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A subconscious mistake, as most of the priestesses (especially in the subcategory) were princesses. Thanks for noting it.
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Nominators' rationale: I'm not completely sure if this distinction is needed? I have not seen any other subcategories within
Category:War crimes committed by country further subdivided into another subcategory for the military. I think it can be readily assumed that national categories for war crimes were committed by the official armed forces of that nation-state by default.
AHI-3000 (
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Lean to support because I cannot readily think of arguments against nom's reasoning. I am open to anyone else's counter-arguments though.
Marcocapelle (
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Procedural comment, none of the category pages have been tagged.
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Merge per nom. I don't really see the need for this distinction, especially since there is quite a bit overlapping between all of these categories.
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Category:Fairies and sprites in popular culture
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Support in principle, per nom. If people would argue that sprites aren't fairies then split instead.
Marcocapelle (
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@
Dimadick: as you seem not to oppose, I would suggest that (if these categories are renamed) you check afterwards if some articles need to be recategorized.
Marcocapelle (
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Procedural comment, the category page has not been tagged.
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Expanding this nomination - propose renaming all of the following categories:
Procedural comment, the additional categories have not been tagged yet.
Marcocapelle (
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@
Marcocapelle: All tagged now. How will you vote on this expanded renaming proposal?
AHI-3000 (
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Thank you. For these categories the same applies as for the top category.
Marcocapelle (
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@
Marcocapelle: So do you support renaming these categories or not?
AHI-3000 (
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Of course. This is what I wrote about the top category: "Support in principle, per nom. If people would argue that sprites aren't fairies then split instead." And the same applies to the categories that were nominated later.
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Category:Albums recorded at the Tower Theater (Pennsylvania)
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Oppose as ambiguous (see
Tower Theater). StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 22:21, 16 February 2024 (UTC)reply
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Peoples of the Arctic
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Nominator's rationale: delete,
Arctic is a very useful concept in physical geography, but not so much in social geography. Here it merely combines completely unrelated peoples.
Marcocapelle (
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Delete. Too unrelated content.
Place Clichy (
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Delete These people, such as
Inuit and
Sámi, live on different continents and have different cultures and ancestry. –
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Category:People by intelligence agency
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Procedural comment, the tag on the category page is wrong, it does not link to here.
Marcocapelle (
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Oppose. As I noted in the discussion at the speedy nomination, Not everyone who works at an intelligence agency is a spy.
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Mason has a fair point, e.g. there are also directors in this category.
Marcocapelle (
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Oppose per Mason. I'd argue to remove C:Spies as a parent. –
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Category:Fictional spies by nationality
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@
AHI-3000:Procedural comment, the tags on the category pages are wrong, they do not link to here. Please fix them, otherwise, ultimately, the discussion will be procedurally closed without action.
Marcocapelle (
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Support per nom, but @
AHI-3000 needs to bring the discussions from SPEEDY here.
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Category:Yakut goddesses
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The result of the discussion was:merge. Content should come before categories.
(non-admin closure)Qwerfjkltalk 08:10, 23 February 2024 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale:merge for now, only one article in the category is not helpful for navigation, without objection to recreate the category when some more articles are available.
Marcocapelle (
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Keep. If I can still say sth, there's at least one more article to be added to this cat. I just haven't gotten around to it yet bc I'm busy with other articles. In fact, I was getting ready to edit an unrelated page when I saw this message.
Hse643 (
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Merge for now with no prejudice against recreation if the category can be appropriately populated. HouseBlaster (
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Category:Arab diaspora in Canada
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Nominator's rationale:merge, next to Arabs all sorts of Middle Eastern ethnic minorities are included in this tree, to such an extent that the category almost coincides with its Middle Eastern parent.
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Merge per nom. Another category that mixes ethnicity and geography in a confused way.
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Category:West Asian diaspora in Canada
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Nominator's rationale:WP:OVERLAPCAT. There is much overlap between these two categories, with much of the content being placed in both categories. This hurts more than it helps in terms of navigation, and in the long run it can only lead to confusion for both readers and editors.
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Category:Universities and colleges by type
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Nominator's rationale: As specified in the brief description sentence, this category is for universities and colleges "by type of subject matter taught". It notably does not contain subcategories like
Category:Deaf universities and colleges or
Category:Women's universities and colleges, which are types of a different sort. Renaming would help make this clearer and enable easier browsing. {{u|Sdkb}}talk 17:20, 7 February 2024 (UTC)reply
Maybe "by subject"? That would be less ambiguous than any sort of "type".
Marcocapelle (
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Support in principle. I think subject or discipline or field of study could work.
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Leaning towards keeping as is. I don't really see an issue with categorizing colleges by type, and I don't see an obvious way to split it in a way that would work across the planet: specialization in an academic field, organization, target audience, specific demographic of the teaching corps? There seems to be significant overlap between all of these, e.g. Christian institutions include both institutions that teach general education to a general audience and seminaries who teach religious stuff to aspiring clergy.
Place Clichy (
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This is a proposal to rename the category to better reflect its existing scope (which is already working), not a proposal to redefine its scope. Sdkbtalk 16:21, 21 February 2024 (UTC)reply
"Type" is way too vague to be useful for readers - and likely editors, too. If the intent is to classify institutions based on the disciplines they teach or support then the category should be renamed along those lines. I suppose that "subject" might also work as a rough synonym that might be more familiar to many readers.
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People from Dorchester, Boston
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Comment Some of these people were from
Dorchester, Boston prior to its annexation to Boston in 1870. –
Aidan721 (
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I'd still lean toward a merge but wanted that information to be available to voters. Not sure if there is a previous precedent in this regard. –
Aidan721 (
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Weak keep Dorchester is more like the Bronx than the LES or the others voted upon in December because it was an independent town for 240 years and has distinct boundaries.--
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Merge as trivial intersections. This seems overly specific.
Place Clichy (
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@
Place Clichy, so it being a former town doesn't matter that much? Because that is what concerned me; I didn't know that when I nominated it.
Omnis Scientia (
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Very few people in the above categories seem to have been active in that independent city. The only par here is
WP:DEFINE. I don't think that it is defining for any of these articles which neighborhood of Boston they came from. People from Dorchester, even in colonial times, belong to the history of Boston and it is fine to define them as people from Boston.
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Category:Christian religious leaders in Scotland
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Partial merge per nom, redundant category layer.
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Christian clergy in Belgium
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Nominator's rationale: The "Christian clergy in Foo" categories are intended for categories by country of work, encompassing expatriates as well as nationals. The nominated "Christian clergy" categories are an unnecessary layer as they only include "Bishops in Foo", which are already in the parent
Category:Christian clergy by country of work via
Category:Bishops by country of work. Likewise, the nominated "[Christian] religious leaders" categories are similar unnecessary layers with only one subcat. –
FayenaticLondon 10:39, 15 February 2024 (UTC)reply
Merge per nom. We also have missionaries by country, but they are not generally considered as clergy or religious leaders so there is not much to populate these categories.
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Category:West Semitic deities
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Nominator's rationale:merge, trivial intersection of mythology and language family.
Marcocapelle (
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Oppose Semitic cultures had different deities than the
Sumerians, the
Hittites, etc.
Dimadick (
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Deities did not bother about linguistic differences, e.g. many were both
Hittite (non-Semitic) and
Ugaritic (Semitic).
Marcocapelle (
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Oppose Category is meaningful. Not all gods were worshiped by the same people even if some were adopted by other cultures. West Semitic peoples had their own gods aside from those they adopted from neighboring cultures who are distinct enough to have their own category. Lumping differing people and cultures together simply because they inhabit the same area and ignoring any differences is disrespectful. And yes language would definitely be a factor separating these peoples and cultures. In fact it was probably the major difference (hard to identify with your neighbors when you can't understand them and they worship differently named gods in different ways, along with all the other cultural differences). As someone who appears to have zero knowledge of the religions of the ancient Near East, you should not be nominating this cat for deletion.
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Category:16th-century poets from the Colony of Santo Domingo
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Nominator's rationale: Dual upmerge for now. There's only one person in this category, which is unhelpful for navigation
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Category:Gang of Youths members
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Nominator's rationale: Unhelpful for navigation to only have one band member; Per the guidance on the parent category
Category:Musicians by band "Musicians by their bands, whether previous or current members. Categories should not be created when only one member has an article."
Mason (
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Keep per
WP:SMALLCAT and
WP:LOCALCONSENSUS. This seems like a local consensus that has no actual consensus or discussion and is contrary to smallcat. ―
Justin (koavf)❤
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C☺
M☯ 04:35, 15 February 2024 (UTC)reply
Small cat is depreciated.
Mason (
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Delete per very longstanding consensus (since 2008).
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Category:Dick Dale and the Del-Tones members
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Nominator's rationale: Unhelpful for navigation to only have one band member; Per the guidance on the parent category
Category:Musicians by band "Musicians by their bands, whether previous or current members. Categories should not be created when only one member has an article."
Mason (
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Delete per very longstanding consensus (since 2008).
Marcocapelle (
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Delete per nom. Even the band article directs back to the
Dick Dale article, the only member of the category. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 22:05, 16 February 2024 (UTC)reply
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Category:Diablo Swing Orchestra members
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Nominator's rationale: Unhelpful for navigation to only have one band member; Per the guidance on the parent category
Category:Musicians by band "Musicians by their bands, whether previous or current members. Categories should not be created when only one member has an article."
Mason (
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Delete per very longstanding consensus (since 2008).
Marcocapelle (
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Delete per nom and established precedent. Not much point in having a band member category for one member. Thanks for cleaning this up, Smason. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 22:08, 16 February 2024 (UTC)reply
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Category:Cobra Starship members
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Category:Musicians by band "Musicians by their bands, whether previous or current members. Categories should not be created when only one member has an article."
Mason (
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Delete per very longstanding consensus (since 2008).
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Delete per nom and precedent. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 22:01, 16 February 2024 (UTC)reply
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Category:1958 establishments in Zambia
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The result of the discussion was:speedy merged, since the existence of this category was also template-generating a redlinked "1958 in Zambia" category that I could neither create nor fix any other way but had to eliminate regardless.
Bearcat (
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Merge and redirect with {{R from category navigation}}. Thanks,
Mason, for bringing this nomination, but in future I suggest simply redirecting such cases where they are within an existing sequence. –
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Category:Townships found in Mzuzu
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Nominator's rationale: Overlapping category. The only page in here is a town, not a township. These were all created by the same user.
Mason (
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Support for consistency. "Populated places" is the new norm.
Marcocapelle (
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Support but the collective contents — six in all — should also be merged into
Category:Mzuzu. –
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A subconscious mistake, as most of the priestesses (especially in the subcategory) were princesses. Thanks for noting it.
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Nominators' rationale: I'm not completely sure if this distinction is needed? I have not seen any other subcategories within
Category:War crimes committed by country further subdivided into another subcategory for the military. I think it can be readily assumed that national categories for war crimes were committed by the official armed forces of that nation-state by default.
AHI-3000 (
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Lean to support because I cannot readily think of arguments against nom's reasoning. I am open to anyone else's counter-arguments though.
Marcocapelle (
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Procedural comment, none of the category pages have been tagged.
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Merge per nom. I don't really see the need for this distinction, especially since there is quite a bit overlapping between all of these categories.
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Category:Fairies and sprites in popular culture
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Support in principle, per nom. If people would argue that sprites aren't fairies then split instead.
Marcocapelle (
talk) 06:28, 7 February 2024 (UTC)reply
@
Dimadick: as you seem not to oppose, I would suggest that (if these categories are renamed) you check afterwards if some articles need to be recategorized.
Marcocapelle (
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Procedural comment, the category page has not been tagged.
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Expanding this nomination - propose renaming all of the following categories:
Procedural comment, the additional categories have not been tagged yet.
Marcocapelle (
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@
Marcocapelle: All tagged now. How will you vote on this expanded renaming proposal?
AHI-3000 (
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Thank you. For these categories the same applies as for the top category.
Marcocapelle (
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@
Marcocapelle: So do you support renaming these categories or not?
AHI-3000 (
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Of course. This is what I wrote about the top category: "Support in principle, per nom. If people would argue that sprites aren't fairies then split instead." And the same applies to the categories that were nominated later.
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Category:Albums recorded at the Tower Theater (Pennsylvania)
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Oppose as ambiguous (see
Tower Theater). StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 22:21, 16 February 2024 (UTC)reply
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Peoples of the Arctic
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Nominator's rationale: delete,
Arctic is a very useful concept in physical geography, but not so much in social geography. Here it merely combines completely unrelated peoples.
Marcocapelle (
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Delete. Too unrelated content.
Place Clichy (
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Delete These people, such as
Inuit and
Sámi, live on different continents and have different cultures and ancestry. –
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Category:People by intelligence agency
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Procedural comment, the tag on the category page is wrong, it does not link to here.
Marcocapelle (
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Oppose. As I noted in the discussion at the speedy nomination, Not everyone who works at an intelligence agency is a spy.
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Qwerfjkltalk 20:06, 15 February 2024 (UTC)reply
Mason has a fair point, e.g. there are also directors in this category.
Marcocapelle (
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Oppose per Mason. I'd argue to remove C:Spies as a parent. –
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Category:Fictional spies by nationality
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@
AHI-3000:Procedural comment, the tags on the category pages are wrong, they do not link to here. Please fix them, otherwise, ultimately, the discussion will be procedurally closed without action.
Marcocapelle (
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Support per nom, but @
AHI-3000 needs to bring the discussions from SPEEDY here.
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Category:Yakut goddesses
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The result of the discussion was:merge. Content should come before categories.
(non-admin closure)Qwerfjkltalk 08:10, 23 February 2024 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale:merge for now, only one article in the category is not helpful for navigation, without objection to recreate the category when some more articles are available.
Marcocapelle (
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Keep. If I can still say sth, there's at least one more article to be added to this cat. I just haven't gotten around to it yet bc I'm busy with other articles. In fact, I was getting ready to edit an unrelated page when I saw this message.
Hse643 (
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Merge for now with no prejudice against recreation if the category can be appropriately populated. HouseBlaster (
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Category:Arab diaspora in Canada
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Nominator's rationale:merge, next to Arabs all sorts of Middle Eastern ethnic minorities are included in this tree, to such an extent that the category almost coincides with its Middle Eastern parent.
Marcocapelle (
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Merge per nom. Another category that mixes ethnicity and geography in a confused way.
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Category:West Asian diaspora in Canada
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Nominator's rationale:WP:OVERLAPCAT. There is much overlap between these two categories, with much of the content being placed in both categories. This hurts more than it helps in terms of navigation, and in the long run it can only lead to confusion for both readers and editors.
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Category:Universities and colleges by type
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Nominator's rationale: As specified in the brief description sentence, this category is for universities and colleges "by type of subject matter taught". It notably does not contain subcategories like
Category:Deaf universities and colleges or
Category:Women's universities and colleges, which are types of a different sort. Renaming would help make this clearer and enable easier browsing. {{u|Sdkb}}talk 17:20, 7 February 2024 (UTC)reply
Maybe "by subject"? That would be less ambiguous than any sort of "type".
Marcocapelle (
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Support in principle. I think subject or discipline or field of study could work.
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Qwerfjkltalk 12:49, 15 February 2024 (UTC)reply
Leaning towards keeping as is. I don't really see an issue with categorizing colleges by type, and I don't see an obvious way to split it in a way that would work across the planet: specialization in an academic field, organization, target audience, specific demographic of the teaching corps? There seems to be significant overlap between all of these, e.g. Christian institutions include both institutions that teach general education to a general audience and seminaries who teach religious stuff to aspiring clergy.
Place Clichy (
talk) 14:34, 15 February 2024 (UTC)reply
This is a proposal to rename the category to better reflect its existing scope (which is already working), not a proposal to redefine its scope. Sdkbtalk 16:21, 21 February 2024 (UTC)reply
"Type" is way too vague to be useful for readers - and likely editors, too. If the intent is to classify institutions based on the disciplines they teach or support then the category should be renamed along those lines. I suppose that "subject" might also work as a rough synonym that might be more familiar to many readers.
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People from Dorchester, Boston
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Comment Some of these people were from
Dorchester, Boston prior to its annexation to Boston in 1870. –
Aidan721 (
talk) 20:01, 30 January 2024 (UTC)reply
I'd still lean toward a merge but wanted that information to be available to voters. Not sure if there is a previous precedent in this regard. –
Aidan721 (
talk) 21:54, 30 January 2024 (UTC)reply
Weak keep Dorchester is more like the Bronx than the LES or the others voted upon in December because it was an independent town for 240 years and has distinct boundaries.--
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Qwerfjkltalk 12:46, 15 February 2024 (UTC)reply
Merge as trivial intersections. This seems overly specific.
Place Clichy (
talk) 14:35, 15 February 2024 (UTC)reply
@
Place Clichy, so it being a former town doesn't matter that much? Because that is what concerned me; I didn't know that when I nominated it.
Omnis Scientia (
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Very few people in the above categories seem to have been active in that independent city. The only par here is
WP:DEFINE. I don't think that it is defining for any of these articles which neighborhood of Boston they came from. People from Dorchester, even in colonial times, belong to the history of Boston and it is fine to define them as people from Boston.
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Category:Christian religious leaders in Scotland
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Partial merge per nom, redundant category layer.
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Christian clergy in Belgium
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Nominator's rationale: The "Christian clergy in Foo" categories are intended for categories by country of work, encompassing expatriates as well as nationals. The nominated "Christian clergy" categories are an unnecessary layer as they only include "Bishops in Foo", which are already in the parent
Category:Christian clergy by country of work via
Category:Bishops by country of work. Likewise, the nominated "[Christian] religious leaders" categories are similar unnecessary layers with only one subcat. –
FayenaticLondon 10:39, 15 February 2024 (UTC)reply
Merge per nom. We also have missionaries by country, but they are not generally considered as clergy or religious leaders so there is not much to populate these categories.
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Category:West Semitic deities
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Nominator's rationale:merge, trivial intersection of mythology and language family.
Marcocapelle (
talk) 07:35, 15 February 2024 (UTC)reply
Oppose Semitic cultures had different deities than the
Sumerians, the
Hittites, etc.
Dimadick (
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Deities did not bother about linguistic differences, e.g. many were both
Hittite (non-Semitic) and
Ugaritic (Semitic).
Marcocapelle (
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Oppose Category is meaningful. Not all gods were worshiped by the same people even if some were adopted by other cultures. West Semitic peoples had their own gods aside from those they adopted from neighboring cultures who are distinct enough to have their own category. Lumping differing people and cultures together simply because they inhabit the same area and ignoring any differences is disrespectful. And yes language would definitely be a factor separating these peoples and cultures. In fact it was probably the major difference (hard to identify with your neighbors when you can't understand them and they worship differently named gods in different ways, along with all the other cultural differences). As someone who appears to have zero knowledge of the religions of the ancient Near East, you should not be nominating this cat for deletion.
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Category:16th-century poets from the Colony of Santo Domingo
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Nominator's rationale: Dual upmerge for now. There's only one person in this category, which is unhelpful for navigation
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Category:Gang of Youths members
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Nominator's rationale: Unhelpful for navigation to only have one band member; Per the guidance on the parent category
Category:Musicians by band "Musicians by their bands, whether previous or current members. Categories should not be created when only one member has an article."
Mason (
talk) 03:17, 15 February 2024 (UTC)reply
Keep per
WP:SMALLCAT and
WP:LOCALCONSENSUS. This seems like a local consensus that has no actual consensus or discussion and is contrary to smallcat. ―
Justin (koavf)❤
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C☺
M☯ 04:35, 15 February 2024 (UTC)reply
Small cat is depreciated.
Mason (
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Delete per very longstanding consensus (since 2008).
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Category:Dick Dale and the Del-Tones members
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Nominator's rationale: Unhelpful for navigation to only have one band member; Per the guidance on the parent category
Category:Musicians by band "Musicians by their bands, whether previous or current members. Categories should not be created when only one member has an article."
Mason (
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Delete per very longstanding consensus (since 2008).
Marcocapelle (
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Delete per nom. Even the band article directs back to the
Dick Dale article, the only member of the category. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 22:05, 16 February 2024 (UTC)reply
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Category:Diablo Swing Orchestra members
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Nominator's rationale: Unhelpful for navigation to only have one band member; Per the guidance on the parent category
Category:Musicians by band "Musicians by their bands, whether previous or current members. Categories should not be created when only one member has an article."
Mason (
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Delete per very longstanding consensus (since 2008).
Marcocapelle (
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Delete per nom and established precedent. Not much point in having a band member category for one member. Thanks for cleaning this up, Smason. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 22:08, 16 February 2024 (UTC)reply
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Category:Cobra Starship members
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Nominator's rationale: Unhelpful for navigation to only have one band member; Per the guidance on the parent category
Category:Musicians by band "Musicians by their bands, whether previous or current members. Categories should not be created when only one member has an article."
Mason (
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Delete per very longstanding consensus (since 2008).
Marcocapelle (
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Delete per nom and precedent. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 22:01, 16 February 2024 (UTC)reply
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Category:1958 establishments in Zambia
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The result of the discussion was:speedy merged, since the existence of this category was also template-generating a redlinked "1958 in Zambia" category that I could neither create nor fix any other way but had to eliminate regardless.
Bearcat (
talk) 14:57, 16 February 2024 (UTC)reply
Merge and redirect with {{R from category navigation}}. Thanks,
Mason, for bringing this nomination, but in future I suggest simply redirecting such cases where they are within an existing sequence. –
FayenaticLondon 11:02, 16 February 2024 (UTC)reply
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Category:Townships found in Mzuzu
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Nominator's rationale: Overlapping category. The only page in here is a town, not a township. These were all created by the same user.
Mason (
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Support for consistency. "Populated places" is the new norm.
Marcocapelle (
talk) 06:39, 15 February 2024 (UTC)reply
Support but the collective contents — six in all — should also be merged into
Category:Mzuzu. –
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