The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Fastily ( talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 06:05, 15 September 2018 (UTC)
According to [1], this was written some time just before March 1976, so if it was published without a copyright notice, it is public domain. I don't know that we have any evidence of that, though. B ( talk) 00:28, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
The result of the discussion was: delete. It was closed as "deleted" by Fastily. Jo-Jo Eumerus ( talk, contributions) 10:14, 15 September 2018 (UTC)
No evidence these are PD. Some similar articles (not this one) were published by Hoving in months prior to March 1976 [2], but these were presumably later since it's not mentioned in this article. We also have no idea whether they had a copyright notice. B ( talk) 00:33, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Fastily ( talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 06:05, 15 September 2018 (UTC)
1935 mugshot, apparently created by the State of Colorado which can hold copyright. It's unclear when this was first published. If it was c. 1935, it's almost certainly public domain. If it was recent, this needs an appropriate fair use rationale to be kept. — Guan aco 08:07, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
One likely possibility is that the mugshot was kept as a state record and not actually published until recently. If so, it's copyrighted. — Guan aco 02:14, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
The result of the discussion was: Remove from National Institute of Electronics & Information Technology. Historical precedent on WP:NFCC#8 questions is that older logos are not allowed unless there is some dedicated discussion of them. Jo-Jo Eumerus ( talk, contributions) 08:24, 15 September 2018 (UTC)
Non-free logo that is being used as primary identification in National Institute of Electronics & Information Technology. there are two other uses claimed but one is a redirect and the other doe snot actually use the images. The primary identification is however being done performed with File:NIELIT Logo.jpg. This is a violation of WP:NFCC#3a as we do not need two logos for identification. this is especially true when it is not at all clear that this is a organisational logo. The source URL provided https://www.nielit.gov.in/ doe not work. Using HTTP instead of HTTPS does resolve but http://www.nielit.gov.in/ does not seem to have this logo anywhere. As such WP:NFCC#10a is not met either. Whpq ( talk) 18:43, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Fastily ( talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 06:05, 15 September 2018 (UTC)
Very large non-free image (1.2Mpx). The question is keep? / reduce? / delete? I've set for no reduce for the purpose of this discussion. Allowing the facility to "zoom in", somewhat goes against NF policy. The need for text is also questionable as WP:NFC says An original, high resolution image (that can be reasonably scaled down to maintain overall artistic and critical details) may lose some text detail Ronhjones (Talk) 19:29, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted as G7 by Jo-Jo Eumerus ( talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 10:08, 15 September 2018 (UTC)
tagged OTRS received for over 7 months. After reviewing the associated ticket, I think it is unlikely that permission will be confirmed FASTILY 18:46, 21 July 2018 (UTC)
Were these photos taken by a US federal employee in the course of their duties? If so then per Title 17, Chapter 1, Section 105 of the US Code it is automatically in the public domain. If not, I need some information regarding who took the photos (if known) and when exactly they were taken. Regardless, it is likely that any possible copyright on these images has expired but I'd like to be certain. Thank you and if you have any questions please let me know.
Yours sincerely, Patrick Williams Permissions ticket number: Ticket#2018011110009211
And then I sent this:
RE: [Ticket#2018011110009211] FW: Licencing of images for Wikipedia Bob Watson Permissions (permissions@wikimedia.org) Hi Patrick. I can't get hold of Rene. It's possible he is on holiday or snowed in. The image is from a world war 2 device. The whole document is about world war 2 devices. Thanks. Bob
Rene is a women if you happen to contact her. Here is the Rene Stein email.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++ RE: Licencing of images for Wikipedia Bob - So sorry to take so long in getting this to you. I had to wait for the history people to transfer the pictures to me. There are two of the SG-39 and two of the SG-41. We don't have any of the other items so I can't help you there. However you may want to try the Cryptomuseum.com people. Please credit NSA for the photos. Thanks for your patience. Rene
From: XXXX [5] Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2017 5:42 AM To: Stein, Rene S. <rsstein@nsa.gov> Subject: Licencing of images for Wikipedia Dear Ms Rene Stein, I got a nice image of the SG 41 off of Klaus Schmeh, which he uploaded to Wikipedia commons, but so far no images of the SG39, Schlüsselkasten, Schlüsselscheibe or Schlüssselrad. I've put the image of SG41 into the Fritz Menzer article at https://en.wikipedia.org /wiki/Fritz_Menzer#Menzer.27s_Inventions If I can't get an image of those last three images, I would use the ones from the document as they are all we've got, although they are not ideal. Is there any particular copyright licence you would like to attach to them. Yours Sincerely. Bob
From: Stein, Rene S. [6] Sent: 06 February 2017 16:08 To: 'XXXXX' <scope_creep@hotmail.com> Cc: Stein, Rene S. <rsstein@nsa.gov> Subject: RE: Licencing of images for Wikipedia Bob - If you want to use the photos in the publication, that's fine. However I am assuming that you would like better ones. I have a photo of an SG-41 that we have at the museum and I am trying to get one of the SG-39 from Stein, Rene S. <rsstein@nsa.gov> Tue 14/02/2017 16:36 To:'Bob Watson' <scope_creep@hotmail.com>; 4 attachments (2 MB) 200710231440.jpg; 200710231440-2.jpg; SG-39-1.jpg; SG-39-2.jpg; Mail – scope_creep@hotmail.com https://outlook.live.com/owa/?path=/mail/search/rp 1 of 3 20/08/2018, 16:38 the History people. We don't have one of the Lückenfüllerwalze. I noticed that the Crypto-Museum website has one. Maybe they will allow you to use theirs. Please let me know if the photos from the publication suit your needs or you wanted something else. Thanks, Rene
From: XXXXXX [7] Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2017 11:21 AM To: Stein, Rene S. <rsstein@nsa.gov> Subject: Licencing of images for Wikipedia Dear Ms. Rene Stein I am contacting you regarding possibly licensing some images in a NSA document that I received from a contact. I spoked to Klaus Schmeh klaus@schmeh.org < mailto:klaus@schmeh.org> regarding a web site he created, which had several images of German World War II cryptographic machines, and he informed me that they were licenced from a document received from yourself and he gave me your contact details. The document is located at: https://www.nsa.gov/about/cryptologic-heritage/historical-figures-publications/publications/wwii/assets/files /german_cipher.pdf. As regards myself, I'm an editor in Wikipedia, and I'm currently writing an article on Fritz Menzer, who was an inventor during WW2. Here is the location: /info/en/?search=Fritz_Menzer I'm trying to get licensable images for the Lückenfüllerwalze, Schlüsselgerät 39, Schlüsselgerät 41 devices and so on. Essentially all the devices in that list, would be better if they had images of some sort. It's very hard to imagine what they looked like from their description, which is all I have at the moment. Mail – scope_creep@hotmail.com https://outlook.live.com/owa/?path=/mail/search/rp 2 of 3 20/08/2018, 16:38 My editor name is: scope_creep Thanks for your time. Yours Sincerely XXXXX Mail – scope_creep@hotmail.com https://outlook.live.com/owa/?path=/mail/search/rp 3 of 3 20/08/2018, 16:38
scope_creep (
talk)
15:42, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Fastily ( talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 06:05, 15 September 2018 (UTC)
Virtually identical to standard release--not enough of a difference to justify inclusion of more non-free media. ― Justin (koavf)❤ T☮ C☺ M☯ 18:12, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by B ( talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 00:02, 15 September 2018 (UTC)
The art at the top of the FastPass is copyrighted. ~ Rob13 Talk 18:14, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by B ( talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 00:02, 15 September 2018 (UTC)
Copyrighted art. ~ Rob13 Talk 18:15, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by B ( talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 00:02, 15 September 2018 (UTC)
Copyrighted newspaper pages. ~ Rob13 Talk 18:15, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
The result of the discussion was: deleted (blue link is Commons bleed) -- B ( talk) 22:14, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
contesting keep local: unused locally, already moved to commons FASTILY 19:24, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
The result of the discussion was: Wrong forum. The file is on Commons. Please nominate it for deletion there if you still feel it should be deleted. AnomieBOT ⚡ 22:13, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
Uploader claimed own work, file is logo of publicly traded company. Should be re-uploaded with correct permissions Rosguill talk 21:37, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
The result of the discussion was: Wrong forum. The file is on Commons. Please nominate it for deletion there if you still feel it should be deleted. AnomieBOT ⚡ 23:01, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
Uploader claims this is their own work, but the image is a logo for a Malaysian school for gifted children. Remove and re-upload with correct fair-use permissions.Never mind, just saw note above about Commons
Rosguill
talk
22:28, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Fastily ( talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 06:05, 15 September 2018 (UTC)
According to [1], this was written some time just before March 1976, so if it was published without a copyright notice, it is public domain. I don't know that we have any evidence of that, though. B ( talk) 00:28, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
The result of the discussion was: delete. It was closed as "deleted" by Fastily. Jo-Jo Eumerus ( talk, contributions) 10:14, 15 September 2018 (UTC)
No evidence these are PD. Some similar articles (not this one) were published by Hoving in months prior to March 1976 [2], but these were presumably later since it's not mentioned in this article. We also have no idea whether they had a copyright notice. B ( talk) 00:33, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Fastily ( talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 06:05, 15 September 2018 (UTC)
1935 mugshot, apparently created by the State of Colorado which can hold copyright. It's unclear when this was first published. If it was c. 1935, it's almost certainly public domain. If it was recent, this needs an appropriate fair use rationale to be kept. — Guan aco 08:07, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
One likely possibility is that the mugshot was kept as a state record and not actually published until recently. If so, it's copyrighted. — Guan aco 02:14, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
The result of the discussion was: Remove from National Institute of Electronics & Information Technology. Historical precedent on WP:NFCC#8 questions is that older logos are not allowed unless there is some dedicated discussion of them. Jo-Jo Eumerus ( talk, contributions) 08:24, 15 September 2018 (UTC)
Non-free logo that is being used as primary identification in National Institute of Electronics & Information Technology. there are two other uses claimed but one is a redirect and the other doe snot actually use the images. The primary identification is however being done performed with File:NIELIT Logo.jpg. This is a violation of WP:NFCC#3a as we do not need two logos for identification. this is especially true when it is not at all clear that this is a organisational logo. The source URL provided https://www.nielit.gov.in/ doe not work. Using HTTP instead of HTTPS does resolve but http://www.nielit.gov.in/ does not seem to have this logo anywhere. As such WP:NFCC#10a is not met either. Whpq ( talk) 18:43, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Fastily ( talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 06:05, 15 September 2018 (UTC)
Very large non-free image (1.2Mpx). The question is keep? / reduce? / delete? I've set for no reduce for the purpose of this discussion. Allowing the facility to "zoom in", somewhat goes against NF policy. The need for text is also questionable as WP:NFC says An original, high resolution image (that can be reasonably scaled down to maintain overall artistic and critical details) may lose some text detail Ronhjones (Talk) 19:29, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted as G7 by Jo-Jo Eumerus ( talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 10:08, 15 September 2018 (UTC)
tagged OTRS received for over 7 months. After reviewing the associated ticket, I think it is unlikely that permission will be confirmed FASTILY 18:46, 21 July 2018 (UTC)
Were these photos taken by a US federal employee in the course of their duties? If so then per Title 17, Chapter 1, Section 105 of the US Code it is automatically in the public domain. If not, I need some information regarding who took the photos (if known) and when exactly they were taken. Regardless, it is likely that any possible copyright on these images has expired but I'd like to be certain. Thank you and if you have any questions please let me know.
Yours sincerely, Patrick Williams Permissions ticket number: Ticket#2018011110009211
And then I sent this:
RE: [Ticket#2018011110009211] FW: Licencing of images for Wikipedia Bob Watson Permissions (permissions@wikimedia.org) Hi Patrick. I can't get hold of Rene. It's possible he is on holiday or snowed in. The image is from a world war 2 device. The whole document is about world war 2 devices. Thanks. Bob
Rene is a women if you happen to contact her. Here is the Rene Stein email.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++ RE: Licencing of images for Wikipedia Bob - So sorry to take so long in getting this to you. I had to wait for the history people to transfer the pictures to me. There are two of the SG-39 and two of the SG-41. We don't have any of the other items so I can't help you there. However you may want to try the Cryptomuseum.com people. Please credit NSA for the photos. Thanks for your patience. Rene
From: XXXX [5] Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2017 5:42 AM To: Stein, Rene S. <rsstein@nsa.gov> Subject: Licencing of images for Wikipedia Dear Ms Rene Stein, I got a nice image of the SG 41 off of Klaus Schmeh, which he uploaded to Wikipedia commons, but so far no images of the SG39, Schlüsselkasten, Schlüsselscheibe or Schlüssselrad. I've put the image of SG41 into the Fritz Menzer article at https://en.wikipedia.org /wiki/Fritz_Menzer#Menzer.27s_Inventions If I can't get an image of those last three images, I would use the ones from the document as they are all we've got, although they are not ideal. Is there any particular copyright licence you would like to attach to them. Yours Sincerely. Bob
From: Stein, Rene S. [6] Sent: 06 February 2017 16:08 To: 'XXXXX' <scope_creep@hotmail.com> Cc: Stein, Rene S. <rsstein@nsa.gov> Subject: RE: Licencing of images for Wikipedia Bob - If you want to use the photos in the publication, that's fine. However I am assuming that you would like better ones. I have a photo of an SG-41 that we have at the museum and I am trying to get one of the SG-39 from Stein, Rene S. <rsstein@nsa.gov> Tue 14/02/2017 16:36 To:'Bob Watson' <scope_creep@hotmail.com>; 4 attachments (2 MB) 200710231440.jpg; 200710231440-2.jpg; SG-39-1.jpg; SG-39-2.jpg; Mail – scope_creep@hotmail.com https://outlook.live.com/owa/?path=/mail/search/rp 1 of 3 20/08/2018, 16:38 the History people. We don't have one of the Lückenfüllerwalze. I noticed that the Crypto-Museum website has one. Maybe they will allow you to use theirs. Please let me know if the photos from the publication suit your needs or you wanted something else. Thanks, Rene
From: XXXXXX [7] Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2017 11:21 AM To: Stein, Rene S. <rsstein@nsa.gov> Subject: Licencing of images for Wikipedia Dear Ms. Rene Stein I am contacting you regarding possibly licensing some images in a NSA document that I received from a contact. I spoked to Klaus Schmeh klaus@schmeh.org < mailto:klaus@schmeh.org> regarding a web site he created, which had several images of German World War II cryptographic machines, and he informed me that they were licenced from a document received from yourself and he gave me your contact details. The document is located at: https://www.nsa.gov/about/cryptologic-heritage/historical-figures-publications/publications/wwii/assets/files /german_cipher.pdf. As regards myself, I'm an editor in Wikipedia, and I'm currently writing an article on Fritz Menzer, who was an inventor during WW2. Here is the location: /info/en/?search=Fritz_Menzer I'm trying to get licensable images for the Lückenfüllerwalze, Schlüsselgerät 39, Schlüsselgerät 41 devices and so on. Essentially all the devices in that list, would be better if they had images of some sort. It's very hard to imagine what they looked like from their description, which is all I have at the moment. Mail – scope_creep@hotmail.com https://outlook.live.com/owa/?path=/mail/search/rp 2 of 3 20/08/2018, 16:38 My editor name is: scope_creep Thanks for your time. Yours Sincerely XXXXX Mail – scope_creep@hotmail.com https://outlook.live.com/owa/?path=/mail/search/rp 3 of 3 20/08/2018, 16:38
scope_creep (
talk)
15:42, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Fastily ( talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 06:05, 15 September 2018 (UTC)
Virtually identical to standard release--not enough of a difference to justify inclusion of more non-free media. ― Justin (koavf)❤ T☮ C☺ M☯ 18:12, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by B ( talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 00:02, 15 September 2018 (UTC)
The art at the top of the FastPass is copyrighted. ~ Rob13 Talk 18:14, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by B ( talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 00:02, 15 September 2018 (UTC)
Copyrighted art. ~ Rob13 Talk 18:15, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by B ( talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 00:02, 15 September 2018 (UTC)
Copyrighted newspaper pages. ~ Rob13 Talk 18:15, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
The result of the discussion was: deleted (blue link is Commons bleed) -- B ( talk) 22:14, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
contesting keep local: unused locally, already moved to commons FASTILY 19:24, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
The result of the discussion was: Wrong forum. The file is on Commons. Please nominate it for deletion there if you still feel it should be deleted. AnomieBOT ⚡ 22:13, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
Uploader claimed own work, file is logo of publicly traded company. Should be re-uploaded with correct permissions Rosguill talk 21:37, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
The result of the discussion was: Wrong forum. The file is on Commons. Please nominate it for deletion there if you still feel it should be deleted. AnomieBOT ⚡ 23:01, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
Uploader claims this is their own work, but the image is a logo for a Malaysian school for gifted children. Remove and re-upload with correct fair-use permissions.Never mind, just saw note above about Commons
Rosguill
talk
22:28, 7 September 2018 (UTC)