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Category:Roman courtesans
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Nominator's rationale: I create this category a while ago, but I feel like "Roman courtesans" could also apply to courtesans from the city of Rome.
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Category:Childrens Commissioners in Wales
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Category:Television series by network
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Category:Wikipedia:Wikipediholism
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Years and decades in Ceuta and Melilla
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Nominator's rationale:
Ceuta and
Melilla are Spanish exclaves in North Africa. These ten categories contain between them a total of just two articles:
COVID-19 pandemic in Ceuta and
COVID-19 pandemic in Melilla ... so this nomination removes the by-year and by-decade categories, leaving just the centuries.
I presume that the categories were created (by @
Chongkian) in good faith to contain those two COVID-19 articles, but we don't have enough coverage of
Ceuta and
Melilla to populate by-decade categories, let alone by-year.
I did a quick Petscan check for the intersection between
Category:21st century in Spain and each of
Category:Ceuta and
Category:Melilla, excluding people-from-the-place because we don't categorise biographies in geographic year or decade categories
Those sets are too small to divide into decades let alone years, because most of the articles are establishments/disestablishments, which we don't categorise directly in year or decade categories. --
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Category:Animated Flash (comics) films
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How is it more "incredibly awkward" than the current way we name categories? What is the difference between "Batman music", "Batman novels" or "Batman graphic novels" and this? Why do we use "Batman graphic novels" but not "Graphic Batman novels"? --
Gonnym (
talk)
09:05, 8 September 2020 (UTC)reply
You actually didn't answer that. You also didn't address
Category:Batman graphic novels and why that isn't "Graphic Batman novels". Also, saying "animated" is just another desription added is meaningless as it's still there in the proposed title. It's just in the correct place, as the media is "Animated film". --
Gonnym (
talk)
16:40, 16 September 2020 (UTC)reply
Trying to compare "graphic ___ novel" in this case is laughable, no one with a good grasp of English has ever uttered the words "graphic Batman novel". In the end "Animated" is just a description, "graphic novel" is an object.
★Trekker (
talk)
21:00, 16 September 2020 (UTC)reply
★Trekker is correct. Not just about "graphic novel" being a compound noun (obviously) but about adjective order. English has a hierarchy of what order adjectives should go in, based on how intrinsic the adjective is to describing the noun.
[1] For example, we say "big blue bird" because the color is more intrinsic to the nature of a bird than its size is: little blue birds become big blue birds. In this case, being a "Batman film" is more intrinsic than being an "animated film", because the producers could conceivably change their mind and produce it as live-action film instead, but they couldn't change their mind and make it a Superman film instead... it would be an entirely different thing if they did. So for that reason, "Batman" should be closer to "film" than "animated" is. -
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Category:Pride parades in Poland
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Oppose - Alignment with the rest of the category tree (and common usage) should override consistency with the article name in this case. --
Black Falcon(
talk)22:51, 9 August 2020 (UTC)reply
The equality marches in Poland are not commonly called "pride parades", even in English language sources. That is simply incorrect. (
t ·
c) buidhe01:21, 10 August 2020 (UTC)reply
Support. Discussion at article talk page, and the main article itself, seem to clearly indicate that these marches are so called in Poland. I also expect to see other local variations elsewhere. This is a case where precision should be preferred to consistency.
Place Clichy (
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16:50, 21 August 2020 (UTC)reply
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Category:Gender-critical Wikipedians
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Nominator's rationale: Gender-critical feminists are criticized for being transphobic due to its close association with
"womyn-born-womyn" philosophy. As someone who isn't likely to be traumatized by the discussion, I've decided to nominate the category for deletion myself.
Just to clarify, I am not telling anyone that they are not masculine or feminine, nor is that the intent of the category. The category is intended to identify those who believe that gender is a social construct that should not exist. As far as I know, we are allowed to critique (in a civil manner) social constructs.
Yilangren (
talk)
01:24, 20 August 2020 (UTC)reply
It seems like an extremely poor choice of terminology then, given the cited definition of the term in the article that the nominator links to. It's the only definition I've encountered. And I've encountered lots of discussion of gender as a social construct, in college classes and online, but I've never heard that concept referred to as being "gender-critical". I notice that it doesn't appear in the
gender article, nor in the
social construction of gender article. --▸₷truthious Ⓑandersnatch◂02:08, 20 August 2020 (UTC)reply
Keep per no valid criterion proposed. Just because we don't agree with something shouldn't mean we should forcefully wipe it. If an editor is personally attacking other editors with their views, this can be managed on a case by case basis. I see no reason why deleting this category would prevent any disruption, or be a benefit in any way.
Edtalk!01:55, 20 August 2020 (UTC)reply
Not sure how this category would fall under "Dating services" in
WP:NOTSOCIAL. The only potential ground for deletion that I could reasonably understand is
WP:USERCATYES. However, looking at
Category:Wikipedians by philosophy it would seem that most of them "advocate a position" so I'm not sure how this category is any different in that sense. Regarding
WP:NPOV, if anything userboxes like this or those supporting gender would help promote neutrality when editing certain controversial articles so that each user can know the other user's perspective -- this way, more neutral and unbiased editors can help settle debates.
Yilangren (
talk)
18:26, 20 August 2020 (UTC)reply
+ Note that with respect to "userboxes like this or those supporting gender would help promote neutrality": it is not the userbox that is nominated for deletion, just the category.
Marcocapelle (
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07:02, 21 August 2020 (UTC)reply
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Category:Water rides manufactured by other makers
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Category:Roman courtesans
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Nominator's rationale: I create this category a while ago, but I feel like "Roman courtesans" could also apply to courtesans from the city of Rome.
★Trekker (
talk)
20:56, 16 September 2020 (UTC)reply
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Category:Childrens Commissioners in Wales
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Category:Television series by network
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Nominator's rationale: This category is a parent category of (mostly) network or channel country categories that have sub-categories which are original programming. The reason for some using network and some using channels in the country category names is based on what type is used in each country. Adding "channel" to the title will make it less confusing finding non-network categories in it. I'll note that while
Category:Television networks is called that, it also has
Category:Television channels and networks by content and
Category:Television network and channel navigational boxes.
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Category:Wikipedia:Wikipediholism
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Years and decades in Ceuta and Melilla
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Nominator's rationale:
Ceuta and
Melilla are Spanish exclaves in North Africa. These ten categories contain between them a total of just two articles:
COVID-19 pandemic in Ceuta and
COVID-19 pandemic in Melilla ... so this nomination removes the by-year and by-decade categories, leaving just the centuries.
I presume that the categories were created (by @
Chongkian) in good faith to contain those two COVID-19 articles, but we don't have enough coverage of
Ceuta and
Melilla to populate by-decade categories, let alone by-year.
I did a quick Petscan check for the intersection between
Category:21st century in Spain and each of
Category:Ceuta and
Category:Melilla, excluding people-from-the-place because we don't categorise biographies in geographic year or decade categories
Those sets are too small to divide into decades let alone years, because most of the articles are establishments/disestablishments, which we don't categorise directly in year or decade categories. --
BrownHairedGirl(talk) • (
contribs)
04:43, 16 September 2020 (UTC)reply
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Category:Animated Flash (comics) films
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How is it more "incredibly awkward" than the current way we name categories? What is the difference between "Batman music", "Batman novels" or "Batman graphic novels" and this? Why do we use "Batman graphic novels" but not "Graphic Batman novels"? --
Gonnym (
talk)
09:05, 8 September 2020 (UTC)reply
You actually didn't answer that. You also didn't address
Category:Batman graphic novels and why that isn't "Graphic Batman novels". Also, saying "animated" is just another desription added is meaningless as it's still there in the proposed title. It's just in the correct place, as the media is "Animated film". --
Gonnym (
talk)
16:40, 16 September 2020 (UTC)reply
Trying to compare "graphic ___ novel" in this case is laughable, no one with a good grasp of English has ever uttered the words "graphic Batman novel". In the end "Animated" is just a description, "graphic novel" is an object.
★Trekker (
talk)
21:00, 16 September 2020 (UTC)reply
★Trekker is correct. Not just about "graphic novel" being a compound noun (obviously) but about adjective order. English has a hierarchy of what order adjectives should go in, based on how intrinsic the adjective is to describing the noun.
[1] For example, we say "big blue bird" because the color is more intrinsic to the nature of a bird than its size is: little blue birds become big blue birds. In this case, being a "Batman film" is more intrinsic than being an "animated film", because the producers could conceivably change their mind and produce it as live-action film instead, but they couldn't change their mind and make it a Superman film instead... it would be an entirely different thing if they did. So for that reason, "Batman" should be closer to "film" than "animated" is. -
Jason A. Quest (
talk)
01:19, 25 October 2020 (UTC)reply
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Category:Pride parades in Poland
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Oppose - Alignment with the rest of the category tree (and common usage) should override consistency with the article name in this case. --
Black Falcon(
talk)22:51, 9 August 2020 (UTC)reply
The equality marches in Poland are not commonly called "pride parades", even in English language sources. That is simply incorrect. (
t ·
c) buidhe01:21, 10 August 2020 (UTC)reply
Support. Discussion at article talk page, and the main article itself, seem to clearly indicate that these marches are so called in Poland. I also expect to see other local variations elsewhere. This is a case where precision should be preferred to consistency.
Place Clichy (
talk)
16:50, 21 August 2020 (UTC)reply
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Category:Gender-critical Wikipedians
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Nominator's rationale: Gender-critical feminists are criticized for being transphobic due to its close association with
"womyn-born-womyn" philosophy. As someone who isn't likely to be traumatized by the discussion, I've decided to nominate the category for deletion myself.
Just to clarify, I am not telling anyone that they are not masculine or feminine, nor is that the intent of the category. The category is intended to identify those who believe that gender is a social construct that should not exist. As far as I know, we are allowed to critique (in a civil manner) social constructs.
Yilangren (
talk)
01:24, 20 August 2020 (UTC)reply
It seems like an extremely poor choice of terminology then, given the cited definition of the term in the article that the nominator links to. It's the only definition I've encountered. And I've encountered lots of discussion of gender as a social construct, in college classes and online, but I've never heard that concept referred to as being "gender-critical". I notice that it doesn't appear in the
gender article, nor in the
social construction of gender article. --▸₷truthious Ⓑandersnatch◂02:08, 20 August 2020 (UTC)reply
Keep per no valid criterion proposed. Just because we don't agree with something shouldn't mean we should forcefully wipe it. If an editor is personally attacking other editors with their views, this can be managed on a case by case basis. I see no reason why deleting this category would prevent any disruption, or be a benefit in any way.
Edtalk!01:55, 20 August 2020 (UTC)reply
Not sure how this category would fall under "Dating services" in
WP:NOTSOCIAL. The only potential ground for deletion that I could reasonably understand is
WP:USERCATYES. However, looking at
Category:Wikipedians by philosophy it would seem that most of them "advocate a position" so I'm not sure how this category is any different in that sense. Regarding
WP:NPOV, if anything userboxes like this or those supporting gender would help promote neutrality when editing certain controversial articles so that each user can know the other user's perspective -- this way, more neutral and unbiased editors can help settle debates.
Yilangren (
talk)
18:26, 20 August 2020 (UTC)reply
+ Note that with respect to "userboxes like this or those supporting gender would help promote neutrality": it is not the userbox that is nominated for deletion, just the category.
Marcocapelle (
talk)
07:02, 21 August 2020 (UTC)reply
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Category:Water rides manufactured by other makers
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