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Daisy (1988 film) &
Daisy (Malayalam film) -- Not actually a cut & paste issue, this is really a merge request which needs some admin assistance (I'm not sure where else to go with this). These two articles are for the same film; the former article has the correct title and has been around longer, but the latter has the better content (such as it is). What I want to do is move
Daisy (Malayalam film) to
Daisy (1988 film), as there doesn't seem to be any content worth merging, but presumably the edit history of that page will need to be retained somewhere? Thanks in advance for any assistance.
PC78 (
talk)
12:40, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
These cut-and-pastes were apparantly done to circumvene an approved set of page moves discussed
here. The articles should be moved to their former consensus titles (without diacritics) after the histories are restored:
Sherwood (band) was replaced with content about another band also called Sherwood, and has now been moved to
Sherwood (UK band). The previous content was copied to
Sherwood (US band), but most of the article's history is in the UK band article when it is about the US band. The problem is although all versions before
this edit were about the US band, but because edits were reverted by XLinkBot (as they contained a link to Youtube) edits since then have contained content about the US band, the UK band, or parts of both articles - the older versions from before the edit I linked to can probably be moved without a problem but I don't know if the more recent history can be fixed. —
Snigbrook10:41, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
Cimber Air ->
Cimber Sterling, done by moí - the humblest of appologies. The move in itself should be perfectly valid, and has already been initiated on :da, where the company is from. Company was renamed in summer 2008 after an acquisition.
Sertmann (
talk)
23:58, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
JJS was cut-and-pasted to
Jack and Jill School back in November 2008, then turned into a redirect to the other. IT was just rebuilt as a dab page, so the edits in November should be moved to the latter article, while leaving the dab page behind at JJS.
76.66.193.90 (
talk)
07:44, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
with all of these moves, I copied the article into my userspace, edited it up, then copypasted back into the main article a while ago. All the articles are very low traffic and I doubt if more than one or two edits (if any really) were made in the time that it was edited in my userspace. At least 20-30 edits were made in each article, so it would help transparency and the viewing of the history if they were merged together again. Thanks.
FoxyLoxyPounce!02:29, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
This request concerns a biographical article for a twentieth century historical figure,
Ernest de Silva (1887–1957), who was the wealthiest and most prominent philanthropist and personality of his time in his native
Sri Lanka. In 1946, de Silva was knighted and, for the final eleven years of his life, was known as
Sir Ernest de Silva, which is how the article about him was titled. A number of editors, including at least one administrator, moved the main title header from "Sir Ernest de Silva" to "Ernest de Silva", pointing out that according to Manual of Style
WP:NCNT#British peerage#5.Titles of Knighthood, as well as honorifics, military ranks, academic titles, etc. are not utilized in main title headers. However, one or more local editors continued moving the title back to "Sir Ernest de Silva", insisting in his edit summary that the subject was "famously known as SIR Ernest de Silva". Finally, on November 18, 2008, unable to make the move from "Ernest de Silva" back to "Sir Ernest de Silva", the anonymous local editor, cut and pasted the contents of "Ernest de Silva" and transferred them to the redirect, "Sir Ernest de Silva", thus creating two edit histories. Other than five concurrent clean-up edits between November 18, 2008 and December 8, 2008, all of the subsequent thirty edits have been made to the "Sir Ernest de Silva" article. The December 8 edit blanked the contents of the concurrently-existing "Ernest de Silva" article and converted it into a redirect.
"Ernest de Silva", now existing as a redirect, was created on August 25, 2005 and has a much longer edit history than "Sir Ernest de Silva", which begins its edit history on September 30, 2008/November 18, 2008. I deliberately placed the "db-histmerge" template on the "Ernest de Silva" redirect, rather than on the "Sir Ernest de Silva" article because, ultimately, in addition to merging the edit histories, the article itself needs to be moved back to "Ernest de Silva".
—Roman Spinner(talk)15:38, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
Due to these moves the original history and particularly the first version of the article Thomas Bowyer (now Sir Thomas Bowyer, 1st Baronet) has been lost apparently - perhaps somebody can restore it and correct this confusion?
The original article existed at "Timeline of non-sexual social nudity".
The article was deemed
to long and split into two pages (cut and paste) at "Timeline of non-sexual social nudity (prehistory - 1999)" and "Timeline of non-sexual social nudity (2000 - present)", with "Timeline of non-sexual social nudity" converted into a page
disambiguating the two.
A lot of information in "Timeline of non-sexual social nudity (2000 - present)" was deemed to be poorly sourced and was removed.
The reduced content was
merged (cut and paste) into "Timeline of non-sexual social nudity (prehistory - 1999)".
"Timeline of non-sexual social nudity (prehistory - 1999)" was moved to "Timeline of non-sexual social nudity (prehistory - present)".
"Timeline of non-sexual social nudity" was moved to "Timeline of non-sexual social nudity (history)" in order to preserve the original history of the page whilst allowing "Timeline of non-sexual social nudity (prehistory - present)" to be moved to "Timeline of non-sexual social nudity".
A history merge of "Timeline of non-sexual social nudity (history)" into "Timeline of non-sexual social nudity" should therefore unite all of the page's history apart from any changes made at "Timeline of non-sexual social nudity (2000 - present)" during the time it was split off. In lieu of this, the point where the information from "Timeline of non-sexual social nudity (2000 - present)" was readded to the page is mentioned in the article's edit history - with an appropriate link (
[17]).
Guest9999 (
talk)
16:08, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
Comment I believe this C&P move was a circumvention of
WP:RM to rename an article without consensus, since the articles have been sitting the way they were for years without a request to rename.
76.66.198.171 (
talk)
20:52, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
Comment In some of these history merge requests a new article was created when a station switched call signs and was not necessarily cut & paste. But the
WP:WPRS naming convention states that the the station article should be moved in such cases. I request history merges in these cases because both articles are indeed about the same exact subject, only with a different name (call sign change), and the station article history should not be split if we can help it. Thanks.
RobDe68 (
talk)
00:31, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
But also, those two pages were being edited in parallel from 20:17, 8 November 2007 to 01:40, 9 January 2008 and history-merging would interleave the edits of these parallel histories in the overlap period and thus make a mess: see
Wikipedia:Parallel histories.
Anthony Appleyard (
talk)
06:54, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
Merge
Template:Protected2 and
Template:Pp-protected together please. Protected2 was created in 2006 by myself and the history was cut away to the Pp-protected template in 2007, causing the history to be changed. I am unable to tag either template, as they are both protected. —
Moeε06:06, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
No, the current template
Template:Pp-protected was created as an alternative to what
Template:Protected2 did. Since one template could accomplish the same thing as two different templates, Protected2 was essentially merged into the new creation of Pp-protected. In 2008, when all instances of Protected2 were replaced with Pp-protected and no inclusions remained, Protected2 was redirected to Pp-protected. Protected2 and Pp-protected act as the same template. —
Moeε19:27, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
The 26 April 2007 edit of page
Davis Motorsports (the last edit which is not a redirect) has little continuity with the 29 April 2007 edit of page
JD Motorsports.
The 26 April 2007 edit of page
JD Motorsports has some continuity with the 29 April 2007 edit of
JD Motorsports.
The 29 April 2007 edit of page
JD Motorsports is a text-merge, where page
Davis Motorsports was incorporated into it but massively reworded.
At 13:46, 6 October 2007
User:D-Day moved
D.D.L. Motorsports to
Johnny Davis Motorsports "Team's name has changed according to PR.", and in its next edit changed "D.D.L Motorsports (formerly Duesenberg & Leik Motorsports)" to "Johnny Davis Motorsports" at the start of the page.
I revamped and expanded the table in my user space and then copied and pasted it into the article, so my understanding is that my user subpage has to be hist-merged to the main article.
Otto4711 (
talk)
07:56, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
Text-merge of parallel versions :: do not hist-merge, else that would shuffle together the parallel histories of the two pages and thus make a mess.
Anthony Appleyard (
talk)
17:23, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the
current main page.
Daisy (1988 film) &
Daisy (Malayalam film) -- Not actually a cut & paste issue, this is really a merge request which needs some admin assistance (I'm not sure where else to go with this). These two articles are for the same film; the former article has the correct title and has been around longer, but the latter has the better content (such as it is). What I want to do is move
Daisy (Malayalam film) to
Daisy (1988 film), as there doesn't seem to be any content worth merging, but presumably the edit history of that page will need to be retained somewhere? Thanks in advance for any assistance.
PC78 (
talk)
12:40, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
These cut-and-pastes were apparantly done to circumvene an approved set of page moves discussed
here. The articles should be moved to their former consensus titles (without diacritics) after the histories are restored:
Sherwood (band) was replaced with content about another band also called Sherwood, and has now been moved to
Sherwood (UK band). The previous content was copied to
Sherwood (US band), but most of the article's history is in the UK band article when it is about the US band. The problem is although all versions before
this edit were about the US band, but because edits were reverted by XLinkBot (as they contained a link to Youtube) edits since then have contained content about the US band, the UK band, or parts of both articles - the older versions from before the edit I linked to can probably be moved without a problem but I don't know if the more recent history can be fixed. —
Snigbrook10:41, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
Cimber Air ->
Cimber Sterling, done by moí - the humblest of appologies. The move in itself should be perfectly valid, and has already been initiated on :da, where the company is from. Company was renamed in summer 2008 after an acquisition.
Sertmann (
talk)
23:58, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
JJS was cut-and-pasted to
Jack and Jill School back in November 2008, then turned into a redirect to the other. IT was just rebuilt as a dab page, so the edits in November should be moved to the latter article, while leaving the dab page behind at JJS.
76.66.193.90 (
talk)
07:44, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
with all of these moves, I copied the article into my userspace, edited it up, then copypasted back into the main article a while ago. All the articles are very low traffic and I doubt if more than one or two edits (if any really) were made in the time that it was edited in my userspace. At least 20-30 edits were made in each article, so it would help transparency and the viewing of the history if they were merged together again. Thanks.
FoxyLoxyPounce!02:29, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
This request concerns a biographical article for a twentieth century historical figure,
Ernest de Silva (1887–1957), who was the wealthiest and most prominent philanthropist and personality of his time in his native
Sri Lanka. In 1946, de Silva was knighted and, for the final eleven years of his life, was known as
Sir Ernest de Silva, which is how the article about him was titled. A number of editors, including at least one administrator, moved the main title header from "Sir Ernest de Silva" to "Ernest de Silva", pointing out that according to Manual of Style
WP:NCNT#British peerage#5.Titles of Knighthood, as well as honorifics, military ranks, academic titles, etc. are not utilized in main title headers. However, one or more local editors continued moving the title back to "Sir Ernest de Silva", insisting in his edit summary that the subject was "famously known as SIR Ernest de Silva". Finally, on November 18, 2008, unable to make the move from "Ernest de Silva" back to "Sir Ernest de Silva", the anonymous local editor, cut and pasted the contents of "Ernest de Silva" and transferred them to the redirect, "Sir Ernest de Silva", thus creating two edit histories. Other than five concurrent clean-up edits between November 18, 2008 and December 8, 2008, all of the subsequent thirty edits have been made to the "Sir Ernest de Silva" article. The December 8 edit blanked the contents of the concurrently-existing "Ernest de Silva" article and converted it into a redirect.
"Ernest de Silva", now existing as a redirect, was created on August 25, 2005 and has a much longer edit history than "Sir Ernest de Silva", which begins its edit history on September 30, 2008/November 18, 2008. I deliberately placed the "db-histmerge" template on the "Ernest de Silva" redirect, rather than on the "Sir Ernest de Silva" article because, ultimately, in addition to merging the edit histories, the article itself needs to be moved back to "Ernest de Silva".
—Roman Spinner(talk)15:38, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
Due to these moves the original history and particularly the first version of the article Thomas Bowyer (now Sir Thomas Bowyer, 1st Baronet) has been lost apparently - perhaps somebody can restore it and correct this confusion?
The original article existed at "Timeline of non-sexual social nudity".
The article was deemed
to long and split into two pages (cut and paste) at "Timeline of non-sexual social nudity (prehistory - 1999)" and "Timeline of non-sexual social nudity (2000 - present)", with "Timeline of non-sexual social nudity" converted into a page
disambiguating the two.
A lot of information in "Timeline of non-sexual social nudity (2000 - present)" was deemed to be poorly sourced and was removed.
The reduced content was
merged (cut and paste) into "Timeline of non-sexual social nudity (prehistory - 1999)".
"Timeline of non-sexual social nudity (prehistory - 1999)" was moved to "Timeline of non-sexual social nudity (prehistory - present)".
"Timeline of non-sexual social nudity" was moved to "Timeline of non-sexual social nudity (history)" in order to preserve the original history of the page whilst allowing "Timeline of non-sexual social nudity (prehistory - present)" to be moved to "Timeline of non-sexual social nudity".
A history merge of "Timeline of non-sexual social nudity (history)" into "Timeline of non-sexual social nudity" should therefore unite all of the page's history apart from any changes made at "Timeline of non-sexual social nudity (2000 - present)" during the time it was split off. In lieu of this, the point where the information from "Timeline of non-sexual social nudity (2000 - present)" was readded to the page is mentioned in the article's edit history - with an appropriate link (
[17]).
Guest9999 (
talk)
16:08, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
Comment I believe this C&P move was a circumvention of
WP:RM to rename an article without consensus, since the articles have been sitting the way they were for years without a request to rename.
76.66.198.171 (
talk)
20:52, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
Comment In some of these history merge requests a new article was created when a station switched call signs and was not necessarily cut & paste. But the
WP:WPRS naming convention states that the the station article should be moved in such cases. I request history merges in these cases because both articles are indeed about the same exact subject, only with a different name (call sign change), and the station article history should not be split if we can help it. Thanks.
RobDe68 (
talk)
00:31, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
But also, those two pages were being edited in parallel from 20:17, 8 November 2007 to 01:40, 9 January 2008 and history-merging would interleave the edits of these parallel histories in the overlap period and thus make a mess: see
Wikipedia:Parallel histories.
Anthony Appleyard (
talk)
06:54, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
Merge
Template:Protected2 and
Template:Pp-protected together please. Protected2 was created in 2006 by myself and the history was cut away to the Pp-protected template in 2007, causing the history to be changed. I am unable to tag either template, as they are both protected. —
Moeε06:06, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
No, the current template
Template:Pp-protected was created as an alternative to what
Template:Protected2 did. Since one template could accomplish the same thing as two different templates, Protected2 was essentially merged into the new creation of Pp-protected. In 2008, when all instances of Protected2 were replaced with Pp-protected and no inclusions remained, Protected2 was redirected to Pp-protected. Protected2 and Pp-protected act as the same template. —
Moeε19:27, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
The 26 April 2007 edit of page
Davis Motorsports (the last edit which is not a redirect) has little continuity with the 29 April 2007 edit of page
JD Motorsports.
The 26 April 2007 edit of page
JD Motorsports has some continuity with the 29 April 2007 edit of
JD Motorsports.
The 29 April 2007 edit of page
JD Motorsports is a text-merge, where page
Davis Motorsports was incorporated into it but massively reworded.
At 13:46, 6 October 2007
User:D-Day moved
D.D.L. Motorsports to
Johnny Davis Motorsports "Team's name has changed according to PR.", and in its next edit changed "D.D.L Motorsports (formerly Duesenberg & Leik Motorsports)" to "Johnny Davis Motorsports" at the start of the page.
I revamped and expanded the table in my user space and then copied and pasted it into the article, so my understanding is that my user subpage has to be hist-merged to the main article.
Otto4711 (
talk)
07:56, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
Text-merge of parallel versions :: do not hist-merge, else that would shuffle together the parallel histories of the two pages and thus make a mess.
Anthony Appleyard (
talk)
17:23, 13 January 2009 (UTC)