many articles/pages that use both short footnotes (with a separate list of references) and full footnotes. User-duck ( talk) 17:46, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
If anyone is looking for music articles to improve/tidy up, here are 2 stubs that need work:) /info/en/?search=Joy_(Australian_musician) /info/en/?search=Robinson_(singer) ( Jonnycraig888 ( talk) 14:57, 6 August 2018 (UTC))
I'm not sure the Teahouse is the best place for a question of this nature, but asking here certainly seems less heavy-duty than opening a request for clarification from the arbitration committee. I was looking at one of their remedies in passing because someone linked it in an unrelated discussion, and I noticed they used specific language to restrict the sanctioned user to one account. I've also happened to follow some of the debate about eligibility for and ramifications of a clean start, and I can't help wondering if Arbcom's language here specifically rules out a clean start. What do you all think? Airbornemihir ( talk) 20:14, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
Hello
My name is Slainthayer and I'm new to Wikipedia editing. I just want you guys to check PERMATApintar National Gifted Center and see if the contents in the article is verifiable. I have a dispute with Bahasa Melayu ( User:Yosri) supervisor regarding the issue of non-verifiability. I have cited numerous sources stating that it exist and notable but he didn't believe me and want me to go a step too far until asking me to contant the government for the school code which is not publically available just to comply with Wikipedia verifiability policy.
FYI: PERMATApintar is under its own sector in the School Division of Malaysian Education Ministry. It is also an institute of National University of Malaysia.
Is it verifiable? Any comments to improve or fix this dispute is highly appreciated.
Thank you. Slainthayer ( talk) 17:28, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
What are the steps to begin working reviewing articles? Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lu Brito ( talk • contribs) 18:10, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
Hello, how do you add international copyright tags to images on Wikipedia articles? Skyes(BYU) ( talk) 22:47, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
I have made an article about Georgi Dimitrov (composer), and apparently, I manage to compile some sources and put it here. Unfortunately, the grammar are very bad. Can someone help me fix the grammar? I combine all of the sources to get the result. If the fixing is done, I am able to put the citations. Thanks.-- Jeromi Mikhael ( talk) 10:56, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
I edit my draft as per feedback, save it and resubmit it. Next time I check it, it shows the previous version and the date it was last declined. Even hitting edit again only brings up the previous version and all my changes have been deleted. This has happened twice now. It's like Wikipedia is stuck there. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tobietta ( talk • contribs) 14:07, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
The text is my own and I've referenced the sources but not copied and pasted. I think the issue is because the page was originally "RAVENOL" but it was changed to "Ravenol" at the request of one of the moderators. I had to get a Wikipedia person to help me, and since then I've had continued problems. And now it flags up as identical to the RAVENOL page - because it's the same article with a sentence case title. There's no mention about Sphilbrick's changes or I would have contacted them. What can I do please? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tobietta ( talk • contribs) 14:40, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
Sorry Sphilbrick, the last comments I could see on the page were from AmericanAir88. Thanks for showing me the history, it makes much more sense now. I'll edit the article again. I only wanted to add something as it mentions Ravenol on the Force India page, but seeing as they're going bust maybe there's no point...
I am working on bringing Luna moth to GA status. Midway through my work I ran a copyright violation program just to check if material originally in the article had been copied or lightly paraphrased. Came up negative. I have almost tripled length of article. Ran the copyright vio again, and now 64.5% likely there is a violation! What I discovered is that a website http://animalia-life.club/other/luna-moth-scientific-illustration.html copied my Description section near-verbatim. It does identify the source as "Wiki info" which links to the Wikipedia article. Is this a common occurrence? David notMD ( talk) 10:33, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
I'd like to use the citation quote= parameter to include a quoted sentence or two from the journal studies I am citing. But I will often be citing the same study in multiple different instances in the same Wikipedia article, but each time with a different quote.
This is achievable, but it produces a unique citation on every instance, and the problem is that in the refs section of the Wikipedia article, you will then get the study listed multiple times, but with a different quote each time. So that can make the refs section bloated and confusing.
So my question is: is there a way to use the quote= parameter that provides a different quote each time I cite the same study, but without the study being listed multiple times in the refs section? Or is that not possible?
Here is an example of the citation quote= parameter being used on same study, but with different a quote on each citation):
First citation, including a quote from the study: [1]
Second citation to the same study, but with a different quote: [2]
(The reason I would like to include quotes from the study is that when you look at any good Wiki article, statements are made, and then a citation(s) is supplied next to each statement which (hopefully) supports the statement. But if the reader wants to check that the cited study does indeed back up the statement made in the article, that can be a little tedious, because the reader has to scan the whole study (which can be many pages) for the relevant bit which supports the statement. But if you provide a single sentence quote from the study, the reader can then use that to find the right section in the study.)
Thanks very much for any help with this. 91.125.89.101 ( talk) 14:50, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
References
Enteroviruses are well-known causes of acute respiratory and/or gastrointestinal infections and non-specific flu-like illness.
Patients admitted to the hospital with acute febrile illnesses were screened for enteroviral infections. Acutely infected patients were followed longitudinally, and those who developed symptoms of ME/CFS underwent oesophagogastroduodenoscopy and biopsies of the antrum to document viral persistence by immunoperoxidase staining for viral protein and viral RNA assay.
Here is the first sentence.<ref name="one">Reference 1</ref> Here is the second sentence.<ref name="one/>{{efn|According to Reference 1, "quote quote quote quote quote."<ref name="one/>}}
===Notes===
{{notelist}}
===References===
{{reflist}}
Which gives you this:
Here is the first sentence. [1] Here is the second sentence. [1] [a]
Notes
References
|quote=
parameter often. Please keep in mind that such quotes are not necessary; their function is to provide some context and clarify what exactly is being referenced, which readers can then
verify by checking the link. Since such quotes can in principle be much easier to fabricate, a much more important element of a citation is a URL to the source and, if applicable,
an archived copy using |archive-url=
and |archive-date=
. With biomedical sources like the one above, though, archival is usually not a good option, so quotes are better than nothing.With that said, I generally omit quotes in citations when the quoted text becomes far too long. However, if the quoted text is still short, such as if I am citing the source twice and only quoting two short sentences, both can be added in the order they appear in the original text by joining them with an ellipsis. For example: "This is the first quote for the first citation. [...] This is the second quote." This can continue for three or four or however many quotes, but excessively long quotes may be removed. When the choice is between either omitting the quote or duplicating the citation, it is preferable to omit the quote. As explained above, though, templates like {{
efn}}
can be used to retain the quote without duplicating the citation.Other than using {{efn}}
s like described above (a method I also endorse), there are some other alternative methods, such as using the |quote=
parameter in {{
rp}}
; however, they tend to have
accessibility concerns. Fortunately,
discussions have recently occurred about potentially solving this problem. Unfortunately, similar discussions have occurred in the past without any extension of MediaWiki to show for it. We'll see if this intractable problem is fixed soon. —
Nøkkenbuer (
talk •
contribs)
11:29, 7 August 2018 (UTC)Sometimes after I get notified of an edit to a page on my watchlist and I visit the page, I don’t receive subsequent notifications even though the page remains on my watchlist. What might cause that? Thx, Humanengr ( talk) 00:00, 5 August 2018 (UTC)
Editing my company entry for the first time and had the content flagged as being written like an advertisement. Read the guidance and made the necessary changes. Now I would like to remove the template flagging the issue, but am not clear on what code to delete?
Hello everyone, I have made a draft for an new page of an artist, Jowee Omicil. My article is in french but in the english version. How can i change the default language to english in french ? Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Saipdigital ( talk • contribs) 13:26, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
How does one go about asking for someone with the proper authority to do a mass spelling change? "lieutenat" 15 hits, all in text. 2605:E000:9149:A600:6891:3BC3:1FEC:41B4 ( talk) 05:11, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
insource:
. There is also an initiative, called the
Typo Team, whose focus is to address all typos and whose
moss project tracks and documents typos (among other issues). Thanks for your contributions! —
Nøkkenbuer (
talk •
contribs)
14:51, 7 August 2018 (UTC)I have created an article on Perry Schmidt-Leukel who is an internationally renowned scholar of religious stdies and theology. His reputation can be seen from the fact that he was invited for the Gifford Lecture in 2015 which is one of the highest distinction in the field (see Wikipedia on Gifford Lectures). I have complied with all the demands for further editing by the various reviewers and the article is still rejected - this time with the statement that it would be merely a CV which is obviously wrong. So what can I do? By the way, an entry on "Perry Schmidt-leukel" exists on the German Wikipedia for many years.
Thomas Schmitz— Preceding unsigned comment added by Thomas Schmitz 2 ( talk • contribs) 15:36, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
How do you add a new picture onto an article? Thanks. Cyclone of Foxes ( talk) 16:15, 7 August 2018 (UTC) Like how do you add a new picture into an article from scratch? Anyone? Cyclone of Foxes ( talk) 17:50, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
The picture shows 4 tropical cyclones simaultaneously in the Pacific on August 7 using satellite imagery from NASA in the 2018 Pacific hurricane season article. Cyclone of Foxes ( talk) 17:56, 7 August 2018 (UTC) FYI, the systems are Hector, Kristy, John, and Ileana from left to right Cyclone of Foxes ( talk) 18:06, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
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Thanks! I really appreaciate it! Cyclone of Foxes ( talk) 18:11, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
Hi, the logo for the Options Clearing Corporation is outdated. I work for the OCC and would like to update the page with the current logo. How do I do that?
I'm experiencing what is clear bias on a page I am trying to edit, even thought I have been following the rules on proper sourcing. How do I address this and submit a complaint? historicaljohnny ( talk) 13:58, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
GreensMeansGo, I appreciate the quick response. That is just it however, as we have attempted to provide high-quality secondary sourcing/ primary sourcing. We have followed their explicit instructions to present our editorial input, in the proper way and format, yet they continue to dance around and contradict their own instructions for one sole purpose: they don't agree with our unbiased attempt to correct some very derogatory commentary about the UDC and rather old and one-sided sources. Believe me, I don't throw around the word "bias" unless I see clear evidence of it. This is absolute bias not only what their version of truth is, but their rapid willingness to silence a dissenting viewpoint. I will try yet again, and let you know how it goes. Thank you. historicaljohnny ( talk) 14:19, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
I'm not focused on the term "patrotic" as I don't disagree its not pertinent, but I disagree its meaningless. In the context we used "patriotic" in the sentence, it was describing verbatim the UDC's stated objectives. The point is to describe the UDC's objectives, that was the simple aim here. Therefore, we did that in two ways - 1) via a legit secondary news source (Newsweek) I suppose Newsweek is a reputable secondary source and 2) a primary source, the UDC website, as you point out. So what am I doing wrong? All I'm trying to do is describe the other point of view on the subject matter, nothing more nothing less. I'm compiling some alternative secondary sources and will provide them when I get back to you. Thank you for engaging me, as the point here is to get this done fairly and correctly. historicaljohnny ( talk) 14:53, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
Ok, I'm baffled. This is one of the stated objectives of the UDC that: "it's a patriotic organization". That is subjective. That is not me interjecting "color" or my "values". And again, I can't emphasize enough, by your own example, that "there's somebody out there who likes it"... well there's always someone out there who "dislikes it". Which is my point. David noMD To clarify at your request, I don't represent a group. The UDC doesn't endorse me and I am no not apart of them (besides, they only take females). These are my contibutions and my sourcing. They are freely available in the public domain. I was invited here to share my question in this teahouse, which I believe has still not been answered. I will take the discussion elsewhere. historicaljohnny ( talk) 16:54, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
I have a question. I like to edit pages related to meteorology and I've noticed that the picture for Hector of 2018 hasn't been updated for 12 hours despite serious changes in its intensity and overall appearance. I'd like to know how to add a picture from NASA which isn't copyrighted, but I don't know how? Can anyone help? Cyclone of Foxes ( talk) 21:26, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
{{NASA}}
.
GMG
talk
21:30, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
That's not what I mean, in the 2018 Pacific hurricane season article there can only be one picture in the section that covers the storm. The old picture showed Hector at it's initial peak intensity of 130mph, I was wanted to add the picture of it's new peak intensity of 155mph. I think it is best to have the picture be the storm at or near peak intensity. The old picture wouldn't count either as it showed Hector 72 hours before peak intensity. Near peak intensity is usually 6-12 hours before/ after peak intensity. Cyclone of Foxes ( talk) 17:15, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
Okay, thanks! Revision as of Cyclone of Foxes ( talk) 21:41, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
What tools/methods are suggested for most quickly determining when a specific phrase was added/deleted from an article? Thx, Humanengr ( talk) 12:29, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
![]() | This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Archive 805 | ← | Archive 809 | Archive 810 | Archive 811 | Archive 812 | Archive 813 | → | Archive 815 |
Hey guys! Was just wondering if anyone could please help me with these two articles Kota Banks and Kinder (band). A friend and I are trying to list more artists on Wikipedia for Australian musicians who we think are quite known in the country. We are only new to Wikipedia. Both of these articles have been nominated for deletion and I would love peoples help in adding to the articles to help improve them, suggesting improvements I should make or helping on the discussion page. Other articles we have made have been approved with similar to the same information, so just a little bit confused. Thank you so much. ( Jonnycraig888 ( talk) 03:06, 6 August 2018 (UTC))
Hey Guys! Thanks for the help. I'm just trying to ask for help and wanted to learn how to improve. Not trying to sway the outcome:) ( Jonnycraig888 ( talk) 07:35, 6 August 2018 (UTC) )
Hello,
I was wondering if we can recreate the article which was deleted long back.Some user has created it and due to inefficient source, it was deleted . /info/en/?search=Abhilash_kumar . I have checked the log and remark that only administrators can create it. Kindly advise if it can be created again by normal user like me or need admin only. May I request any of the administrator to help recreating it.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Kkits23 ( talk • contribs)
Thanks
Great, thanks for quick reply. so after drafting ,how can i approach administrators? or by normal process i should send for review ? Thanks— Preceding unsigned comment added by Kkits23 ( talk • contribs)
I would like to edit a article which is in dire need of some changes, but it is Semi-protected and even though I am a member I cant edit. What can I do to solve this issue? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Magnumb22 ( talk • contribs) 15:17, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
{{request edit}}
along with your comment. That will add your comment to a queue of requested edits to be answered by experienced volunteers.
GMG
talk
15:22, 6 August 2018 (UTC)This page was just moved from Kent School to Kent School, USA so that Kent School could be made into a DAB. The other Kent School that was just added is a stub article that is a defunct school, and IMHO should have been added as a hat to the original Kent School article, or even merged with Windsor School, Germany as the new article does not even seem notable as a standalone article. Is it possible to get some help to move the Kent School, USA back to Kent School? This is a long established article in Wikipedia. Thanks. Semper Fi! FieldMarine ( talk) 15:56, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
I hope there is a short answer to this question. Is suitable to mix "short footnotes" (ones using the sfnp-like templates with a separate list of sources) and "full footnotes"? I thought these were two different styles until I encountered an example in Wikipedia:Citing sources/Example edits for different methods#Rendering for footnote full references that uses short footnote linked to a full footnote. I have encountered many articles/pages that use both short footnotes (with a separate list of references) and full footnotes. User-duck ( talk) 17:46, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
If anyone is looking for music articles to improve/tidy up, here are 2 stubs that need work:) /info/en/?search=Joy_(Australian_musician) /info/en/?search=Robinson_(singer) ( Jonnycraig888 ( talk) 14:57, 6 August 2018 (UTC))
I'm not sure the Teahouse is the best place for a question of this nature, but asking here certainly seems less heavy-duty than opening a request for clarification from the arbitration committee. I was looking at one of their remedies in passing because someone linked it in an unrelated discussion, and I noticed they used specific language to restrict the sanctioned user to one account. I've also happened to follow some of the debate about eligibility for and ramifications of a clean start, and I can't help wondering if Arbcom's language here specifically rules out a clean start. What do you all think? Airbornemihir ( talk) 20:14, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
Hello
My name is Slainthayer and I'm new to Wikipedia editing. I just want you guys to check PERMATApintar National Gifted Center and see if the contents in the article is verifiable. I have a dispute with Bahasa Melayu ( User:Yosri) supervisor regarding the issue of non-verifiability. I have cited numerous sources stating that it exist and notable but he didn't believe me and want me to go a step too far until asking me to contant the government for the school code which is not publically available just to comply with Wikipedia verifiability policy.
FYI: PERMATApintar is under its own sector in the School Division of Malaysian Education Ministry. It is also an institute of National University of Malaysia.
Is it verifiable? Any comments to improve or fix this dispute is highly appreciated.
Thank you. Slainthayer ( talk) 17:28, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
What are the steps to begin working reviewing articles? Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lu Brito ( talk • contribs) 18:10, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
Hello, how do you add international copyright tags to images on Wikipedia articles? Skyes(BYU) ( talk) 22:47, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
I have made an article about Georgi Dimitrov (composer), and apparently, I manage to compile some sources and put it here. Unfortunately, the grammar are very bad. Can someone help me fix the grammar? I combine all of the sources to get the result. If the fixing is done, I am able to put the citations. Thanks.-- Jeromi Mikhael ( talk) 10:56, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
I edit my draft as per feedback, save it and resubmit it. Next time I check it, it shows the previous version and the date it was last declined. Even hitting edit again only brings up the previous version and all my changes have been deleted. This has happened twice now. It's like Wikipedia is stuck there. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tobietta ( talk • contribs) 14:07, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
The text is my own and I've referenced the sources but not copied and pasted. I think the issue is because the page was originally "RAVENOL" but it was changed to "Ravenol" at the request of one of the moderators. I had to get a Wikipedia person to help me, and since then I've had continued problems. And now it flags up as identical to the RAVENOL page - because it's the same article with a sentence case title. There's no mention about Sphilbrick's changes or I would have contacted them. What can I do please? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tobietta ( talk • contribs) 14:40, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
Sorry Sphilbrick, the last comments I could see on the page were from AmericanAir88. Thanks for showing me the history, it makes much more sense now. I'll edit the article again. I only wanted to add something as it mentions Ravenol on the Force India page, but seeing as they're going bust maybe there's no point...
I am working on bringing Luna moth to GA status. Midway through my work I ran a copyright violation program just to check if material originally in the article had been copied or lightly paraphrased. Came up negative. I have almost tripled length of article. Ran the copyright vio again, and now 64.5% likely there is a violation! What I discovered is that a website http://animalia-life.club/other/luna-moth-scientific-illustration.html copied my Description section near-verbatim. It does identify the source as "Wiki info" which links to the Wikipedia article. Is this a common occurrence? David notMD ( talk) 10:33, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
I'd like to use the citation quote= parameter to include a quoted sentence or two from the journal studies I am citing. But I will often be citing the same study in multiple different instances in the same Wikipedia article, but each time with a different quote.
This is achievable, but it produces a unique citation on every instance, and the problem is that in the refs section of the Wikipedia article, you will then get the study listed multiple times, but with a different quote each time. So that can make the refs section bloated and confusing.
So my question is: is there a way to use the quote= parameter that provides a different quote each time I cite the same study, but without the study being listed multiple times in the refs section? Or is that not possible?
Here is an example of the citation quote= parameter being used on same study, but with different a quote on each citation):
First citation, including a quote from the study: [1]
Second citation to the same study, but with a different quote: [2]
(The reason I would like to include quotes from the study is that when you look at any good Wiki article, statements are made, and then a citation(s) is supplied next to each statement which (hopefully) supports the statement. But if the reader wants to check that the cited study does indeed back up the statement made in the article, that can be a little tedious, because the reader has to scan the whole study (which can be many pages) for the relevant bit which supports the statement. But if you provide a single sentence quote from the study, the reader can then use that to find the right section in the study.)
Thanks very much for any help with this. 91.125.89.101 ( talk) 14:50, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
References
Enteroviruses are well-known causes of acute respiratory and/or gastrointestinal infections and non-specific flu-like illness.
Patients admitted to the hospital with acute febrile illnesses were screened for enteroviral infections. Acutely infected patients were followed longitudinally, and those who developed symptoms of ME/CFS underwent oesophagogastroduodenoscopy and biopsies of the antrum to document viral persistence by immunoperoxidase staining for viral protein and viral RNA assay.
Here is the first sentence.<ref name="one">Reference 1</ref> Here is the second sentence.<ref name="one/>{{efn|According to Reference 1, "quote quote quote quote quote."<ref name="one/>}}
===Notes===
{{notelist}}
===References===
{{reflist}}
Which gives you this:
Here is the first sentence. [1] Here is the second sentence. [1] [a]
Notes
References
|quote=
parameter often. Please keep in mind that such quotes are not necessary; their function is to provide some context and clarify what exactly is being referenced, which readers can then
verify by checking the link. Since such quotes can in principle be much easier to fabricate, a much more important element of a citation is a URL to the source and, if applicable,
an archived copy using |archive-url=
and |archive-date=
. With biomedical sources like the one above, though, archival is usually not a good option, so quotes are better than nothing.With that said, I generally omit quotes in citations when the quoted text becomes far too long. However, if the quoted text is still short, such as if I am citing the source twice and only quoting two short sentences, both can be added in the order they appear in the original text by joining them with an ellipsis. For example: "This is the first quote for the first citation. [...] This is the second quote." This can continue for three or four or however many quotes, but excessively long quotes may be removed. When the choice is between either omitting the quote or duplicating the citation, it is preferable to omit the quote. As explained above, though, templates like {{
efn}}
can be used to retain the quote without duplicating the citation.Other than using {{efn}}
s like described above (a method I also endorse), there are some other alternative methods, such as using the |quote=
parameter in {{
rp}}
; however, they tend to have
accessibility concerns. Fortunately,
discussions have recently occurred about potentially solving this problem. Unfortunately, similar discussions have occurred in the past without any extension of MediaWiki to show for it. We'll see if this intractable problem is fixed soon. —
Nøkkenbuer (
talk •
contribs)
11:29, 7 August 2018 (UTC)Sometimes after I get notified of an edit to a page on my watchlist and I visit the page, I don’t receive subsequent notifications even though the page remains on my watchlist. What might cause that? Thx, Humanengr ( talk) 00:00, 5 August 2018 (UTC)
Editing my company entry for the first time and had the content flagged as being written like an advertisement. Read the guidance and made the necessary changes. Now I would like to remove the template flagging the issue, but am not clear on what code to delete?
Hello everyone, I have made a draft for an new page of an artist, Jowee Omicil. My article is in french but in the english version. How can i change the default language to english in french ? Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Saipdigital ( talk • contribs) 13:26, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
How does one go about asking for someone with the proper authority to do a mass spelling change? "lieutenat" 15 hits, all in text. 2605:E000:9149:A600:6891:3BC3:1FEC:41B4 ( talk) 05:11, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
insource:
. There is also an initiative, called the
Typo Team, whose focus is to address all typos and whose
moss project tracks and documents typos (among other issues). Thanks for your contributions! —
Nøkkenbuer (
talk •
contribs)
14:51, 7 August 2018 (UTC)I have created an article on Perry Schmidt-Leukel who is an internationally renowned scholar of religious stdies and theology. His reputation can be seen from the fact that he was invited for the Gifford Lecture in 2015 which is one of the highest distinction in the field (see Wikipedia on Gifford Lectures). I have complied with all the demands for further editing by the various reviewers and the article is still rejected - this time with the statement that it would be merely a CV which is obviously wrong. So what can I do? By the way, an entry on "Perry Schmidt-leukel" exists on the German Wikipedia for many years.
Thomas Schmitz— Preceding unsigned comment added by Thomas Schmitz 2 ( talk • contribs) 15:36, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
How do you add a new picture onto an article? Thanks. Cyclone of Foxes ( talk) 16:15, 7 August 2018 (UTC) Like how do you add a new picture into an article from scratch? Anyone? Cyclone of Foxes ( talk) 17:50, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
The picture shows 4 tropical cyclones simaultaneously in the Pacific on August 7 using satellite imagery from NASA in the 2018 Pacific hurricane season article. Cyclone of Foxes ( talk) 17:56, 7 August 2018 (UTC) FYI, the systems are Hector, Kristy, John, and Ileana from left to right Cyclone of Foxes ( talk) 18:06, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
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Thanks! I really appreaciate it! Cyclone of Foxes ( talk) 18:11, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
Hi, the logo for the Options Clearing Corporation is outdated. I work for the OCC and would like to update the page with the current logo. How do I do that?
I'm experiencing what is clear bias on a page I am trying to edit, even thought I have been following the rules on proper sourcing. How do I address this and submit a complaint? historicaljohnny ( talk) 13:58, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
GreensMeansGo, I appreciate the quick response. That is just it however, as we have attempted to provide high-quality secondary sourcing/ primary sourcing. We have followed their explicit instructions to present our editorial input, in the proper way and format, yet they continue to dance around and contradict their own instructions for one sole purpose: they don't agree with our unbiased attempt to correct some very derogatory commentary about the UDC and rather old and one-sided sources. Believe me, I don't throw around the word "bias" unless I see clear evidence of it. This is absolute bias not only what their version of truth is, but their rapid willingness to silence a dissenting viewpoint. I will try yet again, and let you know how it goes. Thank you. historicaljohnny ( talk) 14:19, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
I'm not focused on the term "patrotic" as I don't disagree its not pertinent, but I disagree its meaningless. In the context we used "patriotic" in the sentence, it was describing verbatim the UDC's stated objectives. The point is to describe the UDC's objectives, that was the simple aim here. Therefore, we did that in two ways - 1) via a legit secondary news source (Newsweek) I suppose Newsweek is a reputable secondary source and 2) a primary source, the UDC website, as you point out. So what am I doing wrong? All I'm trying to do is describe the other point of view on the subject matter, nothing more nothing less. I'm compiling some alternative secondary sources and will provide them when I get back to you. Thank you for engaging me, as the point here is to get this done fairly and correctly. historicaljohnny ( talk) 14:53, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
Ok, I'm baffled. This is one of the stated objectives of the UDC that: "it's a patriotic organization". That is subjective. That is not me interjecting "color" or my "values". And again, I can't emphasize enough, by your own example, that "there's somebody out there who likes it"... well there's always someone out there who "dislikes it". Which is my point. David noMD To clarify at your request, I don't represent a group. The UDC doesn't endorse me and I am no not apart of them (besides, they only take females). These are my contibutions and my sourcing. They are freely available in the public domain. I was invited here to share my question in this teahouse, which I believe has still not been answered. I will take the discussion elsewhere. historicaljohnny ( talk) 16:54, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
I have a question. I like to edit pages related to meteorology and I've noticed that the picture for Hector of 2018 hasn't been updated for 12 hours despite serious changes in its intensity and overall appearance. I'd like to know how to add a picture from NASA which isn't copyrighted, but I don't know how? Can anyone help? Cyclone of Foxes ( talk) 21:26, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
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That's not what I mean, in the 2018 Pacific hurricane season article there can only be one picture in the section that covers the storm. The old picture showed Hector at it's initial peak intensity of 130mph, I was wanted to add the picture of it's new peak intensity of 155mph. I think it is best to have the picture be the storm at or near peak intensity. The old picture wouldn't count either as it showed Hector 72 hours before peak intensity. Near peak intensity is usually 6-12 hours before/ after peak intensity. Cyclone of Foxes ( talk) 17:15, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
Okay, thanks! Revision as of Cyclone of Foxes ( talk) 21:41, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
What tools/methods are suggested for most quickly determining when a specific phrase was added/deleted from an article? Thx, Humanengr ( talk) 12:29, 7 August 2018 (UTC)