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List of unsolved murders in the United Kingdom (before 2000)
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Nothing links here and it's an implausible redirect created by a move where the target was also moved and changed.
TheSandDoctorTalk 22:41, 9 October 2021 (UTC)reply
I have restored the 1990 target, which was moved without a valid reason for suppressing the {{R from move}} redirect. Retarget both to
List of unsolved murders in the United Kingdom per
WP:RFD#K4. The page was originally at
List of unsolved murders in the United Kingdom (before 1990) from mid-2020 until last month, when new pages were created for each decade starting with the 1970s, however "before 1990" still gets over 200 hits per day while "before 2000" now gets around 15. The article that was there is now at
List of unsolved murders in the United Kingdom (before 1970) but the master list serves as a disambiguation for the 200+ editors each day who come here from a stale link on another website to help them find the information they're looking for, instead of landing on an error page.
Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 23:18, 9 October 2021 (UTC)reply
Retarget both per Ivanvector, agreeing that the redirect should not have been suppressed under any of the
relevant criteria. --
Tamzincetacean needed (she/they) 23:33, 9 October 2021 (UTC)reply
Comment Right now, this looks like a redirect that points to a redirect that points back to the original redirect. LizRead!Talk! 23:35, 9 October 2021 (UTC)reply
Yeah, it's a bit of a mess, but it's alright for now. The double-redirect-fixing bots ignore redirects that have RfD tags. We'll clean everything up depending on the consensus here.
Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 23:45, 9 October 2021 (UTC)reply
Retarget both per Ivanvector, pointing to the list is the most helpful for readers who are clearly still using this redirect.
Thryduulf (
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Holy ejaculation
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The result of the discussion was keep.
✗plicit 00:30, 17 October 2021 (UTC)reply
This page was speedy deleted as an R3 because I thought it was a misnomer or vandalism but Uanfala appealed the deletion and a discussion ensued
my talk pages. Although Uanfala had a link to some uses of the term, it seems to be archaic to me. In considering this request, ask yourselves if "ejaculation" is ever used in a religious sense in the 21st century. I don't think we'll have any Puritans searching Wikipedia. LizRead!Talk! 22:20, 9 October 2021 (UTC)reply
Keep. While it may be a dated term, someone could still come upon it in reading older texts and look it up by that name. If anything, its rather shocking (to modern ears) nature makes people more likely to look it up. --
Tamzincetacean needed (she/they) 22:43, 9 October 2021 (UTC)reply
Keep: I was the original nominator for speedy delete, who thought much as Liz did that it was vandalism,
particularly as I found it in the context of the hat note on the destination article, but as an archaic form of reference it seems appropriate to keep in that it will help readers of older works understand what is being referred to. I will note, though it is beyond the scope of this discussion, that I would strongly disagree with restoring that hatnote; while "Holy ejaculation" does appear to have a valid connection to "Ejaculatory prayer", there is clearly no valid connection to the miraculous fertilization of the Virgin Mary.
BilledMammal (
talk) 12:35, 10 October 2021 (UTC)reply
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Terrence Deyalsingh
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The result of the discussion was delete.
Hog FarmTalk 14:48, 18 October 2021 (UTC)reply
Not mentioned at the target; deleting to allow for uninhibited search results seems like the appropriate course of action, as he is briefly mentioned in a few articles. signed, Rosguilltalk 21:41, 9 October 2021 (UTC)reply
Retarget to
2015 Trinidad and Tobago general election. Deyalsingh was elected to the constituency of St. Joseph in that election (and is mentioned in a results table) and was appointed the Minister of Health for Trinidad & Tobago 2015-2020, but we seem to have no more specific information on Wikipedia on any of those things (we don't have an article about that specific Parliament, and the current target is about the geographic location, not the constituency). See
[1] for more info.
Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 23:43, 9 October 2021 (UTC)reply
But there is also some coverage of Deyalsingh on Wikipedia at
Nicki Minaj in his capacity as health minister. Additionally, as an MP, Deyalsingh meets NPOL and thus there's a further argument that we should have his name be redlinked to encourage article creation. signed, Rosguilltalk 23:48, 9 October 2021 (UTC)reply
Delete to facilitate uninhibited Search: there are 7 mentions of "Terrence Deyalsingh".
Shhhnotsoloud (
talk) 10:49, 10 October 2021 (UTC)reply
Delete per nom and to encourage article creation.
CycloneYoristalk! 00:17, 18 October 2021 (UTC)reply
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HPSL
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The result of the discussion was delete.
Hog FarmTalk 17:29, 18 October 2021 (UTC)reply
Not mentioned at the target, delete unless a justification can be provided. signed, Rosguilltalk 21:28, 9 October 2021 (UTC)reply
It's present in HP (Hewlett Packard, now Agilent) documentation, and investigation indicated that the format was the same.
MarkMLl (
talk) 10:42, 10 October 2021 (UTC)reply
Delete as ambiguous and likely to lead to confusion: there are 2 other separate mentions.
Shhhnotsoloud (
talk) 10:51, 10 October 2021 (UTC)reply
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KeepMegara is a place in Greece, and
Μέγαρα is its proper name in Greek. That's allowed under RFOREIGN.
Elli (
talk |
contribs) 00:57, 9 October 2021 (UTC)reply
Keep per above. The statement at the 7 October RfD that We don't normally have redirects from foreign language terms in non-Roman scripts is entirely incorrect.
61.239.39.90 (
talk) 02:06, 9 October 2021 (UTC)reply
Keep per
WP:RFOREIGN, Elli and the 61 IP above me. This is an appropriate redirect, and to add on to 61...'s point, we have plenty of non-English redirects, including a bunch in non-Latin scripts. Regards,
SONIC678 03:16, 9 October 2021 (UTC)reply
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This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on October 9, 2021.
List of unsolved murders in the United Kingdom (before 2000)
The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's
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Nothing links here and it's an implausible redirect created by a move where the target was also moved and changed.
TheSandDoctorTalk 22:41, 9 October 2021 (UTC)reply
I have restored the 1990 target, which was moved without a valid reason for suppressing the {{R from move}} redirect. Retarget both to
List of unsolved murders in the United Kingdom per
WP:RFD#K4. The page was originally at
List of unsolved murders in the United Kingdom (before 1990) from mid-2020 until last month, when new pages were created for each decade starting with the 1970s, however "before 1990" still gets over 200 hits per day while "before 2000" now gets around 15. The article that was there is now at
List of unsolved murders in the United Kingdom (before 1970) but the master list serves as a disambiguation for the 200+ editors each day who come here from a stale link on another website to help them find the information they're looking for, instead of landing on an error page.
Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 23:18, 9 October 2021 (UTC)reply
Retarget both per Ivanvector, agreeing that the redirect should not have been suppressed under any of the
relevant criteria. --
Tamzincetacean needed (she/they) 23:33, 9 October 2021 (UTC)reply
Comment Right now, this looks like a redirect that points to a redirect that points back to the original redirect. LizRead!Talk! 23:35, 9 October 2021 (UTC)reply
Yeah, it's a bit of a mess, but it's alright for now. The double-redirect-fixing bots ignore redirects that have RfD tags. We'll clean everything up depending on the consensus here.
Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 23:45, 9 October 2021 (UTC)reply
Retarget both per Ivanvector, pointing to the list is the most helpful for readers who are clearly still using this redirect.
Thryduulf (
talk) 23:55, 9 October 2021 (UTC)reply
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Holy ejaculation
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The result of the discussion was keep.
✗plicit 00:30, 17 October 2021 (UTC)reply
This page was speedy deleted as an R3 because I thought it was a misnomer or vandalism but Uanfala appealed the deletion and a discussion ensued
my talk pages. Although Uanfala had a link to some uses of the term, it seems to be archaic to me. In considering this request, ask yourselves if "ejaculation" is ever used in a religious sense in the 21st century. I don't think we'll have any Puritans searching Wikipedia. LizRead!Talk! 22:20, 9 October 2021 (UTC)reply
Keep. While it may be a dated term, someone could still come upon it in reading older texts and look it up by that name. If anything, its rather shocking (to modern ears) nature makes people more likely to look it up. --
Tamzincetacean needed (she/they) 22:43, 9 October 2021 (UTC)reply
Keep: I was the original nominator for speedy delete, who thought much as Liz did that it was vandalism,
particularly as I found it in the context of the hat note on the destination article, but as an archaic form of reference it seems appropriate to keep in that it will help readers of older works understand what is being referred to. I will note, though it is beyond the scope of this discussion, that I would strongly disagree with restoring that hatnote; while "Holy ejaculation" does appear to have a valid connection to "Ejaculatory prayer", there is clearly no valid connection to the miraculous fertilization of the Virgin Mary.
BilledMammal (
talk) 12:35, 10 October 2021 (UTC)reply
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Terrence Deyalsingh
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The result of the discussion was delete.
Hog FarmTalk 14:48, 18 October 2021 (UTC)reply
Not mentioned at the target; deleting to allow for uninhibited search results seems like the appropriate course of action, as he is briefly mentioned in a few articles. signed, Rosguilltalk 21:41, 9 October 2021 (UTC)reply
Retarget to
2015 Trinidad and Tobago general election. Deyalsingh was elected to the constituency of St. Joseph in that election (and is mentioned in a results table) and was appointed the Minister of Health for Trinidad & Tobago 2015-2020, but we seem to have no more specific information on Wikipedia on any of those things (we don't have an article about that specific Parliament, and the current target is about the geographic location, not the constituency). See
[1] for more info.
Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 23:43, 9 October 2021 (UTC)reply
But there is also some coverage of Deyalsingh on Wikipedia at
Nicki Minaj in his capacity as health minister. Additionally, as an MP, Deyalsingh meets NPOL and thus there's a further argument that we should have his name be redlinked to encourage article creation. signed, Rosguilltalk 23:48, 9 October 2021 (UTC)reply
Delete to facilitate uninhibited Search: there are 7 mentions of "Terrence Deyalsingh".
Shhhnotsoloud (
talk) 10:49, 10 October 2021 (UTC)reply
Delete per nom and to encourage article creation.
CycloneYoristalk! 00:17, 18 October 2021 (UTC)reply
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HPSL
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The result of the discussion was delete.
Hog FarmTalk 17:29, 18 October 2021 (UTC)reply
Not mentioned at the target, delete unless a justification can be provided. signed, Rosguilltalk 21:28, 9 October 2021 (UTC)reply
It's present in HP (Hewlett Packard, now Agilent) documentation, and investigation indicated that the format was the same.
MarkMLl (
talk) 10:42, 10 October 2021 (UTC)reply
Delete as ambiguous and likely to lead to confusion: there are 2 other separate mentions.
Shhhnotsoloud (
talk) 10:51, 10 October 2021 (UTC)reply
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KeepMegara is a place in Greece, and
Μέγαρα is its proper name in Greek. That's allowed under RFOREIGN.
Elli (
talk |
contribs) 00:57, 9 October 2021 (UTC)reply
Keep per above. The statement at the 7 October RfD that We don't normally have redirects from foreign language terms in non-Roman scripts is entirely incorrect.
61.239.39.90 (
talk) 02:06, 9 October 2021 (UTC)reply
Keep per
WP:RFOREIGN, Elli and the 61 IP above me. This is an appropriate redirect, and to add on to 61...'s point, we have plenty of non-English redirects, including a bunch in non-Latin scripts. Regards,
SONIC678 03:16, 9 October 2021 (UTC)reply
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