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TRAINSTATION

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The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguill talk 03:43, 12 February 2020 (UTC) reply

Useless and potentially confusing, as it points to a movie instead of the obvious primary topic Train station. Nothing links to this redirect, so there is nothing to lose. The search engine will take care of redirecting readers typing "trainstation" without a space. There may be a case to create a redirect from the Trainstation misspelling to the Train station main article. — JFG talk 23:25, 4 February 2020 (UTC) reply

  • Delete. Not mentioned in, and no particular affinity with, the current target. The film title was capitalised in the poster (well, duh), but as two words.
The fact that WP has lived so long without Trainstation suggests that there's no crying demand. It would be harmless, though.
Train station (disambiguation) created (I found a third full-title match). Narky Blert ( talk) 09:28, 5 February 2020 (UTC) reply
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2011 Asian Men's Hockey Champions Trophy 2011

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The result of the discussion was delete. Wug· a·po·des 19:46, 12 February 2020 (UTC) reply

Redundant title that makes for an unlikely search term + no incoming links = this redirect should be deleted. signed, Rosguill talk 22:10, 4 February 2020 (UTC) reply

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Typhoon Vernon(1993)

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The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguill talk 22:11, 11 February 2020 (UTC) reply

Improperly written typhoon related redirects with a spacing error before the disambiguator. CycloneYoris talk! 20:15, 4 February 2020 (UTC) reply

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Hwa Mui

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The result of the discussion was speedy keep. withdrawing discussion per the provided justification. signed, Rosguill talk 00:14, 6 February 2020 (UTC) reply

Not mentioned at the target or in its lone source. Delete unless a justification can be provided. signed, Rosguill talk 19:03, 4 February 2020 (UTC) reply

Her dissertation is under the name Hwa Mui. I guess it's her native name. Ali Pirhayati ( talk) 23:53, 4 February 2020 (UTC) reply
How do we know it's the same person? Glades12 ( talk) 10:24, 5 February 2020 (UTC) reply
"May Sim received her Ph.D. from Vanderbilt University. Her dissertation, Aristotle’s Understanding of Form and Universals[..."] (cited in the article)
Aristotle's Understanding of Form and Universals | Hwa Mui | Dissertation, Vanderbilt University (1989)]. Not proof, but very strong evidence. Narky Blert ( talk) 11:48, 5 February 2020 (UTC) reply
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Interstate 13 in California

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The result of the discussion was keep. Consensus was very clear that this redirect is useful. I will add some possible rcats post-close, which can be adjusted boldly as needed. (non-admin closure) Doug Mehus T· C 20:18, 11 February 2020 (UTC) reply
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Interstate 13 was only mentioned on the cahighways website, which is not a reliable source. If this is deleted, the mention of I-13 should be removed from the Interstate 605 article, as well. Morriswa (Charlotte Allison) ( talk) 12:25, 28 January 2020 (UTC) reply

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  • Keep per Hog_Farm. See also WP:V (read it closely): facts need to be verifiable; they don't need to be verified yet unless potentially controversial, and this isn't likely to be controversial to anyone (especially given the level of obsessive geekery brought to bear by the wikiproject devoted to US highways).  —  SMcCandlish ¢ 😼  22:55, 4 February 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Keep No evidence source is even unreliable. Plus what everyone else says. Smartyllama ( talk) 00:09, 7 February 2020 (UTC) reply
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Abu Ivanka Al Amriki

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The result of the discussion was delete. Wug· a·po·des 19:46, 12 February 2020 (UTC) reply

This originally pointed to Donald Trump, which does not mention the nickname at all. I tried pointing it to List of nicknames of presidents of the United States#Donald Trump and providing citations, but was informed on the talk page that it doesn't appear to meet the standard for inclusion there. I would thus suggest deletion, unless someone can find enough usage in RS to justify inclusion at that target. signed, Rosguill talk 21:36, 27 January 2020 (UTC) reply

Shhhnotsoloud I agree, but it seems that the local consensus at that page is demanding a higher bar of usage before inclusion (which is understandable given the subject matter). signed, Rosguill talk 21:23, 28 January 2020 (UTC) reply
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Ilmarin

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Vala (Middle-earth)#Manwë. (non-admin closure) Doug Mehus T· C 20:04, 11 February 2020 (UTC) reply

Not mentioned at target page. Is mentioned briefly as the name of an unrelated character in a video game plot summary, and briefly at Vala (Middle-earth) in the sentence "He lived atop Mount Taniquetil, the highest mountain of the world, in the halls of Ilmarin." Neither of those references would be particularly useful to the reader, so delete. Hog Farm ( talk) 23:00, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply

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Fakhri 'Abd al-Hadi

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The result of the discussion was speedy delete. Per WP:G7 per the redirect creator's participation here. signed, Rosguill talk 19:59, 4 February 2020 (UTC) reply

Not mentioned at the target. Based on a Scholar search, it seems that Fakhri was a relative of Awni's and was likely notable. But, if they're not mentioned at the target, I don't think this redirect is helping anyone and would suggest deletion. signed, Rosguill talk 18:28, 4 February 2020 (UTC) reply

  • Delete You are right, the two are not the same person. I found similarities between them when I created the redirect, and there is not a lot of information about Fakhri available on the Internet, but according to this article (in Arabic), Fakhri died in the year 1943, while Awni's article states he died in 1970. Thus they are not the same person. Cilidus ( talk) 19:57, 4 February 2020 (UTC) reply
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Tiger Global Management

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Chase Coleman III. signed, Rosguill talk 22:11, 11 February 2020 (UTC) reply

Recommend deletion as Tiger Management was founded in 1980 by Julian Robertson and Tiger Global Management is a separate entity founded in 2001 by Chase Coleman. Please note I work for Rubenstein and am addressing this issue on behalf of Tiger Global Management.

A recent Bloomberg article notes, "Coleman is one of at least 10 money managers who went on to run billions of dollars after cutting their teeth at Robertson’s Tiger Management, and at least eight managers have emerged from Coleman’s Tiger Global... Robertson’s Tiger, which was founded in 1980..." [1]

A recent Wall Street Journal article notes, "Charles "Chase" Coleman started Tiger Global in 2001 when he was still working for hedge-fund pioneer Julian Robertson at Tiger Management." [2] NinaSpezz ( talk) 15:48, 4 February 2020 (UTC) reply

  • Comment (was Weak-ish keep) It's a mention in the "References" section, though I'm not sure if that counts as a "mention." Nevertheless, it's got the pageviews to support it. Tiger Global Management LLC appears to be a non-notable subsidiary, so I wondered if there was an rcat for {{ R from subsidiary}} (created by SMcCandlish, interestingly, as a redirect to {{ R from subtopic}}, which I feel is too broad, so I'm going to approach him outside of this RfD about potentially creating a new rcat template as I can see this being widely used; we have lots of non-notable subsidiaries and this is perfect) would work. Nevertheless, it's regrettably, a redirect for {{ R from subtopic}}; however, I recommend using {{ R from subsidiary}}, as can be used, in the event that rcat is created. Doug Mehus T· C 16:44, 4 February 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Comment Tiger Global Management is not and never has been a subsidiary of Tiger Management. What supporting evidence is there to imply it is? NinaSpezz ( talk) 20:37, 4 February 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Delete [changed to retarget, below]. These are not related companies, other than having had an employee in common and a similar name. This should redlink to encourage article creation if notable, and just not exist otherwise (or maybe exist as a redir to someone notable). The current target is misleading.  —  SMcCandlish ¢ 😼  22:21, 4 February 2020 (UTC) reply
  •  Question: for SMcC or the nom, what's the reference #2 at Tiger Management to "Tiger Global Management LLC"? If the two companies are unrelated, then that reference is incorrect, and should be removed from the article. If that's the case, then yes, I will change my !vote. Doug Mehus T· C 00:43, 5 February 2020 (UTC) reply
Comment. Citation 2 refers to the LLC not the Corp. This article is about the latter. That reference and the number of employees it supports must go. I couldn't find anything about the number of people Corp employs. Narky Blert ( talk) 12:02, 5 February 2020 (UTC) reply
Thanks, Narky Blert, if the reference is about the LLC, then that reference should still be deleted, no? Doug Mehus T· C 16:55, 6 February 2020 (UTC) reply
Yes. Narky Blert ( talk) 17:00, 6 February 2020 (UTC) reply
Thank you and  Done. Doug Mehus T· C 17:02, 6 February 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per nom. Everyhing I've found tells me that Corp (Robertson, 1980) and LLC (Coleman, 2001) are completely distinct entities.
I compliment nom on making full disclosure. It doesn't half make life easy! Narky Blert ( talk) 12:14, 5 February 2020 (UTC) reply
Retarget and hatnote per AngusWOOF (changing !vote). Narky Blert ( talk) 10:41, 6 February 2020 (UTC) reply
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Little dick

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Small penis. signed, Rosguill talk 22:10, 11 February 2020 (UTC) reply

No mention about this term in target article Colgatepony234 ( talk) 13:39, 4 February 2020 (UTC) reply

I'd found him, but it's at least a double spelling difference and IMO therefore remote. Narky Blert ( talk) 23:56, 4 February 2020 (UTC) reply

References

  1. ^ Green, Jonathon (2005). Cassell's Dictionary of Slang. Sterling Publishing Company, Inc. p. 886. ISBN  978-0-304-36636-1.
  2. ^ Staff, Dalzell Victor Eds; Partridge, Eric (2006). The New Partridge Dictionary of Slang and Unconventional English: J-Z. Taylor & Francis. ISBN  978-0-415-25938-5.
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Afterborn

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The result of the discussion was speedy keep. Nomination withdrawn, I've been convinced by the arguments for why this should be kept. (non-admin closure) Hog Farm ( talk) 19:44, 6 February 2020 (UTC) reply

This redirect could refer to the Tolkien name for men, a legal term, or a confusion of "afterbirth." Maybe better let the search function do its work here. Hog Farm ( talk) 03:28, 4 February 2020 (UTC) reply

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Fulfilment Logistics

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The result of the discussion was delete per WP:XY. Wug· a·po·des 19:43, 12 February 2020 (UTC) reply

This redirect as a search term could lead the reader into believing they will arrive at some sort of field of study page, but then gets forwarded to a page about the structure. (Also worth noting, this redirect formerly targeted N Brown Group when it was created.) Steel1943 ( talk) 21:38, 24 January 2020 (UTC) reply

  • Comment (was Disambiguate) Potential targets include references to Amazon's Fulfillment Services division, Warehouse, and pretty much any other notable fulfillment services company. -- Doug Mehus T· C 22:13, 24 January 2020 (UTC) reply
    • ...None of these options even qualify to be on such a disambiguation page per MOS:DAB standards. The target has to be or include a subtopic or redirect that is a title/spelling match for the entry to be considered helpful. None of those options meet such criteria. With such examples, readers would better benefit from using Wikipedia's search function to determine what subject they are attempting to locate. Steel1943 ( talk) 22:21, 24 January 2020 (UTC) reply
      Steel1943 Wikipedia's search function is not that great. Maybe, as titled, it may not be a good dab page, but I still think we could easily have a qualifying dab page titled something like Fulfillment services, Logistics, or something similar. Doug Mehus T· C 22:28, 24 January 2020 (UTC) reply
      Such a page would not be a disambiguation page. What you are referring to most likely would be an actual article with a subject that would identify what entities engage in the subject. Steel1943 ( talk) 22:36, 24 January 2020 (UTC) reply
      i.e., we could potentially retarget to Logistics (disambiguation) as a plausible related term, a term not exactly mentioned in the target, and similar. Doug Mehus T· C 22:29, 24 January 2020 (UTC) reply
      That would cause the nominated redirect to have somewhat of an WP:XY issue then, considering that Fulfillment also exists and is also a disambiguation page. In addition, not all of the subjects at Logistics (disambiguation) are exclusive to the "fulfillment" adjective, causing confusion to whoever would look up the r omimated redirect and arrive at the aforementioned disambiguation page. (And wow, I didn't realize that the word "fulfillment" in the nominated redirect was misspelled until now: It's missing an "L".) Steel1943 ( talk) 00:18, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply
      Steel1943 I missed that, too. Agreed that the spelling error and the capitalization issue are two strikes against this redirect. I'm not sure I see the WP:XY point, though. That said, those two strikes are enough to make me lean towards deleting, possibly somewhat weekly, without prejudice to me re-creating a correctly capitalized and spelled dab page or redirect to a better target/dab page, should I find one. Hopefully you won't watchlist all possible variant spellings and capitalizations and speedy tag such creation(s) for deletion. :P Doug Mehus T· C 00:30, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply
      ( edit conflict) The thing is that there is no disambiguation page to be created. Except for possibly the former target of this redirect, there are no subjects on Wikipedia that are specifically known by this term. In lieu of retargeting this redirect back to its former target, the better option for our readers would be to delete this redirect so they can use the search function to figure out what subject they may be looking for. Steel1943 ( talk) 00:33, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply
      Steel1943 I see what you're saying, but what I'm getting at is "fulfillment logistics," properly spelled and capitalized, is a legitimate phrase on which someone might search, and it's reasonable to suggest that they might look to one of the pages at Logistics (disambiguation) or Fulfillment. The problem is, they're separate dab pages. I'm wondering if maybe the best solution is to combine and rename those dab pages, as say Fulfillment and logistics, with each of those separate concepts sub-arranged under separate headings. Following each, we'd provide the usual see also references, too. and preserve the redirects to those dab pages? It's a multi-stage close, but I think those two are such similar concepts, they could easily be combined into a renamed dab page. Doug Mehus T· C 00:37, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply
      ( edit conflict) ...Combine the disambiguation pages? The result would not be a disambiguation page at all; it would be a somewhat unclear mashup of terms with the end result most likely be to restore the previous status quo of having separate disambiguation pages for each term. Steel1943 ( talk) 00:41, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply
      A page named " Fulfillment and logistics" would be one of the following: 1) an article with that concept (existing articles would have to be merged to create this, not disambiguation pages), 2) the proper name of an entity or organization that exists, or 3) a redirect that would get deleted due to its clear WP:XY nature. Steel1943 ( talk) 00:45, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply
      Yeah, we do not redirect general subjects to specific companies, per WP:NPOV, WP:NOT#PROMO, etc.  —  SMcCandlish ¢ 😼  22:31, 4 February 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per XY. I think that the above discussion demonstrates that there isn't a clear target for this redirect nor a clean way to create one. signed, Rosguill talk 23:17, 3 February 2020 (UTC) reply
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  • Comment I'm fine with delete-ing this redirect, per the above discussion, but I still think we've got a strong case here for a future, and better titled, dab page to reverse logistics, order fulfillment, warehousing, and shipping-related targets. I'm not sure what that dab page should be titled. What do you think Rosguill? Doug Mehus T· C 16:51, 4 February 2020 (UTC) reply
Dmehus, I currently don't see a way out of this that isn't just XY. signed, Rosguill talk 17:25, 4 February 2020 (UTC) reply
True, and I agree it is a poorly titled redirect, thus I think deletion is best for this redirect. I was thinking, proactively, what are your thoughts on a future Fulfillment and logistics dab page, leaving this redirect deleted as implausible? Doug Mehus T· C 17:31, 4 February 2020 (UTC) reply
Comment. DAB pages are for ambiguous titles, not ambiguous topics. Narky Blert ( talk) 17:36, 4 February 2020 (UTC) reply
Ah, that makes sense. An important nuance in terms clarifying the dab page's purpose. Doug Mehus T· C 17:54, 4 February 2020 (UTC) reply
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TRAINSTATION

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The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguill talk 03:43, 12 February 2020 (UTC) reply

Useless and potentially confusing, as it points to a movie instead of the obvious primary topic Train station. Nothing links to this redirect, so there is nothing to lose. The search engine will take care of redirecting readers typing "trainstation" without a space. There may be a case to create a redirect from the Trainstation misspelling to the Train station main article. — JFG talk 23:25, 4 February 2020 (UTC) reply

  • Delete. Not mentioned in, and no particular affinity with, the current target. The film title was capitalised in the poster (well, duh), but as two words.
The fact that WP has lived so long without Trainstation suggests that there's no crying demand. It would be harmless, though.
Train station (disambiguation) created (I found a third full-title match). Narky Blert ( talk) 09:28, 5 February 2020 (UTC) reply
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2011 Asian Men's Hockey Champions Trophy 2011

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The result of the discussion was delete. Wug· a·po·des 19:46, 12 February 2020 (UTC) reply

Redundant title that makes for an unlikely search term + no incoming links = this redirect should be deleted. signed, Rosguill talk 22:10, 4 February 2020 (UTC) reply

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Typhoon Vernon(1993)

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The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguill talk 22:11, 11 February 2020 (UTC) reply

Improperly written typhoon related redirects with a spacing error before the disambiguator. CycloneYoris talk! 20:15, 4 February 2020 (UTC) reply

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Hwa Mui

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The result of the discussion was speedy keep. withdrawing discussion per the provided justification. signed, Rosguill talk 00:14, 6 February 2020 (UTC) reply

Not mentioned at the target or in its lone source. Delete unless a justification can be provided. signed, Rosguill talk 19:03, 4 February 2020 (UTC) reply

Her dissertation is under the name Hwa Mui. I guess it's her native name. Ali Pirhayati ( talk) 23:53, 4 February 2020 (UTC) reply
How do we know it's the same person? Glades12 ( talk) 10:24, 5 February 2020 (UTC) reply
"May Sim received her Ph.D. from Vanderbilt University. Her dissertation, Aristotle’s Understanding of Form and Universals[..."] (cited in the article)
Aristotle's Understanding of Form and Universals | Hwa Mui | Dissertation, Vanderbilt University (1989)]. Not proof, but very strong evidence. Narky Blert ( talk) 11:48, 5 February 2020 (UTC) reply
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Interstate 13 in California

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The result of the discussion was keep. Consensus was very clear that this redirect is useful. I will add some possible rcats post-close, which can be adjusted boldly as needed. (non-admin closure) Doug Mehus T· C 20:18, 11 February 2020 (UTC) reply
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Interstate 13 was only mentioned on the cahighways website, which is not a reliable source. If this is deleted, the mention of I-13 should be removed from the Interstate 605 article, as well. Morriswa (Charlotte Allison) ( talk) 12:25, 28 January 2020 (UTC) reply

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  • Keep per Hog_Farm. See also WP:V (read it closely): facts need to be verifiable; they don't need to be verified yet unless potentially controversial, and this isn't likely to be controversial to anyone (especially given the level of obsessive geekery brought to bear by the wikiproject devoted to US highways).  —  SMcCandlish ¢ 😼  22:55, 4 February 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Keep No evidence source is even unreliable. Plus what everyone else says. Smartyllama ( talk) 00:09, 7 February 2020 (UTC) reply
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Abu Ivanka Al Amriki

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The result of the discussion was delete. Wug· a·po·des 19:46, 12 February 2020 (UTC) reply

This originally pointed to Donald Trump, which does not mention the nickname at all. I tried pointing it to List of nicknames of presidents of the United States#Donald Trump and providing citations, but was informed on the talk page that it doesn't appear to meet the standard for inclusion there. I would thus suggest deletion, unless someone can find enough usage in RS to justify inclusion at that target. signed, Rosguill talk 21:36, 27 January 2020 (UTC) reply

Shhhnotsoloud I agree, but it seems that the local consensus at that page is demanding a higher bar of usage before inclusion (which is understandable given the subject matter). signed, Rosguill talk 21:23, 28 January 2020 (UTC) reply
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Ilmarin

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Vala (Middle-earth)#Manwë. (non-admin closure) Doug Mehus T· C 20:04, 11 February 2020 (UTC) reply

Not mentioned at target page. Is mentioned briefly as the name of an unrelated character in a video game plot summary, and briefly at Vala (Middle-earth) in the sentence "He lived atop Mount Taniquetil, the highest mountain of the world, in the halls of Ilmarin." Neither of those references would be particularly useful to the reader, so delete. Hog Farm ( talk) 23:00, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply

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Fakhri 'Abd al-Hadi

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The result of the discussion was speedy delete. Per WP:G7 per the redirect creator's participation here. signed, Rosguill talk 19:59, 4 February 2020 (UTC) reply

Not mentioned at the target. Based on a Scholar search, it seems that Fakhri was a relative of Awni's and was likely notable. But, if they're not mentioned at the target, I don't think this redirect is helping anyone and would suggest deletion. signed, Rosguill talk 18:28, 4 February 2020 (UTC) reply

  • Delete You are right, the two are not the same person. I found similarities between them when I created the redirect, and there is not a lot of information about Fakhri available on the Internet, but according to this article (in Arabic), Fakhri died in the year 1943, while Awni's article states he died in 1970. Thus they are not the same person. Cilidus ( talk) 19:57, 4 February 2020 (UTC) reply
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Tiger Global Management

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Chase Coleman III. signed, Rosguill talk 22:11, 11 February 2020 (UTC) reply

Recommend deletion as Tiger Management was founded in 1980 by Julian Robertson and Tiger Global Management is a separate entity founded in 2001 by Chase Coleman. Please note I work for Rubenstein and am addressing this issue on behalf of Tiger Global Management.

A recent Bloomberg article notes, "Coleman is one of at least 10 money managers who went on to run billions of dollars after cutting their teeth at Robertson’s Tiger Management, and at least eight managers have emerged from Coleman’s Tiger Global... Robertson’s Tiger, which was founded in 1980..." [1]

A recent Wall Street Journal article notes, "Charles "Chase" Coleman started Tiger Global in 2001 when he was still working for hedge-fund pioneer Julian Robertson at Tiger Management." [2] NinaSpezz ( talk) 15:48, 4 February 2020 (UTC) reply

  • Comment (was Weak-ish keep) It's a mention in the "References" section, though I'm not sure if that counts as a "mention." Nevertheless, it's got the pageviews to support it. Tiger Global Management LLC appears to be a non-notable subsidiary, so I wondered if there was an rcat for {{ R from subsidiary}} (created by SMcCandlish, interestingly, as a redirect to {{ R from subtopic}}, which I feel is too broad, so I'm going to approach him outside of this RfD about potentially creating a new rcat template as I can see this being widely used; we have lots of non-notable subsidiaries and this is perfect) would work. Nevertheless, it's regrettably, a redirect for {{ R from subtopic}}; however, I recommend using {{ R from subsidiary}}, as can be used, in the event that rcat is created. Doug Mehus T· C 16:44, 4 February 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Comment Tiger Global Management is not and never has been a subsidiary of Tiger Management. What supporting evidence is there to imply it is? NinaSpezz ( talk) 20:37, 4 February 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Delete [changed to retarget, below]. These are not related companies, other than having had an employee in common and a similar name. This should redlink to encourage article creation if notable, and just not exist otherwise (or maybe exist as a redir to someone notable). The current target is misleading.  —  SMcCandlish ¢ 😼  22:21, 4 February 2020 (UTC) reply
  •  Question: for SMcC or the nom, what's the reference #2 at Tiger Management to "Tiger Global Management LLC"? If the two companies are unrelated, then that reference is incorrect, and should be removed from the article. If that's the case, then yes, I will change my !vote. Doug Mehus T· C 00:43, 5 February 2020 (UTC) reply
Comment. Citation 2 refers to the LLC not the Corp. This article is about the latter. That reference and the number of employees it supports must go. I couldn't find anything about the number of people Corp employs. Narky Blert ( talk) 12:02, 5 February 2020 (UTC) reply
Thanks, Narky Blert, if the reference is about the LLC, then that reference should still be deleted, no? Doug Mehus T· C 16:55, 6 February 2020 (UTC) reply
Yes. Narky Blert ( talk) 17:00, 6 February 2020 (UTC) reply
Thank you and  Done. Doug Mehus T· C 17:02, 6 February 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per nom. Everyhing I've found tells me that Corp (Robertson, 1980) and LLC (Coleman, 2001) are completely distinct entities.
I compliment nom on making full disclosure. It doesn't half make life easy! Narky Blert ( talk) 12:14, 5 February 2020 (UTC) reply
Retarget and hatnote per AngusWOOF (changing !vote). Narky Blert ( talk) 10:41, 6 February 2020 (UTC) reply
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Little dick

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Small penis. signed, Rosguill talk 22:10, 11 February 2020 (UTC) reply

No mention about this term in target article Colgatepony234 ( talk) 13:39, 4 February 2020 (UTC) reply

I'd found him, but it's at least a double spelling difference and IMO therefore remote. Narky Blert ( talk) 23:56, 4 February 2020 (UTC) reply

References

  1. ^ Green, Jonathon (2005). Cassell's Dictionary of Slang. Sterling Publishing Company, Inc. p. 886. ISBN  978-0-304-36636-1.
  2. ^ Staff, Dalzell Victor Eds; Partridge, Eric (2006). The New Partridge Dictionary of Slang and Unconventional English: J-Z. Taylor & Francis. ISBN  978-0-415-25938-5.
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Afterborn

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The result of the discussion was speedy keep. Nomination withdrawn, I've been convinced by the arguments for why this should be kept. (non-admin closure) Hog Farm ( talk) 19:44, 6 February 2020 (UTC) reply

This redirect could refer to the Tolkien name for men, a legal term, or a confusion of "afterbirth." Maybe better let the search function do its work here. Hog Farm ( talk) 03:28, 4 February 2020 (UTC) reply

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Fulfilment Logistics

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The result of the discussion was delete per WP:XY. Wug· a·po·des 19:43, 12 February 2020 (UTC) reply

This redirect as a search term could lead the reader into believing they will arrive at some sort of field of study page, but then gets forwarded to a page about the structure. (Also worth noting, this redirect formerly targeted N Brown Group when it was created.) Steel1943 ( talk) 21:38, 24 January 2020 (UTC) reply

  • Comment (was Disambiguate) Potential targets include references to Amazon's Fulfillment Services division, Warehouse, and pretty much any other notable fulfillment services company. -- Doug Mehus T· C 22:13, 24 January 2020 (UTC) reply
    • ...None of these options even qualify to be on such a disambiguation page per MOS:DAB standards. The target has to be or include a subtopic or redirect that is a title/spelling match for the entry to be considered helpful. None of those options meet such criteria. With such examples, readers would better benefit from using Wikipedia's search function to determine what subject they are attempting to locate. Steel1943 ( talk) 22:21, 24 January 2020 (UTC) reply
      Steel1943 Wikipedia's search function is not that great. Maybe, as titled, it may not be a good dab page, but I still think we could easily have a qualifying dab page titled something like Fulfillment services, Logistics, or something similar. Doug Mehus T· C 22:28, 24 January 2020 (UTC) reply
      Such a page would not be a disambiguation page. What you are referring to most likely would be an actual article with a subject that would identify what entities engage in the subject. Steel1943 ( talk) 22:36, 24 January 2020 (UTC) reply
      i.e., we could potentially retarget to Logistics (disambiguation) as a plausible related term, a term not exactly mentioned in the target, and similar. Doug Mehus T· C 22:29, 24 January 2020 (UTC) reply
      That would cause the nominated redirect to have somewhat of an WP:XY issue then, considering that Fulfillment also exists and is also a disambiguation page. In addition, not all of the subjects at Logistics (disambiguation) are exclusive to the "fulfillment" adjective, causing confusion to whoever would look up the r omimated redirect and arrive at the aforementioned disambiguation page. (And wow, I didn't realize that the word "fulfillment" in the nominated redirect was misspelled until now: It's missing an "L".) Steel1943 ( talk) 00:18, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply
      Steel1943 I missed that, too. Agreed that the spelling error and the capitalization issue are two strikes against this redirect. I'm not sure I see the WP:XY point, though. That said, those two strikes are enough to make me lean towards deleting, possibly somewhat weekly, without prejudice to me re-creating a correctly capitalized and spelled dab page or redirect to a better target/dab page, should I find one. Hopefully you won't watchlist all possible variant spellings and capitalizations and speedy tag such creation(s) for deletion. :P Doug Mehus T· C 00:30, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply
      ( edit conflict) The thing is that there is no disambiguation page to be created. Except for possibly the former target of this redirect, there are no subjects on Wikipedia that are specifically known by this term. In lieu of retargeting this redirect back to its former target, the better option for our readers would be to delete this redirect so they can use the search function to figure out what subject they may be looking for. Steel1943 ( talk) 00:33, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply
      Steel1943 I see what you're saying, but what I'm getting at is "fulfillment logistics," properly spelled and capitalized, is a legitimate phrase on which someone might search, and it's reasonable to suggest that they might look to one of the pages at Logistics (disambiguation) or Fulfillment. The problem is, they're separate dab pages. I'm wondering if maybe the best solution is to combine and rename those dab pages, as say Fulfillment and logistics, with each of those separate concepts sub-arranged under separate headings. Following each, we'd provide the usual see also references, too. and preserve the redirects to those dab pages? It's a multi-stage close, but I think those two are such similar concepts, they could easily be combined into a renamed dab page. Doug Mehus T· C 00:37, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply
      ( edit conflict) ...Combine the disambiguation pages? The result would not be a disambiguation page at all; it would be a somewhat unclear mashup of terms with the end result most likely be to restore the previous status quo of having separate disambiguation pages for each term. Steel1943 ( talk) 00:41, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply
      A page named " Fulfillment and logistics" would be one of the following: 1) an article with that concept (existing articles would have to be merged to create this, not disambiguation pages), 2) the proper name of an entity or organization that exists, or 3) a redirect that would get deleted due to its clear WP:XY nature. Steel1943 ( talk) 00:45, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply
      Yeah, we do not redirect general subjects to specific companies, per WP:NPOV, WP:NOT#PROMO, etc.  —  SMcCandlish ¢ 😼  22:31, 4 February 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per XY. I think that the above discussion demonstrates that there isn't a clear target for this redirect nor a clean way to create one. signed, Rosguill talk 23:17, 3 February 2020 (UTC) reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Deryck C. 00:10, 4 February 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Comment I'm fine with delete-ing this redirect, per the above discussion, but I still think we've got a strong case here for a future, and better titled, dab page to reverse logistics, order fulfillment, warehousing, and shipping-related targets. I'm not sure what that dab page should be titled. What do you think Rosguill? Doug Mehus T· C 16:51, 4 February 2020 (UTC) reply
Dmehus, I currently don't see a way out of this that isn't just XY. signed, Rosguill talk 17:25, 4 February 2020 (UTC) reply
True, and I agree it is a poorly titled redirect, thus I think deletion is best for this redirect. I was thinking, proactively, what are your thoughts on a future Fulfillment and logistics dab page, leaving this redirect deleted as implausible? Doug Mehus T· C 17:31, 4 February 2020 (UTC) reply
Comment. DAB pages are for ambiguous titles, not ambiguous topics. Narky Blert ( talk) 17:36, 4 February 2020 (UTC) reply
Ah, that makes sense. An important nuance in terms clarifying the dab page's purpose. Doug Mehus T· C 17:54, 4 February 2020 (UTC) reply
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