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A gradual process starting from when it started having more people than UK in the 1840s to when it started having more GDP than UK much later to when it started having more GDP per person even later and somewhere along the line it started becoming more important in military and tech advances (some
becoming paradigm shiftsin the strongercountries and
some ignored), started getting invited to those meetings of countries that make laws of war and stuff, pushed down on the deadlocked scale to win World War 1, single-handledly caused a world depression from stock bubbling with mostly borrowed money, became the inventor of Earth's most popular contemporary music for the first time (
jazz, then
rock and roll), got the most powerful navy which was the UK's thing, saved Europe again (or at least was a big help), became the first nuclear state, the "capital of the world" and UN moved to New York and maybe postwar austerity and problems and India decolonizing and the Suez Crisis kicked UK some more while the war instead helped the US economy without much lives lost or stuff bombed compared to even England. Then after a brief 24.something years at most (even less if you only count the 4 years when it had the only nuclear bombs) USA started a slow decline that continues to this day.
Sagittarian Milky Way (
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14:24, 25 October 2021 (UTC)reply
41.114.197.198 -- The 1890s is when European government and military types realized that the United States had the economic power to play a significant role in world affairs if it wanted to. Of course, the U.S. did not directly intervene in European affairs until later, but the Spanish-American war of 1898, annexation of Hawaii, mediation in the aftermath of the Japanese-Russia war of 1905 (which won Teddy Roosevelt the Nobel Peace price), and the journey of the
Great White Fleet announced that the U.S. had arrived almost in the top tier of international powers. You can read
The Rise and Fall of the Great Powers by Paul Kennedy, which discusses such issues...
AnonMoos (
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01:10, 26 October 2021 (UTC)reply
The expression "super star" has become totally degraded due to extreme overuse, being now routinely applied to every flash-in-the-pan person who does something worthy of "going viral" (which itself denotes precisely 15 minutes of fame, after which nobody has ever heard of the person or thing involved). If that's what you mean by your question, so be it. --
Jack of Oz[pleasantries]03:51, 26 October 2021 (UTC)reply
"Super Star" implies approval, but being prominent or even pre-eminent can involve
notoriety as well as
fame. Non-Americans may recognise that the USA is the most powerful nation, but they don't necessarily like or approve of that fact, or of some aspects of the USA and its culture. {The pposter formerly known as 87.81.230.195}
90.200.65.29 (
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17:47, 26 October 2021 (UTC)reply
I believe that the last statement even applies to some Americans; much as they love their country, they also feel it has some serious issues. --
Lambiam22:09, 26 October 2021 (UTC)reply
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A gradual process starting from when it started having more people than UK in the 1840s to when it started having more GDP than UK much later to when it started having more GDP per person even later and somewhere along the line it started becoming more important in military and tech advances (some
becoming paradigm shiftsin the strongercountries and
some ignored), started getting invited to those meetings of countries that make laws of war and stuff, pushed down on the deadlocked scale to win World War 1, single-handledly caused a world depression from stock bubbling with mostly borrowed money, became the inventor of Earth's most popular contemporary music for the first time (
jazz, then
rock and roll), got the most powerful navy which was the UK's thing, saved Europe again (or at least was a big help), became the first nuclear state, the "capital of the world" and UN moved to New York and maybe postwar austerity and problems and India decolonizing and the Suez Crisis kicked UK some more while the war instead helped the US economy without much lives lost or stuff bombed compared to even England. Then after a brief 24.something years at most (even less if you only count the 4 years when it had the only nuclear bombs) USA started a slow decline that continues to this day.
Sagittarian Milky Way (
talk)
14:24, 25 October 2021 (UTC)reply
41.114.197.198 -- The 1890s is when European government and military types realized that the United States had the economic power to play a significant role in world affairs if it wanted to. Of course, the U.S. did not directly intervene in European affairs until later, but the Spanish-American war of 1898, annexation of Hawaii, mediation in the aftermath of the Japanese-Russia war of 1905 (which won Teddy Roosevelt the Nobel Peace price), and the journey of the
Great White Fleet announced that the U.S. had arrived almost in the top tier of international powers. You can read
The Rise and Fall of the Great Powers by Paul Kennedy, which discusses such issues...
AnonMoos (
talk)
01:10, 26 October 2021 (UTC)reply
The expression "super star" has become totally degraded due to extreme overuse, being now routinely applied to every flash-in-the-pan person who does something worthy of "going viral" (which itself denotes precisely 15 minutes of fame, after which nobody has ever heard of the person or thing involved). If that's what you mean by your question, so be it. --
Jack of Oz[pleasantries]03:51, 26 October 2021 (UTC)reply
"Super Star" implies approval, but being prominent or even pre-eminent can involve
notoriety as well as
fame. Non-Americans may recognise that the USA is the most powerful nation, but they don't necessarily like or approve of that fact, or of some aspects of the USA and its culture. {The pposter formerly known as 87.81.230.195}
90.200.65.29 (
talk)
17:47, 26 October 2021 (UTC)reply
I believe that the last statement even applies to some Americans; much as they love their country, they also feel it has some serious issues. --
Lambiam22:09, 26 October 2021 (UTC)reply