Dalai lama ding dong is a notorious sockpuppeter, who edits Judaism-related articles and Israeli-Arab conflict articles. 31.53.232.98 has already begun editing Judaism-related articles (his edits are against Judaism or Jewish figures) after editing an Israeli-Arab article; these are their first three edits. On the article List of massacres in Israel, he tells us to see the talk to support the change, where a now blocked sockpuppet of Dalai lama ding dong said that this should be removed. Now the sock comes along and makes this edit.
Also, all three IPs are from exactly the same place in England, which is common amongst Dalai's socks and suspected socks (see User:86.174.199.216, User:90.211.19.178, and other IP socks of his).
-- Jethro B 18:54, 14 October 2012 (UTC) Jethro B 18:54, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
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Made a couple of protections. Unfortunately, he/she is editing from BT, so no rangeblock possible. Elockid ( Talk) 15:03, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
Both Dalai Lama Ding Dong and this IP address edit from the same location, and show an interest in either Jewish-related articles or Israel-Arab conflict related articles. Here is the IP's [ second edit], for example.
Dalai lama ding dong is a notorious sockpuppeter who has been sockuppeting for months. Here is another recent SPI I opened against him (and succeeded in it).
-- Jethro B 23:26, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
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Clearly related to the previous IPs, but this is not an actionable case since these IPs are very very dynamic and the pages themselves don't appear to be frequent targets. – Steel 19:23, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
IP hopping edit warrior with Brazilian IP which is obviously the indefinitely blocked notorious editor known as Dalai lama ding dong / BilalSaleh / Guinsberg. We need to take care of this quickly because the user is causing a huge mayhem with multiple IP addresses and blatant violations of 1RR in sensitive topic areas. Marokwitz ( talk) 20:55, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
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Note, these users are probably related to Guinsberg ( talk + · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser( log) · investigate · cuwiki) and Bilalsahel ( talk + · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser( log) · investigate · cuwiki), as noted on User talk:186.212.143.98, another blocked sock, but all may or may not be actually related to DLDD. As these are IPs an not registered accounts, just noting in archive rather than moving. Dennis Brown - 2¢ © Join WER 21:02, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
Probably not connected to User:Guinsberg/ USER:BilalSaleh and any of the Brazilian IP but rather to Scotland's IP of British telecom except concentrating on Israeli/Jewish topics [1] there are quite few similarities that I rather not reveal per WP:BEANS but I will send to any CU or clerk Shrike ( talk)/ WP:RX 20:50, 1 January 2013 (UTC)
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IRISZOOM joined the argument on the talk page of 2014 Israel–Gaza conflict minutes after GGrandad was blocked, defending restoration of GGranddad's last edit (by AcidSnow) making a point very similar to GGrandad's: here and here. The user did not contribute to the talk page previously. From a look at the other user's contributions, they seem to be primarily on the Israel-Palestine subject, as I've read was Dalai lama ding dong's interest. I am not a linguist, but in general the writing styles of the IRISZOOM and GGranddad seem similar here is an example - although I did not corespond with IRISZOOM much. I cannot check the geographic location of the user, therefore I submit my speculations for your review.
I have much less basis to suspect AcidSnow, only
restoring GGranddad's last edit minutes after the user being blocked, and somewhat of an interest in the same subject - although with much more focus on Somalia. Again, the user can be cleared easily based IP location by someone who has access to this information.
WarKosign (
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The evidence here is silly. Yes, I did and continue to say that Palestinian casualties shouldn't be diminished but that doesn't mean I am the same person behind accounts who have a similiar position. -- IRISZOOM ( talk) 22:35, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
So this is what happens when I make a few edits outside Somali related ones? I get accused of being a sock? You have to come up something better than that! AcidSnow ( talk) 22:53, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
I am not too familiar with Dalai lama ding dong, because he is probably the only non-Israeli-POV prolific sockpuppet active in this area. However, I have my suspicions about this editor. First was to an AfD. Editing times are quite similar to previously blocked socks, and to Dalai lama ding dong themselves. Some similarities in topics related to Judaism and Israel/Palestine related articles etc. with somewhat similar edit summaries ( diff, diff, JohnMcintyre , Do not collect, diff). There is no non-stale sock going back a year, so I don't know if a CU is possible. Kingsindian ♝ ♚ 18:22, 12 October 2015 (UTC) Kingsindian ♝ ♚ 18:22, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
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I think the suspicions are spot on. I have some additional evidence that I would be happy to e-mail , per WP:BEANS. Bad Dryer ( talk) 18:49, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
Also here. Twice Johnmcintyre1959 accuses this editor of using "unsourced" contant on a list, [2], [3]. Fairly arcane list. Just hours later, Inediblehulk chimes in alleging the use of unsourced content [4]. E.M.Gregory ( talk) 19:40, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
Plus he's an awfully fast learner to be taking stuff to notice boards
[5] s soon after he began editing.
Looks like a duck to me
E.M.Gregory (
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19:48, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
Please note that the user has basically admitted that he is a returning user who has been banned, but believes he deserves a "second chance". See:
I am not sure if this is sock puppetry, but I did have a previous account, as theredheifer. I lost the password, and therefore started a new account. Is this what I am accused of? Should I have declared that earlier? I have not used the two accounts at the same time to post. I found that an old laptop had the password saved, and I checked the red heifer page a couple of days ago, but I can remove one of the accounts, or just stop using one of them, by deleting the password from the password vault. I am knowledgable because I read up on how to do something first. I don't think that things that are supposed to show that I have been a previous user are actually that difficult to grasp. The no OR, always provide an RS, are not complicated to understand. It annoys me that there is a lot of OR in the areas I am interested in. I would like to remain as a wikipedia editor, and I do not believe I have been disruptive. I think that certain users are not happy at being challenged for what I consider to be OR, and cannot understand that it does not take long to learn the rules here, and therefore they do not expect to be challenged by what seems to be a new user. If you follow the debates you pick it up pretty quick. The rules here are really very very simple to grasp. As to claims about quick response times, doesn't that just show that someone is interested? I have slowed down editing, as I do not know what happens next. Johnmcintyre1959 ( talk) 20:27, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
I may be banned, but for heavens sake, your use of the word hero in this sentence is pure OR. = I may get banned for this. Johnmcintyre1959 ( talk)
Ki, please check my recent editing record. I stick to RS, and I stick to the what is in the sources. I remove OR, and therefore request that you support me coming in from the cold, and being allowed to remain on wikipedia. I argue that I deserve a second chance, and that my record is not that of a sock puppet who is only here to disrupt. I am here to stick to wikipedia principles, and I do take on board constructive criticism. I am only robust with those who will not stick to the three tenets of wikipedia. I said that I am not a sock puppet, and I deserve a second chance after all the hassle that has been directed at me. Johnmcintyre1959 ( talk) 22:37, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
Unfortunately, it is too late for a CheckUser. I hope this behavioral evidence is adequate. AnotherNewAccount ( talk) 12:15, 16 June 2016 (UTC)
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Looks like a duck to me. Maureendepresident has a highly implausible number of page overlaps with Johnmcintyre1959 and Theredheifer in a narrow subject, and all three accounts use a nearly identical edit summary style. Have a look at
their summaries on
Jewish diaspora. Admin: please block this sock.
Ivanvector
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13:51, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
I received a tip that the above user is a sock of Dalai lama ding dong et al. Investigating, I found the following evidence:
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Well except user have pretty much expansive artile overlap with the master I also took one of the socks to compare. [28] The user have pretty much two distinct interests Judaism and I/P conflict. Like the master he have negative view on Judaism and Pro-Palestinian POV (if needed I bring diffs). There is also more similarities that I don't want to bring here but if you look at user contribs its pretty much clear I can send mail if needed. I ask for CU as the user usually edits from Scotland but things may have changed during the time passed maybe there is something in archives to compare(note there is some IPs in suspected category) Shrike ( talk) 10:54, 10 January 2023 (UTC)
Dalai lama ding dong is a notorious sockpuppeter, who edits Judaism-related articles and Israeli-Arab conflict articles. 31.53.232.98 has already begun editing Judaism-related articles (his edits are against Judaism or Jewish figures) after editing an Israeli-Arab article; these are their first three edits. On the article List of massacres in Israel, he tells us to see the talk to support the change, where a now blocked sockpuppet of Dalai lama ding dong said that this should be removed. Now the sock comes along and makes this edit.
Also, all three IPs are from exactly the same place in England, which is common amongst Dalai's socks and suspected socks (see User:86.174.199.216, User:90.211.19.178, and other IP socks of his).
-- Jethro B 18:54, 14 October 2012 (UTC) Jethro B 18:54, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
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Made a couple of protections. Unfortunately, he/she is editing from BT, so no rangeblock possible. Elockid ( Talk) 15:03, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
Both Dalai Lama Ding Dong and this IP address edit from the same location, and show an interest in either Jewish-related articles or Israel-Arab conflict related articles. Here is the IP's [ second edit], for example.
Dalai lama ding dong is a notorious sockpuppeter who has been sockuppeting for months. Here is another recent SPI I opened against him (and succeeded in it).
-- Jethro B 23:26, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
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Clearly related to the previous IPs, but this is not an actionable case since these IPs are very very dynamic and the pages themselves don't appear to be frequent targets. – Steel 19:23, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
IP hopping edit warrior with Brazilian IP which is obviously the indefinitely blocked notorious editor known as Dalai lama ding dong / BilalSaleh / Guinsberg. We need to take care of this quickly because the user is causing a huge mayhem with multiple IP addresses and blatant violations of 1RR in sensitive topic areas. Marokwitz ( talk) 20:55, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
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Note, these users are probably related to Guinsberg ( talk + · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser( log) · investigate · cuwiki) and Bilalsahel ( talk + · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser( log) · investigate · cuwiki), as noted on User talk:186.212.143.98, another blocked sock, but all may or may not be actually related to DLDD. As these are IPs an not registered accounts, just noting in archive rather than moving. Dennis Brown - 2¢ © Join WER 21:02, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
Probably not connected to User:Guinsberg/ USER:BilalSaleh and any of the Brazilian IP but rather to Scotland's IP of British telecom except concentrating on Israeli/Jewish topics [1] there are quite few similarities that I rather not reveal per WP:BEANS but I will send to any CU or clerk Shrike ( talk)/ WP:RX 20:50, 1 January 2013 (UTC)
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AcidSnow (
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IRISZOOM joined the argument on the talk page of 2014 Israel–Gaza conflict minutes after GGrandad was blocked, defending restoration of GGranddad's last edit (by AcidSnow) making a point very similar to GGrandad's: here and here. The user did not contribute to the talk page previously. From a look at the other user's contributions, they seem to be primarily on the Israel-Palestine subject, as I've read was Dalai lama ding dong's interest. I am not a linguist, but in general the writing styles of the IRISZOOM and GGranddad seem similar here is an example - although I did not corespond with IRISZOOM much. I cannot check the geographic location of the user, therefore I submit my speculations for your review.
I have much less basis to suspect AcidSnow, only
restoring GGranddad's last edit minutes after the user being blocked, and somewhat of an interest in the same subject - although with much more focus on Somalia. Again, the user can be cleared easily based IP location by someone who has access to this information.
WarKosign (
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21:23, 27 August 2014 (UTC)
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The evidence here is silly. Yes, I did and continue to say that Palestinian casualties shouldn't be diminished but that doesn't mean I am the same person behind accounts who have a similiar position. -- IRISZOOM ( talk) 22:35, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
So this is what happens when I make a few edits outside Somali related ones? I get accused of being a sock? You have to come up something better than that! AcidSnow ( talk) 22:53, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
I am not too familiar with Dalai lama ding dong, because he is probably the only non-Israeli-POV prolific sockpuppet active in this area. However, I have my suspicions about this editor. First was to an AfD. Editing times are quite similar to previously blocked socks, and to Dalai lama ding dong themselves. Some similarities in topics related to Judaism and Israel/Palestine related articles etc. with somewhat similar edit summaries ( diff, diff, JohnMcintyre , Do not collect, diff). There is no non-stale sock going back a year, so I don't know if a CU is possible. Kingsindian ♝ ♚ 18:22, 12 October 2015 (UTC) Kingsindian ♝ ♚ 18:22, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
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I think the suspicions are spot on. I have some additional evidence that I would be happy to e-mail , per WP:BEANS. Bad Dryer ( talk) 18:49, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
Also here. Twice Johnmcintyre1959 accuses this editor of using "unsourced" contant on a list, [2], [3]. Fairly arcane list. Just hours later, Inediblehulk chimes in alleging the use of unsourced content [4]. E.M.Gregory ( talk) 19:40, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
Plus he's an awfully fast learner to be taking stuff to notice boards
[5] s soon after he began editing.
Looks like a duck to me
E.M.Gregory (
talk)
19:48, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
Please note that the user has basically admitted that he is a returning user who has been banned, but believes he deserves a "second chance". See:
I am not sure if this is sock puppetry, but I did have a previous account, as theredheifer. I lost the password, and therefore started a new account. Is this what I am accused of? Should I have declared that earlier? I have not used the two accounts at the same time to post. I found that an old laptop had the password saved, and I checked the red heifer page a couple of days ago, but I can remove one of the accounts, or just stop using one of them, by deleting the password from the password vault. I am knowledgable because I read up on how to do something first. I don't think that things that are supposed to show that I have been a previous user are actually that difficult to grasp. The no OR, always provide an RS, are not complicated to understand. It annoys me that there is a lot of OR in the areas I am interested in. I would like to remain as a wikipedia editor, and I do not believe I have been disruptive. I think that certain users are not happy at being challenged for what I consider to be OR, and cannot understand that it does not take long to learn the rules here, and therefore they do not expect to be challenged by what seems to be a new user. If you follow the debates you pick it up pretty quick. The rules here are really very very simple to grasp. As to claims about quick response times, doesn't that just show that someone is interested? I have slowed down editing, as I do not know what happens next. Johnmcintyre1959 ( talk) 20:27, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
I may be banned, but for heavens sake, your use of the word hero in this sentence is pure OR. = I may get banned for this. Johnmcintyre1959 ( talk)
Ki, please check my recent editing record. I stick to RS, and I stick to the what is in the sources. I remove OR, and therefore request that you support me coming in from the cold, and being allowed to remain on wikipedia. I argue that I deserve a second chance, and that my record is not that of a sock puppet who is only here to disrupt. I am here to stick to wikipedia principles, and I do take on board constructive criticism. I am only robust with those who will not stick to the three tenets of wikipedia. I said that I am not a sock puppet, and I deserve a second chance after all the hassle that has been directed at me. Johnmcintyre1959 ( talk) 22:37, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
Unfortunately, it is too late for a CheckUser. I hope this behavioral evidence is adequate. AnotherNewAccount ( talk) 12:15, 16 June 2016 (UTC)
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Looks like a duck to me. Maureendepresident has a highly implausible number of page overlaps with Johnmcintyre1959 and Theredheifer in a narrow subject, and all three accounts use a nearly identical edit summary style. Have a look at
their summaries on
Jewish diaspora. Admin: please block this sock.
Ivanvector
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13:51, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
I received a tip that the above user is a sock of Dalai lama ding dong et al. Investigating, I found the following evidence:
Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.
Well except user have pretty much expansive artile overlap with the master I also took one of the socks to compare. [28] The user have pretty much two distinct interests Judaism and I/P conflict. Like the master he have negative view on Judaism and Pro-Palestinian POV (if needed I bring diffs). There is also more similarities that I don't want to bring here but if you look at user contribs its pretty much clear I can send mail if needed. I ask for CU as the user usually edits from Scotland but things may have changed during the time passed maybe there is something in archives to compare(note there is some IPs in suspected category) Shrike ( talk) 10:54, 10 January 2023 (UTC)