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There is a stray "N" written between "Soloist" and "SERGE". There are also a speck on "P" in "SYMPHONY". If there are any other abnormalities I'd be glad if any one of you could fix them, I know you have a keen eye for such details. I'm trying to get the article to FA. Cheers -
Wretchskull (
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09:39, 28 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Could the background of this logo be made transparent and the image be cropped appropriately (with the logo centred)? Thanks,
Graham (
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05:45, 7 November 2022 (UTC)reply
Hey
Snow Lion Fenian, so you want a new flag (or standard), but with the content of the shield (or arms) to the left? Do you have a preference as to which lions/fleur de lil/colorscheme to use? It doesn't make much of a difference to me, is just a different starting point. Cheers! --
Lommes (
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15:33, 8 November 2022 (UTC)reply
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Lommes: Thanks for asking! Well, I think it would be fitting for the the lions/fleur-de-lis/colour scheme (and indeed the flag ratio as well) on the new Standard to all match those of the 1406 version of the Standard to the upper-right. Given that that's how they're displayed on most other Wikimedia Files of the English Royal Standards from the medieval era, which I've added above for reference.
Snow Lion Fenian (
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18:26, 8 November 2022 (UTC)reply
Please convert all signatures to SVG. Note that the signatures of all other British monarchs and royal family members have been properly vectorized. Many thanks in advance to anyone who volunteers to do the job. Keivan.fTalk05:51, 6 October 2022 (UTC)reply
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Hey
Keivan.f, here is the lot. Except "VickyPR", the quality of the image doesn't allow for a conversion (at least not with my skills and patience). And as to the Duke of York, you have to find someone else to do it. I am not touching him, not even his signature, not even for the good of Wikipedia.--
Lommes (
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00:09, 8 November 2022 (UTC)reply
Lommes, thank you so much for the efforts. I really appreciate it. And I totally understand your unwillingness to do Andrew's signature. I mean, he is not particularly a favorite among the public at this point, for obvious reasons. I will probably have it nominated again in the future in case someone might be willing to do it for encyclopedic purposes. Again, thanks a lot. Keivan.fTalk05:07, 8 November 2022 (UTC)reply
So, from my side this is Done.
Keivan.f, if you have any further requests for changes or alterations, please let me know. If not, please mark this topic as {{tl|resolved|~~~~}}. Thanks! --
Lommes (
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15:02, 8 November 2022 (UTC)reply
{{resolved}}Lommes, yes, it appears that the work is done here thanks to you. I now mark it as resolved, and will bring up Victoria and Andrew's signature again at a later request. Many thanks. Keivan.fTalk16:37, 8 November 2022 (UTC)reply
Done Hey,
ArtSmir, conversion complete. The lion isn't perfect, but i was working from a very small image size. If you have any requests for changes, please tell me. If you are satisfied, please mark this as {{tl|resolved|~~~~}} . Also please replace the original images, they are used on about
~80 articles and
over 300 articles in all Wikipedias. I guess there is a template somewhere. But please, please, please, replace the PNGs with the new files, or ask someone who knows how to do it automatically (I don't). There are few things on Wikipedia I hate more than
the list of images which have SVG replacements, but where the PNG/JPG is still in wide use... Thanks! --
Lommes (
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18:57, 9 November 2022 (UTC)reply
It's already late, so I only made Oxbridge. Perhaps, if I find the time, I will do the others tomorrow or later in the week. Please,
Snow Lion Fenian, review and give feedback. I based both of them mainly on the photo you linked showing the actual flags. However, some comments: Oxford. I think it is pretty close to the picture, but the arms had a red border around the book, which the photographed flag lacks. If you want, I can make it yellow (excuse me, Or), as in the photo. Cambridge. The ermine (i think that's what these black spikes are called) change with every flag or coat I see. I used the arrangement on the photo. However, the closed book in the center of Cambridge clearly looks different in the photo, but it is hard to see what it actually looks like precisely. Accordingly, I just used the one on the coat of arms. Also, if you want a different lion length, i discovered these lions exist in XtraShort, S, M, L and Xtralong-Lion-Size. I used the Medium lion, as it most closely matched the photo. However, again, other depictions show L or even XL lions. Please advise on how to proceed further. --
Lommes (
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21:18, 8 November 2022 (UTC)reply
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Lommes: Thank you so much for taking this on! As for your questions, your version of the Cambridge University flag seems fine the way it is. Regarding the Oxford one... yes, perhaps it would be prudent to change the red border to a yellow one. And would you be willing to change the shade of yellow on all the objects to closer match the shade from the photo, as well as the exact shade of the blue background to that of the photo as well? Sorry about this, and thanks again.
Snow Lion Fenian (
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23:28, 8 November 2022 (UTC)reply
Snow Lion Fenian please check again. the "exact shade of the blue background" can't be derived from a photo (physics of light), but i tried my best. if you want it darker/lighter or more/less-saturated, please tell me. --
Lommes (
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11:44, 9 November 2022 (UTC)reply
I also made Bristol. On the provided photo many of the elements are simplified, look for example at the Sun, or the Waves. I used the exact elements from the coat of arms, as they already were there. If you want the more simplified version, i'd have to recreate them. Please tell me if this is okay, or you need any changes.--
Lommes (
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12:14, 9 November 2022 (UTC)reply
And finally East Anglia. The link you provided for the University of London gives "502 Bad Gateway", so I couldn't reach it. I also couldn't find a photo of the flag in use, so I have no reference whatsoever. So instead of creating a phantastical fake flag, I decided to skip it. All others should be done now.
Snow Lion Fenian, please review and give feedback. If everything is fine, please mark as {{tl|resolved|~~~~}} . Cheers!--
Lommes (
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15:24, 9 November 2022 (UTC)reply
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Lommes: Brilliant job! Thank you profusely for doing all of these. And regarding the University of London flag, sorry for the inconvenience with the link. I genuinely don't know what's gone wrong with it, considering it was working fine when I first put it there. I have a suggestion... try going onto this page
here, and click on "University of London" in the table of contents (or even try this fresh version of the other link
here). And if those don't work, then apologies in advance. Also, is there any chance you could also create the University of Roehampton flag as well, or is that link not working too? Again, sorry for the bother and thanks for all you've done.
Snow Lion Fenian (
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16:27, 9 November 2022 (UTC)reply
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Lommes: Thank you! And yes, now that I think of it, is there any chance you could enlarge the castle on the East Anglian flag, to bring it more into line with the size of the one from the link?
Snow Lion Fenian (
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17:21, 9 November 2022 (UTC)reply
Yes,
Snow Lion Fenian, of course. Is changed above. Tho we have to keep in mind that quite possibly "ivan sache" knows just as much or as little as us. A photo of the flag flying is most certainly an authoritative source, but some guy 18 years ago, from the Flags of the World site....??? His flag is also missing the three english flags on top of the castle, which the Coat of Arms quite clearly has, i have seen four different versions, all with flags. His is the only without them... --
Lommes (
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17:52, 9 November 2022 (UTC)reply
Hey
Snow Lion Fenian, i made the Edinburgh flag. Please note that the arms has black flags flying from the towers, the reference image has red flags. As I couldn't find a photo of an actual flag flying, i presumed the arms to be correct. Please review and give feedback. I also made Napier, but as it is so simple, I guess there is nothing to feedback. Not 100% sure yet, but i might have to leave for quite some time tomorrow, so depending on how that goes I might not be able to do Glasgow and/or Aberdeen. If i find time later tonight, I will try, tho. Cheers! --
Lommes (
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15:44, 10 November 2022 (UTC)reply
Here is Aberdeen. For me the PNG-renderer shows a problem where (in the upper right quarter of the flag) some of the red squares seem to bleed over into the yellow ones, as if there is one or two pixel wrong. This isn't present in the SVG, and I don't know what causes it. Perhaps someone who knows more about
librsvg can help? I made a note in the file description on Wikimedia Commons and listed it in the category "Pictures showing a librsvg bug".--
Lommes (
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18:36, 10 November 2022 (UTC)reply
I re-uploaded the flag with a different baseline resolution, but i don't think it has changed in a substantial way. I still see two pixels which should be yellow but actually are red. :-( --
Lommes (
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18:44, 10 November 2022 (UTC)reply
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Lommes: Amazing job as always, and once again my sincerest thanks for all your hard work in creating these flags for both the Scottish and English universities. You've really gone above and beyond. Take care!
Snow Lion Fenian (
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23:44, 11 November 2022 (UTC)reply
The blue shade is not consistent with the Wikipedia article, which specifies thar according to Russian law, hex #0032A0 / RGB 0–50–160 is the correct color. It's very slightly off. The red is completely correct, though (hex #DA291C / RGB 218–41–28). When this is fixed, the Russian flag on Wikipedia will be in complete agreement with the relevant laws. Also consider correcting files that are derivatives of the Russian flag, such as the Presidential standard of Russia, historical flags of Russia that have these colors, etc. --
108.160.120.110 (
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09:37, 7 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Can someone please redraw the above JPG file of the flag of the city of Stirling as SVG please, using elements from the SVG Scottish national flag and royal banner provided above. And I'd also ask that the stars on the new file be modified so that they look closer to how they do on the actual flag of Stirling (particularly the top and bottom ones), as seen on the Arms of Stirling
here, on which the flag is based. Thanks.
Snow Lion Fenian (
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18:39, 4 November 2022 (UTC)reply
Discussion
Coat of arms of Stirling
Flag of Stirling
Hey
Snow Lion Fenian, Done. I made the flag you requested. I also remade the Coat of Arms because the PNG was such low quality. However, there is an issue of color. The linked "Brasão_de_Stirlingshire" uses a dark blue background. A reference image i found on the Stirling Coucil website (
https://scprodweb.blob.core.windows.net/cache/0/5/5/9/4/1/0559412cba2a5a6f5d50d081ad637cc917bdf44f.jpg ) uses a very light blue background. I decided to split the difference and use the official blue of the Scottish flag. Please advise whether I should change it to any other blue. Also, if you are happy with my work, could you please check the 20 odd pages using the existing PNG arms (a list of these pages is on
File:Brasão_de_Stirlingshire.png) and replace it with the new SVG one? That would be just great. Thanks! --
Lommes (
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14:07, 12 November 2022 (UTC)reply
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Lommes: Those are fantastic, and many thanks again for taking the time to help out. Much obliged. And I can now confirm that I've replaced the PNG version of the arms on all relevant pages with your new SVG one as you asked. Take care!
Snow Lion Fenian (
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13:46, 13 November 2022 (UTC)reply
Hey
Panam2014, just so I understand properly: I think both eagles are the same, just the shield and the green block are different. Is that right? And your request, as I understand it, is for an eagle with the first shield (showing takbir and stars), but combined with the second green block (saying "Jumhuriyat al-`Iraq")? Am I correct? --
Lommes (
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15:08, 8 November 2022 (UTC)reply
After seven days of no reply from @
Graham11, and given that the original file is no longer in use and the article has been updated with my SVG replacement logo, I mark this as Done and {{resolved}} --
Lommes (
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13:53, 15 November 2022 (UTC)reply
As you can see, all of these can be created by placing the Dioceses' arms in the canton of the English flag template provided above (note that Gloucester is the only one out of this particular set that has the full arms on its flag, with the others displaying only the shield). Thanks.
Snow Lion Fenian (
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15:04, 15 November 2022 (UTC)reply
Background: The current symbols for
good articles and
featured content have been used since those systems were introduced way back in Wikipedia's early days. They have significant problems. The featured article icon is too
skeuomorphic, giving it an outdated look, and its excessive detail causes it to render poorly at small scale. The good article icon, meanwhile, has been adopted throughout the rest of Wikimedia (and in some places on Wikipedia) as the "support vote" icon, leading to conflicting usage. Far worse than the issues with them individually, however, is the fact that there is no shared visual language between them (the GA icon uses the norro style, and the FA icon does not use any style). When compounded by their overall lack of prominence (a separate issue that
we're trying to address), this has led to the unfortunate situation where many (perhaps most) non-editing readers could not tell you whether a star or a green badge is a higher distinction. Given how much effort we put into the GA/FA systems, there's more than a bit of tragic irony to that.
Process: This is the first stage in the process of redesigning the icons (after informal discussions in various places). Ideally, several proposals will be put forth that can be compared against the status quo in a more formal and widely-advertised round of !voting (similar to the process for the
MediaWiki logo redesign), with the winner adopted.
Design details: The redesigned icons could end up being anything from checkmarks (a la the Twitter verification badge) to a silver star for GAs to a multi-star system that begins with one star for stubs and increases thereafter; feel free to get creative.
Also, since the whole idea here is to unify the symbology, the redesign will need to include the associated symbols in addition to the main icons. You don't have to design them all now, but candidates with at least an articulated vision of what they should look like may be more likely to win support once we reach the formal !voting stage. Here are the current icons still in use that I could find (there may be a few more fringe ones):
Related icons
Former good article icon
Good article reassessment icon
Good article candidate icon
Former featured article icon
Former featured article candidate icon
Featured article candidate icon
Article for improvement icon
Good topic icon
Good topic candidate icon
Featured topic icon
Featured topic candidate icon
Former featured topic icon
Former featured topic candidate icon
In truth, the potential scope of this project could be a lot bigger, trying to unify all of the icons used anywhere on Wikipedia. However, recent attempts to do so
have failed, and their utility is questionable, given that most icons do not appear in reader-facing areas and thus have a vastly more limited reach. Redesigning these two icons is a more feasible task with clear and significant benefits for readers across tens of thousands of pages.
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Pbrks: Thanks for the tip. Since this request is specific to en-WP, I'd prefer the main discussion be hosted here, but I'll copy the request there and invite folks over. {{u|Sdkb}}talk21:38, 17 October 2020 (UTC)reply
Consider color blindness (esp. red-green): In data visualization circles, there is increasing awareness of how graphics should be crafted to allow color blind individuals to distinguish through
shading, what normally sighted individuals distinguish directly through color perception. (One can test shading in Photoshop etc by removing saturation.) It's my understanding that red-green color blindness is a common type, though not the only type of color blindness. Some color scales are better than others: see
Scientific American. —
RCraig09 (
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22:53, 17 October 2020 (UTC)reply
David Fuchs, the direct impetus for this request was a
tangential discussion at the Village Pump. I think there have been a few other "we ought to change this" offhand musings over the years that are mostly buried in archives at this point. But largely, as I lay out above, this is the ground floor. If you have thoughts about how to organize the process to ensure visibility/boost participation/etc., those are welcome. {{u|Sdkb}}talk22:09, 19 October 2020 (UTC)reply
You may want to start with an RfC (or, I guess, two parallel questions) on changing the icons in general to get a mandate for the change, as well as soliciting opinions on what changes people would like to see so any designers have a firmer grasp of what might be acceptable. Not like the original icons were chosen with a ton of deliberation (from what I can see at the WT:GA archives one editor unilaterally came up with the GA icon) but at this point I think you're going to have to get buy-in.
Der Wohltemperierte Fuchstalk00:16, 21 October 2020 (UTC)reply
David Fuchs, hmm, I'm not quite sure what form that RfC would take. Should it be a yes/no "should these be changed?" question at
WP:VPR, or an open-ended "What changes would you want to see?" brainstorming at
WP:VPI, or something in between? I don't want to hand over too much of designers' work to general editors, since I trust designers to know best when it comes to designing. {{u|Sdkb}}talk00:48, 21 October 2020 (UTC)reply
This is my passing opinion. There is a ooui icon called "articleCheck" () and this is what I think a "GA" icon should look similar to. Basically a sheet (representing a page) with a check on it. And in a green color instead of black. For the FA icon, a simple star/medal design on a sheet with an appropriate color would make sense to keep the two icons inline with each other. SInce I believe that most users could understand a star is more important than a check icon. Basic icons such as these are the only way to keep them readable when used as topicons.
Terasail[✉]17:00, 11 January 2021 (UTC)reply
Update: Mandate acquired
The formal
Village Pump proposal has been archived, and per
here, it successfully acquired a mandate for the icons to be redesigned, so I am removing the "on hold" box around this section. I'll leave it up to others to decide how precisely to proceed from here; I hope that someone steps up to take the lead on shepherding the process from here forward, since I'm not sure I can do it myself. This thread can be archived once (and only once) we've moved to the next stage. {{u|Sdkb}}talk22:09, 24 December 2020 (UTC)reply
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Ahmetlii: That's a much more ambitious but still underdeveloped proposal that's been sitting for a while; in my view, it would need a lot of work to become comprehensive enough to become useful, and I don't see that amount of work forthcoming or really worth the effort. I think we should focus on this one, much more feasible task that we have agreed to do, rather than dreaming about bringing all of Wikipedia in line with a universal standard that, realistically, is not likely to happen any time soon. {{u|Sdkb}}talk23:53, 31 December 2020 (UTC)reply
The icons should be changed to something the average reader is familiar with. The current icons are nice, but they're nice to Wikipedians. The average reader probably has no idea what this means. We should aim to use images which readers will understand. For example: silver star, gold star. A tick / double tick. Or something along those lines. It should be obvious to a reader what it symbolises.
ProcrastinatingReader (
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02:55, 20 March 2021 (UTC)reply
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Pbrks, there are some nice icons in that set; thanks for putting it together! I think the next step would be arranging a large-scale discussion for those and any other proposals. {{u|Sdkb}}talk16:53, 2 April 2021 (UTC)reply
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Tol's icons
Featured iconGood icon
I don't know if people still want to implement this, but I was working on some icons for personal use that render better at smaller sizes and recalled the village pump proposal to do something similar. I'm a terrible graphic designer, but I figured I'd post them here in case anybody is interested. I based them on Wikimedia's
OOUI icons; I converted the <path>s in the icons to more human-readable SVG elements and colored them based on
Wikimedia Design's color palette. I used a star for the featured icon because it is similar to the existing one, but used a check for the good icon so distinguish it from a support !vote icon. I plan to make more for A/B/C classes. My main problem is that I am unsure how to best represent former, former candidate, candidate, and reassessment icons. I'm currently thinking a cross for former, a question mark for candidate, and both combined in some way for former candidate. I have no good idea for reassessment — magnifying glass, maybe? I'd appreciate some other opinions on how these look and what to do. Thanks for your time!
Tol (
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00:31, 3 September 2021 (UTC)reply
All of the icons so far in small icon form: . I put something in the "start" icon instead of making it blank like the existing symbol (). As for "stub", I am unsure if I should model it off the existing symbol () and do a partial circle, or use something else like (perhaps too close to the list icon?).
Tol (
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17:41, 3 September 2021 (UTC)reply
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Tol: These are nice, although I'm not sold on a tick for GA. Question mark works well for candidates (presumably in the gold or green circles), and I don't see why reassessment couldn't use the same icon given it's an assessment of some sort in both cases. I'm not sure a former candidate icon is that important in the grand scheme of things. I would prefer stubs use a partial circle to lines, just so all article rating have a similar aesthetic which distinguishes them from lists.
CMD (
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15:57, 6 September 2021 (UTC)reply
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Chipmunkdavis: Thanks for the feedback. For the GA icon, I was trying to avoid a star like the FA icon (which would have accessibility problems) and a plus sign (some people thought having the same icon for support votes and good articles is confusing). I haven't been able to get the question mark to look good, but I think I'm close to getting it (I'll probably upload an FA candidate icon soon). I'll do the partial circle for stub. Thank you again!
Tol (
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contribs) @
18:48, 6 September 2021 (UTC)reply
Hi
Tol! Sorry, I'm just seeing this now. My first thought is that, as we saw with Pbrk's proposal, editors are instinctively resistant to design changes. We managed to eek out a mandate for the GA/FA icons, but I think any current proposal that also tries to handle other classes beyond that will unfortunately be dead on arrival. Regarding the GA/FA icons, I think we need something more fundamental. The biggest problem is still that there's nothing in particular signaling that FA is one step above GA. {{u|Sdkb}}talk18:56, 16 October 2021 (UTC)reply
I think personally that what we saw with Pbrk's proposal was a bunch of people who would oppose any change what so ever and were rightfully miffed that a discussion affecting over 40,000+ pages had small participation. JMHO
casualdejekyll20:40, 25 March 2022 (UTC)reply
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HapHaxion: I didn't see your comment, so apologies for interrupting, but I just made a first attempt. I used the Flag of England as a baseline, which roughly matches (and seemed a reasonable base). But there is another problem, I wanted @
Snow Lion Fenian to ask: What about the length/width of the outer bars. In the Coat of Arms the width of the outer bars is basically three times the width of long bars connecting the center square with the outer bars, and my SVG flag does the same. However, in the photo, it seems to me, these are subtly longer, perhaps 3.5 times or so. Can any of you see what I see? Or is it just the weird perspective? Also, HapHaxion, if you see anything to improve, please feel free to just change or overwrite my uploaded file. Apologies again for jumping into this.
Lommes (
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16:26, 17 November 2022 (UTC)reply
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Lommes: Fantastic job! And although I'm uncertain of the actual ratio of the flag in the photo myself, I have no problem trusting your judgement on this. Thanks again for your help, always appreciated!
Snow Lion Fenian (
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00:27, 18 November 2022 (UTC)reply
Please make some historical flags of the city of Gdansk.
Free City of Danzig (1807–1814). According to this
website, in Napoleon's time a flag with a pattée cross and a crown of leaves were introduced. Since the exact appearance of the crown is unknown, use a crown from the interwar period (in 1920 they defined this pattern as the restoration of the symbol of the first free city).
Free City of Danzig flag proposal (1807). Same symbols as above, but a blue background like the French flag.
Flag of the Free City of Danzig (1807–1814), blue version
Hey
Swiãtopôłk, i made both flags. Do you also want a coat of arms in this design? There is , currently used in the
Free City of Danzig (Napoleonic) article, but it has the wrong crown, according to what you wrote above, and it also has a subtly different shade of red. I took my shade of red from the Coat of Arms you provided, , which is just the tiniest bit darker than the red of the French flag. The blue I used is from the French flag, as requested. Also, the flag in the
Free City of Danzig (Napoleonic) article, , has the crosses bordered in black. I followed the gif you provided, , and left them unbordered. Please review and give feedback.--
Lommes (
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22:56, 17 November 2022 (UTC)reply
Will someone please create an SVG file of the flag of St Austell Parish,
Cornwall, as seen and described on this page
here. As you can see, it includes a map of Cornwall, which I've provided a template for above. Thanks.
Snow Lion Fenian (
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15:32, 15 November 2022 (UTC)reply
Hey
Snow Lion Fenian, i made the flag. Done I am very unsure about the background color. The reference image you provided, showing the real flag flying, shows something like a royal blue, perhaps a bit less saturated, which is roughly what I used in my recreation. However,
this image, also from the parish itself, shows a more purple hue. Perhaps is still a blue, but it has much more red elements than the flag photo (which to me looks like a more or less pure blue). I couldn't find anything discussing the hue of the flag or anything local (like the town itself) using a similar hue. So, ultimately, this is my best guess. Please give me your opinion. As to ratio, I think 2:1 fits best with what we see in the flying flag. As always, please review and give feedback. Cheers! --
Lommes (
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14:24, 20 November 2022 (UTC)reply
And now I found something regarding the colour:
this image, also released by the parish, has the word "strength" in a specific blue tone that is very similar, and to me suggests it might well be the right one. So I changed the flag accordingly. Still, if you disagree, or think my reasoning isn't well grounded, please tell me. Cheers! --
Lommes (
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14:29, 20 November 2022 (UTC)reply
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Lommes: Thanks as alway! And yes, I do trust your logic and reasoning behind your choice of the specific shade of blue. That's actually a rather clever interpretation. Much obliged!
Snow Lion Fenian (
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15:02, 20 November 2022 (UTC)reply
Done, @
Snow Lion Fenian, based on the files and images provided, please check them and please state any issues with such images; see gallery below:
Bangor
St Asaph
St Davids
Swansea and Brecon
Done, @
The C of E, also created images of your request, hope these suit your request. Although to be honest, re-reading the source you provided it could be interpreted that the use of shields on English diocese flags, may have lead to the production of the early version of St Davids flag itself rather than a version with a diocese shield? Unless I read that incorrectly? But it was a simple task so don't mind if they're not used. Gallery below:
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DankJae: Thank you so much, those are terrific! Though, in the spirit of @
The C of E:'s request, perhaps you could also create files called "Flag of St David (early) with Diocese of Llandaff Shield in Canton" and "Flag of St David (early) with Diocese of Monmouth Shield in Canton", by placing the shields provided below in the canton of the inverted St. David's Cross? Sorry about this, the only reason those two Dioceses weren't part of my own original request is because I can't seem to find any modern flag for them anywhere online. But I see no reason why they shouldn't be covered by TCOE's own request. If it's okay?
Snow Lion Fenian (
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02:12, 20 November 2022 (UTC)reply
Arms of the Diocese of Llandaff
Arms of the Diocese of Monmouth
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Snow Lion Fenian:, Done, no problem, although most credit goes to the original contributors of the arms above :D. Here are the remaining two:
Could someone please create an SVG file of the shield from the arms of Wrexham Glyndŵr University, as seen
here, using the SVG lion and book templates provided above (though if anyone is aware of any other SVG templates that could work better, then please feel free to improvise). And, while we're here, perhaps the flag of the University could be created as well, which is a banner of the University's arms, as seen
here. Thanks.
Snow Lion Fenian (
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14:21, 13 November 2022 (UTC)reply
Discussion
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Snow Lion Fenian: Done as shown below, (mainly) based on the templates you've provided, if there are any issues be free to raise them, can you also check the descriptions and categories of the files, many thanks. DankJae23:37, 25 November 2022 (UTC)reply
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archive of requests for 2021.
Please do not edit the contents of this page. You can submit new requests here.
There is a stray "N" written between "Soloist" and "SERGE". There are also a speck on "P" in "SYMPHONY". If there are any other abnormalities I'd be glad if any one of you could fix them, I know you have a keen eye for such details. I'm trying to get the article to FA. Cheers -
Wretchskull (
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09:39, 28 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Could the background of this logo be made transparent and the image be cropped appropriately (with the logo centred)? Thanks,
Graham (
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05:45, 7 November 2022 (UTC)reply
Hey
Snow Lion Fenian, so you want a new flag (or standard), but with the content of the shield (or arms) to the left? Do you have a preference as to which lions/fleur de lil/colorscheme to use? It doesn't make much of a difference to me, is just a different starting point. Cheers! --
Lommes (
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15:33, 8 November 2022 (UTC)reply
@
Lommes: Thanks for asking! Well, I think it would be fitting for the the lions/fleur-de-lis/colour scheme (and indeed the flag ratio as well) on the new Standard to all match those of the 1406 version of the Standard to the upper-right. Given that that's how they're displayed on most other Wikimedia Files of the English Royal Standards from the medieval era, which I've added above for reference.
Snow Lion Fenian (
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18:26, 8 November 2022 (UTC)reply
Please convert all signatures to SVG. Note that the signatures of all other British monarchs and royal family members have been properly vectorized. Many thanks in advance to anyone who volunteers to do the job. Keivan.fTalk05:51, 6 October 2022 (UTC)reply
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Hey
Keivan.f, here is the lot. Except "VickyPR", the quality of the image doesn't allow for a conversion (at least not with my skills and patience). And as to the Duke of York, you have to find someone else to do it. I am not touching him, not even his signature, not even for the good of Wikipedia.--
Lommes (
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00:09, 8 November 2022 (UTC)reply
Lommes, thank you so much for the efforts. I really appreciate it. And I totally understand your unwillingness to do Andrew's signature. I mean, he is not particularly a favorite among the public at this point, for obvious reasons. I will probably have it nominated again in the future in case someone might be willing to do it for encyclopedic purposes. Again, thanks a lot. Keivan.fTalk05:07, 8 November 2022 (UTC)reply
So, from my side this is Done.
Keivan.f, if you have any further requests for changes or alterations, please let me know. If not, please mark this topic as {{tl|resolved|~~~~}}. Thanks! --
Lommes (
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15:02, 8 November 2022 (UTC)reply
{{resolved}}Lommes, yes, it appears that the work is done here thanks to you. I now mark it as resolved, and will bring up Victoria and Andrew's signature again at a later request. Many thanks. Keivan.fTalk16:37, 8 November 2022 (UTC)reply
Done Hey,
ArtSmir, conversion complete. The lion isn't perfect, but i was working from a very small image size. If you have any requests for changes, please tell me. If you are satisfied, please mark this as {{tl|resolved|~~~~}} . Also please replace the original images, they are used on about
~80 articles and
over 300 articles in all Wikipedias. I guess there is a template somewhere. But please, please, please, replace the PNGs with the new files, or ask someone who knows how to do it automatically (I don't). There are few things on Wikipedia I hate more than
the list of images which have SVG replacements, but where the PNG/JPG is still in wide use... Thanks! --
Lommes (
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18:57, 9 November 2022 (UTC)reply
It's already late, so I only made Oxbridge. Perhaps, if I find the time, I will do the others tomorrow or later in the week. Please,
Snow Lion Fenian, review and give feedback. I based both of them mainly on the photo you linked showing the actual flags. However, some comments: Oxford. I think it is pretty close to the picture, but the arms had a red border around the book, which the photographed flag lacks. If you want, I can make it yellow (excuse me, Or), as in the photo. Cambridge. The ermine (i think that's what these black spikes are called) change with every flag or coat I see. I used the arrangement on the photo. However, the closed book in the center of Cambridge clearly looks different in the photo, but it is hard to see what it actually looks like precisely. Accordingly, I just used the one on the coat of arms. Also, if you want a different lion length, i discovered these lions exist in XtraShort, S, M, L and Xtralong-Lion-Size. I used the Medium lion, as it most closely matched the photo. However, again, other depictions show L or even XL lions. Please advise on how to proceed further. --
Lommes (
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21:18, 8 November 2022 (UTC)reply
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Lommes: Thank you so much for taking this on! As for your questions, your version of the Cambridge University flag seems fine the way it is. Regarding the Oxford one... yes, perhaps it would be prudent to change the red border to a yellow one. And would you be willing to change the shade of yellow on all the objects to closer match the shade from the photo, as well as the exact shade of the blue background to that of the photo as well? Sorry about this, and thanks again.
Snow Lion Fenian (
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23:28, 8 November 2022 (UTC)reply
Snow Lion Fenian please check again. the "exact shade of the blue background" can't be derived from a photo (physics of light), but i tried my best. if you want it darker/lighter or more/less-saturated, please tell me. --
Lommes (
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11:44, 9 November 2022 (UTC)reply
I also made Bristol. On the provided photo many of the elements are simplified, look for example at the Sun, or the Waves. I used the exact elements from the coat of arms, as they already were there. If you want the more simplified version, i'd have to recreate them. Please tell me if this is okay, or you need any changes.--
Lommes (
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12:14, 9 November 2022 (UTC)reply
And finally East Anglia. The link you provided for the University of London gives "502 Bad Gateway", so I couldn't reach it. I also couldn't find a photo of the flag in use, so I have no reference whatsoever. So instead of creating a phantastical fake flag, I decided to skip it. All others should be done now.
Snow Lion Fenian, please review and give feedback. If everything is fine, please mark as {{tl|resolved|~~~~}} . Cheers!--
Lommes (
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15:24, 9 November 2022 (UTC)reply
@
Lommes: Brilliant job! Thank you profusely for doing all of these. And regarding the University of London flag, sorry for the inconvenience with the link. I genuinely don't know what's gone wrong with it, considering it was working fine when I first put it there. I have a suggestion... try going onto this page
here, and click on "University of London" in the table of contents (or even try this fresh version of the other link
here). And if those don't work, then apologies in advance. Also, is there any chance you could also create the University of Roehampton flag as well, or is that link not working too? Again, sorry for the bother and thanks for all you've done.
Snow Lion Fenian (
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16:27, 9 November 2022 (UTC)reply
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Lommes: Thank you! And yes, now that I think of it, is there any chance you could enlarge the castle on the East Anglian flag, to bring it more into line with the size of the one from the link?
Snow Lion Fenian (
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17:21, 9 November 2022 (UTC)reply
Yes,
Snow Lion Fenian, of course. Is changed above. Tho we have to keep in mind that quite possibly "ivan sache" knows just as much or as little as us. A photo of the flag flying is most certainly an authoritative source, but some guy 18 years ago, from the Flags of the World site....??? His flag is also missing the three english flags on top of the castle, which the Coat of Arms quite clearly has, i have seen four different versions, all with flags. His is the only without them... --
Lommes (
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17:52, 9 November 2022 (UTC)reply
Hey
Snow Lion Fenian, i made the Edinburgh flag. Please note that the arms has black flags flying from the towers, the reference image has red flags. As I couldn't find a photo of an actual flag flying, i presumed the arms to be correct. Please review and give feedback. I also made Napier, but as it is so simple, I guess there is nothing to feedback. Not 100% sure yet, but i might have to leave for quite some time tomorrow, so depending on how that goes I might not be able to do Glasgow and/or Aberdeen. If i find time later tonight, I will try, tho. Cheers! --
Lommes (
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15:44, 10 November 2022 (UTC)reply
Here is Aberdeen. For me the PNG-renderer shows a problem where (in the upper right quarter of the flag) some of the red squares seem to bleed over into the yellow ones, as if there is one or two pixel wrong. This isn't present in the SVG, and I don't know what causes it. Perhaps someone who knows more about
librsvg can help? I made a note in the file description on Wikimedia Commons and listed it in the category "Pictures showing a librsvg bug".--
Lommes (
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18:36, 10 November 2022 (UTC)reply
I re-uploaded the flag with a different baseline resolution, but i don't think it has changed in a substantial way. I still see two pixels which should be yellow but actually are red. :-( --
Lommes (
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18:44, 10 November 2022 (UTC)reply
@
Lommes: Amazing job as always, and once again my sincerest thanks for all your hard work in creating these flags for both the Scottish and English universities. You've really gone above and beyond. Take care!
Snow Lion Fenian (
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23:44, 11 November 2022 (UTC)reply
The blue shade is not consistent with the Wikipedia article, which specifies thar according to Russian law, hex #0032A0 / RGB 0–50–160 is the correct color. It's very slightly off. The red is completely correct, though (hex #DA291C / RGB 218–41–28). When this is fixed, the Russian flag on Wikipedia will be in complete agreement with the relevant laws. Also consider correcting files that are derivatives of the Russian flag, such as the Presidential standard of Russia, historical flags of Russia that have these colors, etc. --
108.160.120.110 (
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09:37, 7 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Can someone please redraw the above JPG file of the flag of the city of Stirling as SVG please, using elements from the SVG Scottish national flag and royal banner provided above. And I'd also ask that the stars on the new file be modified so that they look closer to how they do on the actual flag of Stirling (particularly the top and bottom ones), as seen on the Arms of Stirling
here, on which the flag is based. Thanks.
Snow Lion Fenian (
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18:39, 4 November 2022 (UTC)reply
Discussion
Coat of arms of Stirling
Flag of Stirling
Hey
Snow Lion Fenian, Done. I made the flag you requested. I also remade the Coat of Arms because the PNG was such low quality. However, there is an issue of color. The linked "Brasão_de_Stirlingshire" uses a dark blue background. A reference image i found on the Stirling Coucil website (
https://scprodweb.blob.core.windows.net/cache/0/5/5/9/4/1/0559412cba2a5a6f5d50d081ad637cc917bdf44f.jpg ) uses a very light blue background. I decided to split the difference and use the official blue of the Scottish flag. Please advise whether I should change it to any other blue. Also, if you are happy with my work, could you please check the 20 odd pages using the existing PNG arms (a list of these pages is on
File:Brasão_de_Stirlingshire.png) and replace it with the new SVG one? That would be just great. Thanks! --
Lommes (
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14:07, 12 November 2022 (UTC)reply
@
Lommes: Those are fantastic, and many thanks again for taking the time to help out. Much obliged. And I can now confirm that I've replaced the PNG version of the arms on all relevant pages with your new SVG one as you asked. Take care!
Snow Lion Fenian (
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13:46, 13 November 2022 (UTC)reply
Hey
Panam2014, just so I understand properly: I think both eagles are the same, just the shield and the green block are different. Is that right? And your request, as I understand it, is for an eagle with the first shield (showing takbir and stars), but combined with the second green block (saying "Jumhuriyat al-`Iraq")? Am I correct? --
Lommes (
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15:08, 8 November 2022 (UTC)reply
After seven days of no reply from @
Graham11, and given that the original file is no longer in use and the article has been updated with my SVG replacement logo, I mark this as Done and {{resolved}} --
Lommes (
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13:53, 15 November 2022 (UTC)reply
As you can see, all of these can be created by placing the Dioceses' arms in the canton of the English flag template provided above (note that Gloucester is the only one out of this particular set that has the full arms on its flag, with the others displaying only the shield). Thanks.
Snow Lion Fenian (
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15:04, 15 November 2022 (UTC)reply
Background: The current symbols for
good articles and
featured content have been used since those systems were introduced way back in Wikipedia's early days. They have significant problems. The featured article icon is too
skeuomorphic, giving it an outdated look, and its excessive detail causes it to render poorly at small scale. The good article icon, meanwhile, has been adopted throughout the rest of Wikimedia (and in some places on Wikipedia) as the "support vote" icon, leading to conflicting usage. Far worse than the issues with them individually, however, is the fact that there is no shared visual language between them (the GA icon uses the norro style, and the FA icon does not use any style). When compounded by their overall lack of prominence (a separate issue that
we're trying to address), this has led to the unfortunate situation where many (perhaps most) non-editing readers could not tell you whether a star or a green badge is a higher distinction. Given how much effort we put into the GA/FA systems, there's more than a bit of tragic irony to that.
Process: This is the first stage in the process of redesigning the icons (after informal discussions in various places). Ideally, several proposals will be put forth that can be compared against the status quo in a more formal and widely-advertised round of !voting (similar to the process for the
MediaWiki logo redesign), with the winner adopted.
Design details: The redesigned icons could end up being anything from checkmarks (a la the Twitter verification badge) to a silver star for GAs to a multi-star system that begins with one star for stubs and increases thereafter; feel free to get creative.
Also, since the whole idea here is to unify the symbology, the redesign will need to include the associated symbols in addition to the main icons. You don't have to design them all now, but candidates with at least an articulated vision of what they should look like may be more likely to win support once we reach the formal !voting stage. Here are the current icons still in use that I could find (there may be a few more fringe ones):
Related icons
Former good article icon
Good article reassessment icon
Good article candidate icon
Former featured article icon
Former featured article candidate icon
Featured article candidate icon
Article for improvement icon
Good topic icon
Good topic candidate icon
Featured topic icon
Featured topic candidate icon
Former featured topic icon
Former featured topic candidate icon
In truth, the potential scope of this project could be a lot bigger, trying to unify all of the icons used anywhere on Wikipedia. However, recent attempts to do so
have failed, and their utility is questionable, given that most icons do not appear in reader-facing areas and thus have a vastly more limited reach. Redesigning these two icons is a more feasible task with clear and significant benefits for readers across tens of thousands of pages.
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Pbrks: Thanks for the tip. Since this request is specific to en-WP, I'd prefer the main discussion be hosted here, but I'll copy the request there and invite folks over. {{u|Sdkb}}talk21:38, 17 October 2020 (UTC)reply
Consider color blindness (esp. red-green): In data visualization circles, there is increasing awareness of how graphics should be crafted to allow color blind individuals to distinguish through
shading, what normally sighted individuals distinguish directly through color perception. (One can test shading in Photoshop etc by removing saturation.) It's my understanding that red-green color blindness is a common type, though not the only type of color blindness. Some color scales are better than others: see
Scientific American. —
RCraig09 (
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22:53, 17 October 2020 (UTC)reply
David Fuchs, the direct impetus for this request was a
tangential discussion at the Village Pump. I think there have been a few other "we ought to change this" offhand musings over the years that are mostly buried in archives at this point. But largely, as I lay out above, this is the ground floor. If you have thoughts about how to organize the process to ensure visibility/boost participation/etc., those are welcome. {{u|Sdkb}}talk22:09, 19 October 2020 (UTC)reply
You may want to start with an RfC (or, I guess, two parallel questions) on changing the icons in general to get a mandate for the change, as well as soliciting opinions on what changes people would like to see so any designers have a firmer grasp of what might be acceptable. Not like the original icons were chosen with a ton of deliberation (from what I can see at the WT:GA archives one editor unilaterally came up with the GA icon) but at this point I think you're going to have to get buy-in.
Der Wohltemperierte Fuchstalk00:16, 21 October 2020 (UTC)reply
David Fuchs, hmm, I'm not quite sure what form that RfC would take. Should it be a yes/no "should these be changed?" question at
WP:VPR, or an open-ended "What changes would you want to see?" brainstorming at
WP:VPI, or something in between? I don't want to hand over too much of designers' work to general editors, since I trust designers to know best when it comes to designing. {{u|Sdkb}}talk00:48, 21 October 2020 (UTC)reply
This is my passing opinion. There is a ooui icon called "articleCheck" () and this is what I think a "GA" icon should look similar to. Basically a sheet (representing a page) with a check on it. And in a green color instead of black. For the FA icon, a simple star/medal design on a sheet with an appropriate color would make sense to keep the two icons inline with each other. SInce I believe that most users could understand a star is more important than a check icon. Basic icons such as these are the only way to keep them readable when used as topicons.
Terasail[✉]17:00, 11 January 2021 (UTC)reply
Update: Mandate acquired
The formal
Village Pump proposal has been archived, and per
here, it successfully acquired a mandate for the icons to be redesigned, so I am removing the "on hold" box around this section. I'll leave it up to others to decide how precisely to proceed from here; I hope that someone steps up to take the lead on shepherding the process from here forward, since I'm not sure I can do it myself. This thread can be archived once (and only once) we've moved to the next stage. {{u|Sdkb}}talk22:09, 24 December 2020 (UTC)reply
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Ahmetlii: That's a much more ambitious but still underdeveloped proposal that's been sitting for a while; in my view, it would need a lot of work to become comprehensive enough to become useful, and I don't see that amount of work forthcoming or really worth the effort. I think we should focus on this one, much more feasible task that we have agreed to do, rather than dreaming about bringing all of Wikipedia in line with a universal standard that, realistically, is not likely to happen any time soon. {{u|Sdkb}}talk23:53, 31 December 2020 (UTC)reply
The icons should be changed to something the average reader is familiar with. The current icons are nice, but they're nice to Wikipedians. The average reader probably has no idea what this means. We should aim to use images which readers will understand. For example: silver star, gold star. A tick / double tick. Or something along those lines. It should be obvious to a reader what it symbolises.
ProcrastinatingReader (
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02:55, 20 March 2021 (UTC)reply
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Pbrks, there are some nice icons in that set; thanks for putting it together! I think the next step would be arranging a large-scale discussion for those and any other proposals. {{u|Sdkb}}talk16:53, 2 April 2021 (UTC)reply
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Tol's icons
Featured iconGood icon
I don't know if people still want to implement this, but I was working on some icons for personal use that render better at smaller sizes and recalled the village pump proposal to do something similar. I'm a terrible graphic designer, but I figured I'd post them here in case anybody is interested. I based them on Wikimedia's
OOUI icons; I converted the <path>s in the icons to more human-readable SVG elements and colored them based on
Wikimedia Design's color palette. I used a star for the featured icon because it is similar to the existing one, but used a check for the good icon so distinguish it from a support !vote icon. I plan to make more for A/B/C classes. My main problem is that I am unsure how to best represent former, former candidate, candidate, and reassessment icons. I'm currently thinking a cross for former, a question mark for candidate, and both combined in some way for former candidate. I have no good idea for reassessment — magnifying glass, maybe? I'd appreciate some other opinions on how these look and what to do. Thanks for your time!
Tol (
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00:31, 3 September 2021 (UTC)reply
All of the icons so far in small icon form: . I put something in the "start" icon instead of making it blank like the existing symbol (). As for "stub", I am unsure if I should model it off the existing symbol () and do a partial circle, or use something else like (perhaps too close to the list icon?).
Tol (
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17:41, 3 September 2021 (UTC)reply
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Tol: These are nice, although I'm not sold on a tick for GA. Question mark works well for candidates (presumably in the gold or green circles), and I don't see why reassessment couldn't use the same icon given it's an assessment of some sort in both cases. I'm not sure a former candidate icon is that important in the grand scheme of things. I would prefer stubs use a partial circle to lines, just so all article rating have a similar aesthetic which distinguishes them from lists.
CMD (
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15:57, 6 September 2021 (UTC)reply
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Chipmunkdavis: Thanks for the feedback. For the GA icon, I was trying to avoid a star like the FA icon (which would have accessibility problems) and a plus sign (some people thought having the same icon for support votes and good articles is confusing). I haven't been able to get the question mark to look good, but I think I'm close to getting it (I'll probably upload an FA candidate icon soon). I'll do the partial circle for stub. Thank you again!
Tol (
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18:48, 6 September 2021 (UTC)reply
Hi
Tol! Sorry, I'm just seeing this now. My first thought is that, as we saw with Pbrk's proposal, editors are instinctively resistant to design changes. We managed to eek out a mandate for the GA/FA icons, but I think any current proposal that also tries to handle other classes beyond that will unfortunately be dead on arrival. Regarding the GA/FA icons, I think we need something more fundamental. The biggest problem is still that there's nothing in particular signaling that FA is one step above GA. {{u|Sdkb}}talk18:56, 16 October 2021 (UTC)reply
I think personally that what we saw with Pbrk's proposal was a bunch of people who would oppose any change what so ever and were rightfully miffed that a discussion affecting over 40,000+ pages had small participation. JMHO
casualdejekyll20:40, 25 March 2022 (UTC)reply
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HapHaxion: I didn't see your comment, so apologies for interrupting, but I just made a first attempt. I used the Flag of England as a baseline, which roughly matches (and seemed a reasonable base). But there is another problem, I wanted @
Snow Lion Fenian to ask: What about the length/width of the outer bars. In the Coat of Arms the width of the outer bars is basically three times the width of long bars connecting the center square with the outer bars, and my SVG flag does the same. However, in the photo, it seems to me, these are subtly longer, perhaps 3.5 times or so. Can any of you see what I see? Or is it just the weird perspective? Also, HapHaxion, if you see anything to improve, please feel free to just change or overwrite my uploaded file. Apologies again for jumping into this.
Lommes (
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16:26, 17 November 2022 (UTC)reply
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Lommes: Fantastic job! And although I'm uncertain of the actual ratio of the flag in the photo myself, I have no problem trusting your judgement on this. Thanks again for your help, always appreciated!
Snow Lion Fenian (
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00:27, 18 November 2022 (UTC)reply
Please make some historical flags of the city of Gdansk.
Free City of Danzig (1807–1814). According to this
website, in Napoleon's time a flag with a pattée cross and a crown of leaves were introduced. Since the exact appearance of the crown is unknown, use a crown from the interwar period (in 1920 they defined this pattern as the restoration of the symbol of the first free city).
Free City of Danzig flag proposal (1807). Same symbols as above, but a blue background like the French flag.
Flag of the Free City of Danzig (1807–1814), blue version
Hey
Swiãtopôłk, i made both flags. Do you also want a coat of arms in this design? There is , currently used in the
Free City of Danzig (Napoleonic) article, but it has the wrong crown, according to what you wrote above, and it also has a subtly different shade of red. I took my shade of red from the Coat of Arms you provided, , which is just the tiniest bit darker than the red of the French flag. The blue I used is from the French flag, as requested. Also, the flag in the
Free City of Danzig (Napoleonic) article, , has the crosses bordered in black. I followed the gif you provided, , and left them unbordered. Please review and give feedback.--
Lommes (
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22:56, 17 November 2022 (UTC)reply
Will someone please create an SVG file of the flag of St Austell Parish,
Cornwall, as seen and described on this page
here. As you can see, it includes a map of Cornwall, which I've provided a template for above. Thanks.
Snow Lion Fenian (
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15:32, 15 November 2022 (UTC)reply
Hey
Snow Lion Fenian, i made the flag. Done I am very unsure about the background color. The reference image you provided, showing the real flag flying, shows something like a royal blue, perhaps a bit less saturated, which is roughly what I used in my recreation. However,
this image, also from the parish itself, shows a more purple hue. Perhaps is still a blue, but it has much more red elements than the flag photo (which to me looks like a more or less pure blue). I couldn't find anything discussing the hue of the flag or anything local (like the town itself) using a similar hue. So, ultimately, this is my best guess. Please give me your opinion. As to ratio, I think 2:1 fits best with what we see in the flying flag. As always, please review and give feedback. Cheers! --
Lommes (
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14:24, 20 November 2022 (UTC)reply
And now I found something regarding the colour:
this image, also released by the parish, has the word "strength" in a specific blue tone that is very similar, and to me suggests it might well be the right one. So I changed the flag accordingly. Still, if you disagree, or think my reasoning isn't well grounded, please tell me. Cheers! --
Lommes (
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14:29, 20 November 2022 (UTC)reply
@
Lommes: Thanks as alway! And yes, I do trust your logic and reasoning behind your choice of the specific shade of blue. That's actually a rather clever interpretation. Much obliged!
Snow Lion Fenian (
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15:02, 20 November 2022 (UTC)reply
Done, @
Snow Lion Fenian, based on the files and images provided, please check them and please state any issues with such images; see gallery below:
Bangor
St Asaph
St Davids
Swansea and Brecon
Done, @
The C of E, also created images of your request, hope these suit your request. Although to be honest, re-reading the source you provided it could be interpreted that the use of shields on English diocese flags, may have lead to the production of the early version of St Davids flag itself rather than a version with a diocese shield? Unless I read that incorrectly? But it was a simple task so don't mind if they're not used. Gallery below:
@
DankJae: Thank you so much, those are terrific! Though, in the spirit of @
The C of E:'s request, perhaps you could also create files called "Flag of St David (early) with Diocese of Llandaff Shield in Canton" and "Flag of St David (early) with Diocese of Monmouth Shield in Canton", by placing the shields provided below in the canton of the inverted St. David's Cross? Sorry about this, the only reason those two Dioceses weren't part of my own original request is because I can't seem to find any modern flag for them anywhere online. But I see no reason why they shouldn't be covered by TCOE's own request. If it's okay?
Snow Lion Fenian (
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02:12, 20 November 2022 (UTC)reply
Arms of the Diocese of Llandaff
Arms of the Diocese of Monmouth
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Snow Lion Fenian:, Done, no problem, although most credit goes to the original contributors of the arms above :D. Here are the remaining two:
Could someone please create an SVG file of the shield from the arms of Wrexham Glyndŵr University, as seen
here, using the SVG lion and book templates provided above (though if anyone is aware of any other SVG templates that could work better, then please feel free to improvise). And, while we're here, perhaps the flag of the University could be created as well, which is a banner of the University's arms, as seen
here. Thanks.
Snow Lion Fenian (
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14:21, 13 November 2022 (UTC)reply
Discussion
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Snow Lion Fenian: Done as shown below, (mainly) based on the templates you've provided, if there are any issues be free to raise them, can you also check the descriptions and categories of the files, many thanks. DankJae23:37, 25 November 2022 (UTC)reply