The result of the discussion was: keep . Users are typically given leeway to express opinions in their user space even if they are disagreeable to other editors. There are boundaries of acceptability and user space content that crosses them can be deleted, but the consensus of the discussion is that SMcCandlish hasn't crossed them in this case. (Note that this close is independent of the close for the related Signpost article, and the guidelines and norms for project space are different from those for user space.) RL0919 ( talk) 20:56, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
I am nominating this page for deletion in conjunction with the deletion nomination of today's Signpost article, since the article is based on this "humorous" essay. Regardless of SMcCandlish's intent, the Signpost article has been found to be offensive by many readers due to its thinly veiled insults directed towards those who prefer to choose their own gender pronouns.
The page apparently functions as a template, but it has no transclusions and is in SMcCandlish's userspace. Jc86035 ( talk) 15:55, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
and it seems there has been canvassing on both sides.
"This user is allowed on Wikipedia because It is considered humorous. Neither It nor Its comments should be taken even remotely seriously."would imply that any user that uses this template should automatically be considered a jokester or troll throughout the entire website? I suppose that tag could go on someone's userpage in isolation, but in combination with the rest of the template, that really makes a given user look like a troll who is only there to discredit the identities of others. ~ Maplestrip/Mable ( chat) 13:30, 1 March 2019 (UTC)
post-biological explicate manifestation of the Multiverse's implicate reality. Obviously you're supposed to dislike "It", right? They're a comedic antagonist, meant to be seen as egocentric, ill-humored, bossy, bullying, and absurd. Now what is It's primary concern in the piece? Making sure people address them using proper pronouns. In real life, what group of people comes to mind when you think concerned with proper pronouns? Trans people, right? When you break the piece down it's hard not to see it as anything but a hateful caricature of trans folks. Now, SMc has said that wasn't the intention, and I will assume good faith and believe him. But that doesn't exempt the piece from criticism. WanderingWanda (they/them) ( t/ c) 05:53, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
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I have never stated that SMcCandlish is a transphobe or has transphobia. I have stated that the Signpost "humour" essay on pronouns appeared transphobic, and I am happy to explicitly list and quote the very many very well established Wikipedians that have stated the article is "transphobic", "bigotry", "transphobic rants" etc.WanderingWanda (they/them) ( t/ c) 08:23, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
The result of the discussion was: keep . Users are typically given leeway to express opinions in their user space even if they are disagreeable to other editors. There are boundaries of acceptability and user space content that crosses them can be deleted, but the consensus of the discussion is that SMcCandlish hasn't crossed them in this case. (Note that this close is independent of the close for the related Signpost article, and the guidelines and norms for project space are different from those for user space.) RL0919 ( talk) 20:56, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
I am nominating this page for deletion in conjunction with the deletion nomination of today's Signpost article, since the article is based on this "humorous" essay. Regardless of SMcCandlish's intent, the Signpost article has been found to be offensive by many readers due to its thinly veiled insults directed towards those who prefer to choose their own gender pronouns.
The page apparently functions as a template, but it has no transclusions and is in SMcCandlish's userspace. Jc86035 ( talk) 15:55, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
and it seems there has been canvassing on both sides.
"This user is allowed on Wikipedia because It is considered humorous. Neither It nor Its comments should be taken even remotely seriously."would imply that any user that uses this template should automatically be considered a jokester or troll throughout the entire website? I suppose that tag could go on someone's userpage in isolation, but in combination with the rest of the template, that really makes a given user look like a troll who is only there to discredit the identities of others. ~ Maplestrip/Mable ( chat) 13:30, 1 March 2019 (UTC)
post-biological explicate manifestation of the Multiverse's implicate reality. Obviously you're supposed to dislike "It", right? They're a comedic antagonist, meant to be seen as egocentric, ill-humored, bossy, bullying, and absurd. Now what is It's primary concern in the piece? Making sure people address them using proper pronouns. In real life, what group of people comes to mind when you think concerned with proper pronouns? Trans people, right? When you break the piece down it's hard not to see it as anything but a hateful caricature of trans folks. Now, SMc has said that wasn't the intention, and I will assume good faith and believe him. But that doesn't exempt the piece from criticism. WanderingWanda (they/them) ( t/ c) 05:53, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
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I have never stated that SMcCandlish is a transphobe or has transphobia. I have stated that the Signpost "humour" essay on pronouns appeared transphobic, and I am happy to explicitly list and quote the very many very well established Wikipedians that have stated the article is "transphobic", "bigotry", "transphobic rants" etc.WanderingWanda (they/them) ( t/ c) 08:23, 4 March 2019 (UTC)