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Nominator's rationale:merge, redundant category layer, it is the only subcategory of the target and itself it is also not densely populated.
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Clarify, Where do search procedures which are not algorithms go? I think this is a miscategorisation. Are search algorithms search procedures? It seems more likely that all algorithms are procedures than that all procedures are algorithms.· · ·
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Reverse merge or merge and rename, "underwater diving" is longer but unambiguous, "diving" is ambiguous and we get lots of miscategorisation of articles about jumping into the water from a high place. Also, are all organisations associations? How about merging both into
Category:Underwater diving organisations? scope is most inclusive and least ambiguous. · · ·
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public lands". I think most readers would think that "state" described the office of "commissioner" not that it was state owned land. No intent in scope is intended. (Your call if those reasons are substantive though.) -
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Merge as nominated. I think it would be beneficial to have a discussion on renaming the entire tree, and I think it would be easiest to have that discussion if all categories are already named consistently. HouseBlaster (
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Comment this is wrong.
Patent trolls are patent holder but not inventors. In corporate contexts, the inventor is not the employer but the employee, however the entity holding the rights to the invention is the employer. Thus the filer would be the employer, who may sell the patent to a patent troll, which would then be the patent holder, and not any sort of inventor. Thus, persons, R&D sections of corporations, and patent trolls could be categorized. What is the purpose of "patent holder" categories, is it for patent holders, in which case it is not in any way similar to inventors. --
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Merge as nominated per nom and Marcocapelle. Marco raises good points about how holding a patent is not really distinct from being an inventor. He also rebuts the quasi-keep from 65.92.247.66. As for the above keep, the point about how not all inventions are patented would be relevant if we were merging in the other direction. However, if you can patent something you invented something, so nothing would be msicategorized by the proposed merge. HouseBlastertalk22:44, 31 December 2023 (UTC)reply
Merge While the comments above about there being a potential distinction between patent holders and inventors, in practice this category is overlapping with the articles. -
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Nominator's rationale: I think we should repurpose this category to not exclude women, as I don't think that the intersection between gender, ethnicity, and occupation is practularlly helpful here.
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Just delete per Marcocapelle. Sportspeople categories are usually gendered (because sports are), but this attempt to mix ethnicity and occupation is a catch-all attempt to ethnicize people that are not linked to Chechnya, such as
Rawad Abu Khizaran.
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Support While the overall parent category should use the current name, Samoa, the subcats should be accurate for that time period because it will make navigation easier. -
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Nominator's rationale: None of the people in this category are actually travelers, they're all explorers. So I think that the category should be renamed/reparented. (most of the traveler categories are poorly populated). An alternative would be to merge to
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Justin, once again, you are off the mark. The articles in here are all in respective fooite diplomats categories so no navigation is broken. Please look at the articles so you can make an actual informed vote in the future. –
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Nominator's rationale:merge, redundant category layer, it is the only subcategory of the target and itself it is also not densely populated.
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Clarify, Where do search procedures which are not algorithms go? I think this is a miscategorisation. Are search algorithms search procedures? It seems more likely that all algorithms are procedures than that all procedures are algorithms.· · ·
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Reverse merge or merge and rename, "underwater diving" is longer but unambiguous, "diving" is ambiguous and we get lots of miscategorisation of articles about jumping into the water from a high place. Also, are all organisations associations? How about merging both into
Category:Underwater diving organisations? scope is most inclusive and least ambiguous. · · ·
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Merge as nominated. I think it would be beneficial to have a discussion on renaming the entire tree, and I think it would be easiest to have that discussion if all categories are already named consistently. HouseBlaster (
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Comment this is wrong.
Patent trolls are patent holder but not inventors. In corporate contexts, the inventor is not the employer but the employee, however the entity holding the rights to the invention is the employer. Thus the filer would be the employer, who may sell the patent to a patent troll, which would then be the patent holder, and not any sort of inventor. Thus, persons, R&D sections of corporations, and patent trolls could be categorized. What is the purpose of "patent holder" categories, is it for patent holders, in which case it is not in any way similar to inventors. --
65.92.247.66 (
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01:40, 26 December 2023 (UTC)reply
Merge as nominated per nom and Marcocapelle. Marco raises good points about how holding a patent is not really distinct from being an inventor. He also rebuts the quasi-keep from 65.92.247.66. As for the above keep, the point about how not all inventions are patented would be relevant if we were merging in the other direction. However, if you can patent something you invented something, so nothing would be msicategorized by the proposed merge. HouseBlastertalk22:44, 31 December 2023 (UTC)reply
Merge While the comments above about there being a potential distinction between patent holders and inventors, in practice this category is overlapping with the articles. -
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Nominator's rationale: I think we should repurpose this category to not exclude women, as I don't think that the intersection between gender, ethnicity, and occupation is practularlly helpful here.
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22:52, 1 January 2024 (UTC)reply
Just delete per Marcocapelle. Sportspeople categories are usually gendered (because sports are), but this attempt to mix ethnicity and occupation is a catch-all attempt to ethnicize people that are not linked to Chechnya, such as
Rawad Abu Khizaran.
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Support While the overall parent category should use the current name, Samoa, the subcats should be accurate for that time period because it will make navigation easier. -
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Nominator's rationale: None of the people in this category are actually travelers, they're all explorers. So I think that the category should be renamed/reparented. (most of the traveler categories are poorly populated). An alternative would be to merge to
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Justin, once again, you are off the mark. The articles in here are all in respective fooite diplomats categories so no navigation is broken. Please look at the articles so you can make an actual informed vote in the future. –
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