This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on August 13, 2023.
This is too soon, the article doesn't say anything about a 2030 edition. -- Tavix ( talk) 23:09, 13 August 2023 (UTC)
This seems a left over from several previous moves, starting as Internal Market in 2013 (see also Talk:European_single_market#Requested_move_29_June_2016). As the primary topic is no longer called " European internal market", the present redirect should target Internal market (disambiguation). Incoming links should be rewritten as either Internal Market or Internal market (Europe). fgnievinski ( talk) 21:36, 13 August 2023 (UTC)
No evidence that his name is ever spelled Ástor (with accent mark on the A). Bgsu98 (Talk) 20:05, 13 August 2023 (UTC)
I looked on Google and the different Marvel Comics websites and I found nothing mentioning a Skrullian Spymaster. I am assuming that it's creator @ Lowellian: must've mistaken this name for Skrullian Skymaster. @ BangJan1999: told me that this would be the place to have this redirect deleted. If any of you support or object to this, please state it in this suggestion. Rtkat3 ( talk) 15:53, 11 July 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: I'm unable to discern from the above whether Rtkat3 agrees with retarget over their original suggestion of deletion (in which case there would be a consensus to retarget). Others' input is also welcome.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed,
Rosguill
talk
21:54, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Bundling
Skymax, the Skrullian Spymaster with the relist.
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Tavix (
talk)
19:45, 13 August 2023 (UTC)
I used this redirect expecting a template which produced something like:
similar to {{ redirect2}}. I seem to not be alone, looking at random transclusions they all seem to use this shortcut this way. In lieu of the template I mentioned earlier, retarget to Template:For-multi. (and if this is closed as retarget I can fix the transclusions with AWB.) CLYDE TALK TO ME/ STUFF DONE (please mention me on reply) 03:50, 11 July 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed,
Rosguill
talk
21:50, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
Fix the transclusions; oppose retargeting; weak delete. I've done a fair amount of work towards cleaning up hatnote templates and created this redirect in the first place as a matter of renaming for clarity (see Wikipedia talk:Hatnote/Archive 7 § Changing hatnote template naming scheme to avoid numbers for context). Historically, we had a zillion wikitext-based templates with opaque numbers for different functionalities, and the "2" variants usually handled using custom text rather than making automatic wikilinks; {{ redirect2}} is an outlier that I haven't poked much at simply because the effort-to-utility ratio is low (it could be replaced with uses of {{ redirect-multi}}, but there are a few small behavioural inconsistencies between them that would need to be handled carefully). If we change this redirect, we should strongly consider making the same change to the other template redirects with the same pattern (see the earlier context link for a list).
I'm sympathetic to Kusma's argument for preserving old revisions, especially in terms of not retargeting to a similar template with different behaviour, but I would also oppose extraordinary efforts to perfectly preserve old revisions. I oppose retargeting because it is preferable to never use this redirect; we should always use template calls that use names that are as self-explanatory as practical. I would prefer to simply delete the redirect so that new calls are not introduced to the opaque name, and it is more self-explanatory to see a template redlink in an old revision than to see a call to a somewhat-different template that might produce something nonsensical. On the other hand, I don't see it as necessary to delete the redirect, and not deleting it does come with the advantage of naturally preserving old revisions.
I more generally support fixing the transclusions by bypassing the redirect, because that will result in calls to the current target template, {{ for-text}}, being more self-explanatory to editors. {{ Nihiltres | talk | edits}} 19:36, 6 August 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: To give a chance to respond to late opposition.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, --
Tavix (
talk)
19:43, 13 August 2023 (UTC)
Fix the transclusions firstsuggestion, or the last comment saying no one wants to take up the cleanup work? Jay 💬 15:06, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
And days later nobody (not even ClydeFranklin) has done the retarget or fixed the transclusions. * Pppery * it has begun... 01:49, 2 September 2023 (UTC)
A bunch of junk drafts were created about COVID-19, especially in the early days of the disease, and were redirected. As far as I can tell, none of the content in any of these drafts were used in the main article. If not for being redirected, these drafts would have been eligible for WP:G13 deletion by now. -- Tavix ( talk) 19:20, 13 August 2023 (UTC)
Appears to equally refer to Hittite cuneiform. 1234qwer 1234qwer 4 13:05, 6 August 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Regards,
SONIC
678
17:49, 13 August 2023 (UTC)
Uncommon misspelling, redirect not in use. Epicamused ( talk) 16:03, 13 August 2023 (UTC)
many BMCs will continue to ship with this typo until further notice, so this is a plausible redirect. Regards, SONIC 678 19:44, 13 August 2023 (UTC)
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 August 21#Jesse John Fleay
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 August 24#Predacons
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on August 13, 2023.
This is too soon, the article doesn't say anything about a 2030 edition. -- Tavix ( talk) 23:09, 13 August 2023 (UTC)
This seems a left over from several previous moves, starting as Internal Market in 2013 (see also Talk:European_single_market#Requested_move_29_June_2016). As the primary topic is no longer called " European internal market", the present redirect should target Internal market (disambiguation). Incoming links should be rewritten as either Internal Market or Internal market (Europe). fgnievinski ( talk) 21:36, 13 August 2023 (UTC)
No evidence that his name is ever spelled Ástor (with accent mark on the A). Bgsu98 (Talk) 20:05, 13 August 2023 (UTC)
I looked on Google and the different Marvel Comics websites and I found nothing mentioning a Skrullian Spymaster. I am assuming that it's creator @ Lowellian: must've mistaken this name for Skrullian Skymaster. @ BangJan1999: told me that this would be the place to have this redirect deleted. If any of you support or object to this, please state it in this suggestion. Rtkat3 ( talk) 15:53, 11 July 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: I'm unable to discern from the above whether Rtkat3 agrees with retarget over their original suggestion of deletion (in which case there would be a consensus to retarget). Others' input is also welcome.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed,
Rosguill
talk
21:54, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Bundling
Skymax, the Skrullian Spymaster with the relist.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, --
Tavix (
talk)
19:45, 13 August 2023 (UTC)
I used this redirect expecting a template which produced something like:
similar to {{ redirect2}}. I seem to not be alone, looking at random transclusions they all seem to use this shortcut this way. In lieu of the template I mentioned earlier, retarget to Template:For-multi. (and if this is closed as retarget I can fix the transclusions with AWB.) CLYDE TALK TO ME/ STUFF DONE (please mention me on reply) 03:50, 11 July 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed,
Rosguill
talk
21:50, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
Fix the transclusions; oppose retargeting; weak delete. I've done a fair amount of work towards cleaning up hatnote templates and created this redirect in the first place as a matter of renaming for clarity (see Wikipedia talk:Hatnote/Archive 7 § Changing hatnote template naming scheme to avoid numbers for context). Historically, we had a zillion wikitext-based templates with opaque numbers for different functionalities, and the "2" variants usually handled using custom text rather than making automatic wikilinks; {{ redirect2}} is an outlier that I haven't poked much at simply because the effort-to-utility ratio is low (it could be replaced with uses of {{ redirect-multi}}, but there are a few small behavioural inconsistencies between them that would need to be handled carefully). If we change this redirect, we should strongly consider making the same change to the other template redirects with the same pattern (see the earlier context link for a list).
I'm sympathetic to Kusma's argument for preserving old revisions, especially in terms of not retargeting to a similar template with different behaviour, but I would also oppose extraordinary efforts to perfectly preserve old revisions. I oppose retargeting because it is preferable to never use this redirect; we should always use template calls that use names that are as self-explanatory as practical. I would prefer to simply delete the redirect so that new calls are not introduced to the opaque name, and it is more self-explanatory to see a template redlink in an old revision than to see a call to a somewhat-different template that might produce something nonsensical. On the other hand, I don't see it as necessary to delete the redirect, and not deleting it does come with the advantage of naturally preserving old revisions.
I more generally support fixing the transclusions by bypassing the redirect, because that will result in calls to the current target template, {{ for-text}}, being more self-explanatory to editors. {{ Nihiltres | talk | edits}} 19:36, 6 August 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: To give a chance to respond to late opposition.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, --
Tavix (
talk)
19:43, 13 August 2023 (UTC)
Fix the transclusions firstsuggestion, or the last comment saying no one wants to take up the cleanup work? Jay 💬 15:06, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
And days later nobody (not even ClydeFranklin) has done the retarget or fixed the transclusions. * Pppery * it has begun... 01:49, 2 September 2023 (UTC)
A bunch of junk drafts were created about COVID-19, especially in the early days of the disease, and were redirected. As far as I can tell, none of the content in any of these drafts were used in the main article. If not for being redirected, these drafts would have been eligible for WP:G13 deletion by now. -- Tavix ( talk) 19:20, 13 August 2023 (UTC)
Appears to equally refer to Hittite cuneiform. 1234qwer 1234qwer 4 13:05, 6 August 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Regards,
SONIC
678
17:49, 13 August 2023 (UTC)
Uncommon misspelling, redirect not in use. Epicamused ( talk) 16:03, 13 August 2023 (UTC)
many BMCs will continue to ship with this typo until further notice, so this is a plausible redirect. Regards, SONIC 678 19:44, 13 August 2023 (UTC)
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 August 21#Jesse John Fleay
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 August 24#Predacons