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I was recently reading the List of railway electrification systems article, when I noticed an unexpected entry for a railway shortline that I live nearby. As far as I knew from seeing it in-person, this railway is not electrified. I dug into the citations and discovered that, at least at one point, the railway was, in fact, electrified. Working through Google Street View imagery, I was able to determine that it was de-electrified some time between 2008 and 2013.
So, in my mind, there is no doubt that while this line was once electrified, it no longer is. So, I removed the entry from the article (this was about two months ago). Another editor reverted my edit, asking me to source it, which was totally fair! However, further research brought me to the realization that there were no reliable sources noting the de-electrification of the line, even though it occured over a decade ago. In fact, the only decent source online about this railway at all is the one cited by the article, published in 1999! (at which time the line would've been electrified).
Thus, have I found a flaw in a policy prohibiting original research? It is obviously incorrect to include the line on an list of electrified railways, as it is not an electrified railway. However, there is a wiki-worthy source stating it is an electrified railway which was published when that was true, and no more recent source claiming to the contrary. The evidence I have to indicate it has been de-electrified is original research, and therefore not acceptable on Wikipedia. I'm not arguing in opposition of such a policy, in 99% of cases I think it is a positive one, but is this the cost of such a policy? Or am I just missing something somewhere? P1( talk / contributions) 05:43, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
This is a list of the power supply systems that are, or have been, used for railway electrification.(Emphasis added). Accordingly, this listing should remain. Cullen328 ( talk) 07:22, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
Good faith edits are not colored, however, bad faith edits are colored red. How does Wikipedia knows whether an edit is good faith or bad faith? Vitaium ( talk) 08:10, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
Please start an RfC to add instances of Love jihad to that article as mentioned here. I have no idea how to start it.- 2406:7400:98:E812:641B:4F0D:329D:B41C ( talk) 13:00, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
I know I've seen something that indicates that where a navbox links to and the articles that a navbox is in should be the same (or as close as reasonably possible), Can someone please point me to the policy or essay? Naraht ( talk) 13:26, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
I just need to ask a quick question about reliable sources, specifically the usage of primary sources. Would it be ok, if at all, to include a citation to a primary source, specifically a blog post, for something small like a sentence mentioning an update, if there are no reliable secondary sources available? LordEnma8 ( talk) 14:14, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
I registered with JSTOR a ways back, but don't recall the procedure for doing so. Hence, I'm unable to add other research services, in particular, HeinOnline. So I need to know 1) where the list of resources is located (I'm interested in adding other resources as well) and 2) specifically what I need to do to register for HeinOnline. Thank you. Allreet ( talk) 16:28, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
I recently stumbled on this stub article on the unix/linux indent command. I am, in fact, the David Willcox mentioned in the second paragraph.
I'm amazed (maybe a bit overwhelmed) that my little side project/first big C program is still around (though much evolved through many hands) after more than 45 years.
I wonder if it would be appropriate add a short story about how and why the program came about in the first place. And if so, just how it would fit in the Wikipedia format. DAWillcox ( talk) 16:41, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
I was wondering what the process was for becoming a helper on the IRC channel for beginner users? I feel that this would be good for me, as I like the idea of sharing my knowledge with those who need it, in order to make Wikipedia and the world better places. Pablothepenguin ( talk) 19:04, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
I need help adding those cool little boxes with stuff about me and I also need help with adding a chart of my top 10 favorite rollercoaster so if anyone can help please message me on my talk page but you don’t have to. PokiBeni898 ( talk) 19:51, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
I didn't put spaces between the words, and I should have. 2600:1700:31D0:5D90:680D:ED2B:517B:D523 ( talk) 20:05, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
Hello, I'm a new user and would like to be included in the page on Homewood Illinois, Notable Residents. I am a composer and piano teacher born and raised in Homewood. I keep editing my information on the above named page, and it disappears within 24 hours. It may be because there is no page currently linked to my name here. Can you tell me how to compose a new page with information about my background? I have included references including being published in Keyboard Magazine in May of 1988 and a link to my entry on Ultravillage.com. Thanks for your help! Tom Parsons Tomparsongs ( talk) 22:32, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
I see conflicting years as to singer-songwriter Carly Simon. Wikipedia says 1943 where it once said 1945. Doing a search, both years show up in various websites. Her website does not reveal that info. Can you confirm which year it is? Her books all say 1945. 2601:645:B00:63A0:6413:CD2E:7F87:CC84 ( talk) 22:59, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
The Kimmorley name 110.143.194.241 ( talk) 23:34, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
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I was recently reading the List of railway electrification systems article, when I noticed an unexpected entry for a railway shortline that I live nearby. As far as I knew from seeing it in-person, this railway is not electrified. I dug into the citations and discovered that, at least at one point, the railway was, in fact, electrified. Working through Google Street View imagery, I was able to determine that it was de-electrified some time between 2008 and 2013.
So, in my mind, there is no doubt that while this line was once electrified, it no longer is. So, I removed the entry from the article (this was about two months ago). Another editor reverted my edit, asking me to source it, which was totally fair! However, further research brought me to the realization that there were no reliable sources noting the de-electrification of the line, even though it occured over a decade ago. In fact, the only decent source online about this railway at all is the one cited by the article, published in 1999! (at which time the line would've been electrified).
Thus, have I found a flaw in a policy prohibiting original research? It is obviously incorrect to include the line on an list of electrified railways, as it is not an electrified railway. However, there is a wiki-worthy source stating it is an electrified railway which was published when that was true, and no more recent source claiming to the contrary. The evidence I have to indicate it has been de-electrified is original research, and therefore not acceptable on Wikipedia. I'm not arguing in opposition of such a policy, in 99% of cases I think it is a positive one, but is this the cost of such a policy? Or am I just missing something somewhere? P1( talk / contributions) 05:43, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
This is a list of the power supply systems that are, or have been, used for railway electrification.(Emphasis added). Accordingly, this listing should remain. Cullen328 ( talk) 07:22, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
Good faith edits are not colored, however, bad faith edits are colored red. How does Wikipedia knows whether an edit is good faith or bad faith? Vitaium ( talk) 08:10, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
Please start an RfC to add instances of Love jihad to that article as mentioned here. I have no idea how to start it.- 2406:7400:98:E812:641B:4F0D:329D:B41C ( talk) 13:00, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
I know I've seen something that indicates that where a navbox links to and the articles that a navbox is in should be the same (or as close as reasonably possible), Can someone please point me to the policy or essay? Naraht ( talk) 13:26, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
I just need to ask a quick question about reliable sources, specifically the usage of primary sources. Would it be ok, if at all, to include a citation to a primary source, specifically a blog post, for something small like a sentence mentioning an update, if there are no reliable secondary sources available? LordEnma8 ( talk) 14:14, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
I registered with JSTOR a ways back, but don't recall the procedure for doing so. Hence, I'm unable to add other research services, in particular, HeinOnline. So I need to know 1) where the list of resources is located (I'm interested in adding other resources as well) and 2) specifically what I need to do to register for HeinOnline. Thank you. Allreet ( talk) 16:28, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
I recently stumbled on this stub article on the unix/linux indent command. I am, in fact, the David Willcox mentioned in the second paragraph.
I'm amazed (maybe a bit overwhelmed) that my little side project/first big C program is still around (though much evolved through many hands) after more than 45 years.
I wonder if it would be appropriate add a short story about how and why the program came about in the first place. And if so, just how it would fit in the Wikipedia format. DAWillcox ( talk) 16:41, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
I was wondering what the process was for becoming a helper on the IRC channel for beginner users? I feel that this would be good for me, as I like the idea of sharing my knowledge with those who need it, in order to make Wikipedia and the world better places. Pablothepenguin ( talk) 19:04, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
I need help adding those cool little boxes with stuff about me and I also need help with adding a chart of my top 10 favorite rollercoaster so if anyone can help please message me on my talk page but you don’t have to. PokiBeni898 ( talk) 19:51, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
I didn't put spaces between the words, and I should have. 2600:1700:31D0:5D90:680D:ED2B:517B:D523 ( talk) 20:05, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
Hello, I'm a new user and would like to be included in the page on Homewood Illinois, Notable Residents. I am a composer and piano teacher born and raised in Homewood. I keep editing my information on the above named page, and it disappears within 24 hours. It may be because there is no page currently linked to my name here. Can you tell me how to compose a new page with information about my background? I have included references including being published in Keyboard Magazine in May of 1988 and a link to my entry on Ultravillage.com. Thanks for your help! Tom Parsons Tomparsongs ( talk) 22:32, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
I see conflicting years as to singer-songwriter Carly Simon. Wikipedia says 1943 where it once said 1945. Doing a search, both years show up in various websites. Her website does not reveal that info. Can you confirm which year it is? Her books all say 1945. 2601:645:B00:63A0:6413:CD2E:7F87:CC84 ( talk) 22:59, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
The Kimmorley name 110.143.194.241 ( talk) 23:34, 2 May 2023 (UTC)