This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on October 10, 2016.
Not exactly a sort name. President is a title, not a forename. -- Nevé – selbert 18:50, 10 October 2016 (UTC)
*Weak delete. Yes, we have {{
R from sort name}}
with an astonishing 30,711 entries but it doesn't mean we do this at all consistenty (we have far more than 30,711 biographies) and I really wonder whether any {{
R from sort name}}
is at all helpful. We have
Wales, Jimmy (which is not rcatted as {[tlx|R from sort name}}), but not
Yeltsin, Boris, for example. Russian Wikipedia actually has titles of bio articles surname-first, e.g
ru:Ельцин, Борис Николаевич, consistenly to achieve this. But at EN:WP we achieve that end with [[DEFAULTSORT:Adams, President]]
. I know,
WP:OTHERSTUFFDOESNTEXIST, but since also this is a {{
R from ambiguous page}}
(which President Adams?), is rcatted but not DEFAULTSORTed, and had only 2 hits in the 90 days before this RfD with no incoming links, I think it slightly worse than useless.
WP:RFD#D2 confusing, not at target.
{{
R from sort name}}
: Redirects are not the way to achieve index sorting. But I've not the energy to fight that battle, because at least it would require making sure each target had the appropriate DEFAULTSORT instead, and that's probably a rather Herculean, or at least,
Stakhanovite, task. (I suppose a bot could do it.)
Si Trew (
talk) 08:04, 11 October 2016 (UTC)
{{
R from sort name}}
are earlier admissions of failure with the search engine. The aim would be for the "most likely" terms to rank top of the research, like some other well-used search engines do. But this is really going off-topic, which is what to do with this redirect.
Si Trew (
talk) 17:04, 11 October 2016 (UTC)
{{
R from sort name}}
when there may be multiple useful sort orders, but as it stands it is being applied rather inconsistently. I must admit I was entirely unaware of its existence, and I have been knocking around a bit doing bio articles and redirects and DABs and other things over the years, too. Is there something in
WP:MOS that recommends its use?
Si Trew (
talk) 04:44, 12 October 2016 (UTC)
{{
R from sort name}}
is (or should be) just a doppelganger for the [[DEFAULTSORT]]
(or any other sorts) at the target. There might be a case for its use when we want the same target sorted in several different ways, but in this case the target doesn't specify a sort order at all, so presumably the authors of the target (a DAB) did not intend it to appear to be sorted this way. Thus it's
WP:RFD#D2 confusing as an {{
R from sort name}}
that is inconsistent with the way the target is actually sorted.
Si Trew (
talk) 04:44, 12 October 2016 (UTC) Relisted, see
Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 October 18#Brian kelly album redirects
Parentheses should be used for disambiguating, rather than giving examples. Ppp ery 14:37, 10 October 2016 (UTC)
{{
R from unnecessary disambiguation}}
, and I would say
WP:RFD#K5 somebody finds it useful but there are no incoming links and stats are infinitessimal. But the "(`)" is not really an example, it's part of an alternative, fuller description:
` also →
Grave accent. That being said, something like
Grave accent (¸) would be stupid so there's really no need for this. Anyone not knowing what a grave accent is can just search for "Grave accent". Anywone who knows that it is "`" can search for that.
Si Trew (
talk) 08:28, 11 October 2016 (UTC)Redirects to a different league. Rob Sinden ( talk) 13:31, 10 October 2016 (UTC)
No evidence the person is referred to as just "Bin". SST flyer 13:15, 10 October 2016 (UTC)
Not the only notable woman with surname Clinton. SST flyer 12:49, 10 October 2016 (UTC)
Not the only notable woman with a husband with surname Clinton. SST flyer 12:49, 10 October 2016 (UTC)
Not the only notable woman with a husband with surname Clinton. SST flyer 12:49, 10 October 2016 (UTC)
Not the only politician with this name. SST flyer 12:45, 10 October 2016 (UTC)
{{
R from incorrect name}}
(
Hilary Benn with one L) so I have thus rcatted.
Si Trew (
talk) 08:45, 11 October 2016 (UTC)Delete redirect. As per AfD. A wholly inappropriate redirect for non-notable "online community" which fails WP:PRODUCT, WP:GNG and has no reasonable reason to sit as WP:PRIMARYTOPIC for this title. Guliolopez ( talk) 09:08, 10 October 2016 (UTC)
The article mode effect doesn't have the word "Trump" in it. So what is it? There is a new definition for the Trump effect, and it's Donald Trump. [1] [2] [3] [4] – Muboshgu ( talk) 05:24, 10 October 2016 (UTC)
Total surprise. While grease fire would be a better target, it isn't synonymous, and most if not all types of fires could occur in a place designated as the kitchen. Bedroom fires and bathroom fires don't exist, and I think this term should follow suit. — Godsy ( TALK CONT) 04:53, 10 October 2016 (UTC)
Term is not mentioned in target, or anywhere. - Champion ( talk) ( contribs) (Formerly TheChampionMan1234) 04:37, 10 October 2016 (UTC)
UK has always been abbreviated as "UK", It's extremely rare to see it as "Uk", Having searched "UK driving licence" this target never popped up (I had to change the capital to a lowercase for it to appear) so this looks to have been a useless and unused redirect (The pageview tool wouldn't pick this up),
Anyway I've created
UK driving license which should hopefully work better than this target –
Davey2010
Talk 01:14, 10 October 2016 (UTC)
{{
R from misspelling}}
and {{
R from short name}}
but had this new "better but still incorrect" form not been recently created by nominator then this one would not be a candidate for deletion. The search engine will supress it if it decides that the new "UK driving license", to the same target, is "better". It would probably have picked it up otherwise.{{
R from other name}}
and the first as {{
R from other spelling}}
too. Similary
Driving license in the United Kingdom as {{
R from incorrect spelling}}
. In short I have gone through all the Rs linking to this target. Over time, people have been a bit overenthusiastic with some of these, I think... but some are quite old.
Si Trew (
talk) 08:48, 11 October 2016 (UTC)
Song is entirely an insult. Just listen to the song and read the lyrics. No need to archive songs bullying or attacking someone. It can be compared to an attack page. As you may no there is unfortunately thousands of thousands that might insult someone but none can compare to being as derogatory as this one. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Red Icarus of Jakarta ( talk • contribs) 05:46, 10 October 2016 (UTC)
Deletion of redirect as it has zero views. https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews/?project=en.wikipedia.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&start=2016-09-20&end=2016-10-09&pages=Chat-Roboter Daylen ( talk) 21:40, 10 October 2016 (UTC)
{{
R from other language|de}}
but no affinity to English;
WP:RFD#D5 nonsense,
WP:RFD#D2 confusing, not at target. There is one (German) citation at the target to "Chatroboter" without the hyphen ("Chatroboter simulieren Menschen") but we haven't
Chatroboter anyway. The IW link is to
de:Chatbot and the term (with or without hyphen) is not mentioned there either.
Si Trew (
talk) 09:45, 11 October 2016 (UTC)This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on October 10, 2016.
Not exactly a sort name. President is a title, not a forename. -- Nevé – selbert 18:50, 10 October 2016 (UTC)
*Weak delete. Yes, we have {{
R from sort name}}
with an astonishing 30,711 entries but it doesn't mean we do this at all consistenty (we have far more than 30,711 biographies) and I really wonder whether any {{
R from sort name}}
is at all helpful. We have
Wales, Jimmy (which is not rcatted as {[tlx|R from sort name}}), but not
Yeltsin, Boris, for example. Russian Wikipedia actually has titles of bio articles surname-first, e.g
ru:Ельцин, Борис Николаевич, consistenly to achieve this. But at EN:WP we achieve that end with [[DEFAULTSORT:Adams, President]]
. I know,
WP:OTHERSTUFFDOESNTEXIST, but since also this is a {{
R from ambiguous page}}
(which President Adams?), is rcatted but not DEFAULTSORTed, and had only 2 hits in the 90 days before this RfD with no incoming links, I think it slightly worse than useless.
WP:RFD#D2 confusing, not at target.
{{
R from sort name}}
: Redirects are not the way to achieve index sorting. But I've not the energy to fight that battle, because at least it would require making sure each target had the appropriate DEFAULTSORT instead, and that's probably a rather Herculean, or at least,
Stakhanovite, task. (I suppose a bot could do it.)
Si Trew (
talk) 08:04, 11 October 2016 (UTC)
{{
R from sort name}}
are earlier admissions of failure with the search engine. The aim would be for the "most likely" terms to rank top of the research, like some other well-used search engines do. But this is really going off-topic, which is what to do with this redirect.
Si Trew (
talk) 17:04, 11 October 2016 (UTC)
{{
R from sort name}}
when there may be multiple useful sort orders, but as it stands it is being applied rather inconsistently. I must admit I was entirely unaware of its existence, and I have been knocking around a bit doing bio articles and redirects and DABs and other things over the years, too. Is there something in
WP:MOS that recommends its use?
Si Trew (
talk) 04:44, 12 October 2016 (UTC)
{{
R from sort name}}
is (or should be) just a doppelganger for the [[DEFAULTSORT]]
(or any other sorts) at the target. There might be a case for its use when we want the same target sorted in several different ways, but in this case the target doesn't specify a sort order at all, so presumably the authors of the target (a DAB) did not intend it to appear to be sorted this way. Thus it's
WP:RFD#D2 confusing as an {{
R from sort name}}
that is inconsistent with the way the target is actually sorted.
Si Trew (
talk) 04:44, 12 October 2016 (UTC) Relisted, see
Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 October 18#Brian kelly album redirects
Parentheses should be used for disambiguating, rather than giving examples. Ppp ery 14:37, 10 October 2016 (UTC)
{{
R from unnecessary disambiguation}}
, and I would say
WP:RFD#K5 somebody finds it useful but there are no incoming links and stats are infinitessimal. But the "(`)" is not really an example, it's part of an alternative, fuller description:
` also →
Grave accent. That being said, something like
Grave accent (¸) would be stupid so there's really no need for this. Anyone not knowing what a grave accent is can just search for "Grave accent". Anywone who knows that it is "`" can search for that.
Si Trew (
talk) 08:28, 11 October 2016 (UTC)Redirects to a different league. Rob Sinden ( talk) 13:31, 10 October 2016 (UTC)
No evidence the person is referred to as just "Bin". SST flyer 13:15, 10 October 2016 (UTC)
Not the only notable woman with surname Clinton. SST flyer 12:49, 10 October 2016 (UTC)
Not the only notable woman with a husband with surname Clinton. SST flyer 12:49, 10 October 2016 (UTC)
Not the only notable woman with a husband with surname Clinton. SST flyer 12:49, 10 October 2016 (UTC)
Not the only politician with this name. SST flyer 12:45, 10 October 2016 (UTC)
{{
R from incorrect name}}
(
Hilary Benn with one L) so I have thus rcatted.
Si Trew (
talk) 08:45, 11 October 2016 (UTC)Delete redirect. As per AfD. A wholly inappropriate redirect for non-notable "online community" which fails WP:PRODUCT, WP:GNG and has no reasonable reason to sit as WP:PRIMARYTOPIC for this title. Guliolopez ( talk) 09:08, 10 October 2016 (UTC)
The article mode effect doesn't have the word "Trump" in it. So what is it? There is a new definition for the Trump effect, and it's Donald Trump. [1] [2] [3] [4] – Muboshgu ( talk) 05:24, 10 October 2016 (UTC)
Total surprise. While grease fire would be a better target, it isn't synonymous, and most if not all types of fires could occur in a place designated as the kitchen. Bedroom fires and bathroom fires don't exist, and I think this term should follow suit. — Godsy ( TALK CONT) 04:53, 10 October 2016 (UTC)
Term is not mentioned in target, or anywhere. - Champion ( talk) ( contribs) (Formerly TheChampionMan1234) 04:37, 10 October 2016 (UTC)
UK has always been abbreviated as "UK", It's extremely rare to see it as "Uk", Having searched "UK driving licence" this target never popped up (I had to change the capital to a lowercase for it to appear) so this looks to have been a useless and unused redirect (The pageview tool wouldn't pick this up),
Anyway I've created
UK driving license which should hopefully work better than this target –
Davey2010
Talk 01:14, 10 October 2016 (UTC)
{{
R from misspelling}}
and {{
R from short name}}
but had this new "better but still incorrect" form not been recently created by nominator then this one would not be a candidate for deletion. The search engine will supress it if it decides that the new "UK driving license", to the same target, is "better". It would probably have picked it up otherwise.{{
R from other name}}
and the first as {{
R from other spelling}}
too. Similary
Driving license in the United Kingdom as {{
R from incorrect spelling}}
. In short I have gone through all the Rs linking to this target. Over time, people have been a bit overenthusiastic with some of these, I think... but some are quite old.
Si Trew (
talk) 08:48, 11 October 2016 (UTC)
Song is entirely an insult. Just listen to the song and read the lyrics. No need to archive songs bullying or attacking someone. It can be compared to an attack page. As you may no there is unfortunately thousands of thousands that might insult someone but none can compare to being as derogatory as this one. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Red Icarus of Jakarta ( talk • contribs) 05:46, 10 October 2016 (UTC)
Deletion of redirect as it has zero views. https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews/?project=en.wikipedia.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&start=2016-09-20&end=2016-10-09&pages=Chat-Roboter Daylen ( talk) 21:40, 10 October 2016 (UTC)
{{
R from other language|de}}
but no affinity to English;
WP:RFD#D5 nonsense,
WP:RFD#D2 confusing, not at target. There is one (German) citation at the target to "Chatroboter" without the hyphen ("Chatroboter simulieren Menschen") but we haven't
Chatroboter anyway. The IW link is to
de:Chatbot and the term (with or without hyphen) is not mentioned there either.
Si Trew (
talk) 09:45, 11 October 2016 (UTC)