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Nominator's rationale:Rename. I created this category, but I think the name is could be refined. Would appreciate other comments. My rationale was that there are some awards that are both state or military, such as
Order of the White Eagle (Poland) that do not fit into either civilian or state categories. I'd also like to create a
Category:State awards and decorations that would be a parent cat to those civilian and military categories, as well as to the mixed ones. I am no expert on the subject, and perhaps this category and the one I created for recipients is redundant if all the state military and civilian orders fall under
Category:Orders of knighthood? Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus|
talk to me22:46, 7 November 2011 (UTC)reply
Delete too broad and intertwined to be meaningful. Some soldier who gets some good conduct award from country X has nothing to do with someone getting a knighthood from QEII each of whom fits in this wideranging category.
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Indifferent as creator. I'm guessing a template was feeding this category so I created it so the template wouldn't be filling an undefined void? Honestly I don't know - it's apparently been years, so whatever the outcome... cool with me.
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07:16, 16 October 2011 (UTC)reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
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Category:Young Money Entertainment
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Nominator's rationale:Delete Not enough stuff to warrant a category. There's just a subcategory and a template. (As far as I'm concerned, templates should not even appear in article categories.)
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02:45, 7 November 2011 (UTC)reply
Comment I've removed the template. I'm not sure which policy/guideline states that such templates should not be categorized in the same categories as articles, but I've never seen it and it would be unprecedented.
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Category:Classic hip-hop radio stations
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Nominator's rationale:Delete We classify radio stations according to
radio format but "classic hip-hop" is not a radio format. It's also not a subgenre of hip-hop and no two hip-hop experts will ever agree on a common definition of the term. This makes it unsuitable as the basis for a category.
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Category:Songs with music by Tinchy Stryder
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Amendment to nomination. In in light of the comments of the creator of the category and the fact he has already emptied the category in the order he thinks it should be I have reversed my nomination. However I am still at loss to understand the claim that Stryder has only written 3 songs when there were 5 in the songs by songwriter category and 15-odd in the music by category.--
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09:42, 7 November 2011 (UTC)reply
Response. Now I am completely confused. The only contributor to the list article also says Stryder is NOT a songwriter. If anybody can sort this out while I take a pill and lie down for a while... Cheers. --
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12:49, 7 November 2011 (UTC)reply
Reply to comments – I have re-formatted the list of the 16 songs on
List of Tinchy Stryder songs for correction. Their was ment to be a composer by Kwasi Danquah aka
Tinchy Stryder section when the article (
List of Tinchy Stryder songs) was first created by me, but it was not and instead I putted Kwasi Danquah aka Tinchy Stryder in the section of songwriter, which would make anybody confused as to Kwasi Danquah aka
Tinchy Stryder being the co-writer of that particular song on the
List of Tinchy Stryder songs. So I have now corrected the format on the "list of Tinchy Stryder songs" and it now shows Kwasi Danquah aka
Tinchy Stryder as composer not as a co-writer of a particular song on the list.
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Category:Angry Birds
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Nominator's rationale:Delete I'd be willing to bet that the Angry Birds franchise will continue to give rise to new articles in the future. But this seems premature. There are only two articles and that includes the main article. The two articles are, obviously, properly linked to one another and the category adds nothing in terms of ease of browsing.
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No, the other discussion does not propose deleting the 1st–3rd category, but two others. This cat thus was not tagged for discussion, and it would not be procedurally correct to make a change without a new discussion— which has now begun :).-
choster (
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05:08, 8 November 2011 (UTC)reply
Point of order 2 If the first case is carried, then there will be nothing to merge into if this is also carried. This is premature and presumptuous. Await the outcome of the first case.
Laurel Lodged (
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20:16, 8 November 2011 (UTC)reply
Technical point - The other discussion (proposing merging two other categories into this one) has been closed as no merge/keep, therefore this discussion may proceed as before.
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00:24, 9 November 2011 (UTC)reply
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AGK[•]17:37, 4 December 2011 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale: These two categories overlap in contents. While there are articles that could be written that fit here and don't have to do with the Middle East, these aren't them.--
Mike Selinker (
talk)
00:43, 7 November 2011 (UTC)reply
Weak keep As the nominator tacitly points out, the
Arab World is larger than the
Middle East (encompassing most of
North Africa as well), plus there are several states in the Middle East--e.g.
Iran,
Israel--which aren't Arab-majority. There is inevitably going to be some redundancy/overlap or some awkwarldly-precise wording no matter what you do. I guess since there is a main article with this name, it's worth keeping at this point. If something changes in the article namespace, the categories should follow. I don't really have a horse in this race otherwise. —
Justin (koavf)❤
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00:58, 7 November 2011 (UTC)reply
I agree there's quite a bit of overlap, but it is true that the Middle East and the Arab World are two distinct regions with some overlaps. However, whether there is significant differences in U.S. foreign policy respecting the two different regions is more doubtful, I would say. (Would GW Bush have been able to articulate the difference between the two? I kind of doubt it.) So maybe we really need to come up with a better generic term to merge both of these in to.
Good Ol’factory(talk)22:09, 20 November 2011 (UTC)reply
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Nominator's rationale:Rename. I created this category, but I think the name is could be refined. Would appreciate other comments. My rationale was that there are some awards that are both state or military, such as
Order of the White Eagle (Poland) that do not fit into either civilian or state categories. I'd also like to create a
Category:State awards and decorations that would be a parent cat to those civilian and military categories, as well as to the mixed ones. I am no expert on the subject, and perhaps this category and the one I created for recipients is redundant if all the state military and civilian orders fall under
Category:Orders of knighthood? Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus|
talk to me22:46, 7 November 2011 (UTC)reply
Delete too broad and intertwined to be meaningful. Some soldier who gets some good conduct award from country X has nothing to do with someone getting a knighthood from QEII each of whom fits in this wideranging category.
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01:21, 10 November 2011 (UTC)reply
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Indifferent as creator. I'm guessing a template was feeding this category so I created it so the template wouldn't be filling an undefined void? Honestly I don't know - it's apparently been years, so whatever the outcome... cool with me.
JPG-GR (
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07:16, 16 October 2011 (UTC)reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
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Nominator's rationale:Delete Not enough stuff to warrant a category. There's just a subcategory and a template. (As far as I'm concerned, templates should not even appear in article categories.)
Pichpich (
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02:45, 7 November 2011 (UTC)reply
Comment I've removed the template. I'm not sure which policy/guideline states that such templates should not be categorized in the same categories as articles, but I've never seen it and it would be unprecedented.
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04:30, 7 November 2011 (UTC)reply
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Nominator's rationale:Delete We classify radio stations according to
radio format but "classic hip-hop" is not a radio format. It's also not a subgenre of hip-hop and no two hip-hop experts will ever agree on a common definition of the term. This makes it unsuitable as the basis for a category.
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Amendment to nomination. In in light of the comments of the creator of the category and the fact he has already emptied the category in the order he thinks it should be I have reversed my nomination. However I am still at loss to understand the claim that Stryder has only written 3 songs when there were 5 in the songs by songwriter category and 15-odd in the music by category.--
Richhoncho (
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09:42, 7 November 2011 (UTC)reply
Response. Now I am completely confused. The only contributor to the list article also says Stryder is NOT a songwriter. If anybody can sort this out while I take a pill and lie down for a while... Cheers. --
Richhoncho (
talk)
12:49, 7 November 2011 (UTC)reply
Reply to comments – I have re-formatted the list of the 16 songs on
List of Tinchy Stryder songs for correction. Their was ment to be a composer by Kwasi Danquah aka
Tinchy Stryder section when the article (
List of Tinchy Stryder songs) was first created by me, but it was not and instead I putted Kwasi Danquah aka Tinchy Stryder in the section of songwriter, which would make anybody confused as to Kwasi Danquah aka
Tinchy Stryder being the co-writer of that particular song on the
List of Tinchy Stryder songs. So I have now corrected the format on the "list of Tinchy Stryder songs" and it now shows Kwasi Danquah aka
Tinchy Stryder as composer not as a co-writer of a particular song on the list.
MarkMysoe (
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02:54, 8 November 2011 (UTC)reply
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Category:Angry Birds
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Nominator's rationale:Delete I'd be willing to bet that the Angry Birds franchise will continue to give rise to new articles in the future. But this seems premature. There are only two articles and that includes the main article. The two articles are, obviously, properly linked to one another and the category adds nothing in terms of ease of browsing.
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No, the other discussion does not propose deleting the 1st–3rd category, but two others. This cat thus was not tagged for discussion, and it would not be procedurally correct to make a change without a new discussion— which has now begun :).-
choster (
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05:08, 8 November 2011 (UTC)reply
Point of order 2 If the first case is carried, then there will be nothing to merge into if this is also carried. This is premature and presumptuous. Await the outcome of the first case.
Laurel Lodged (
talk)
20:16, 8 November 2011 (UTC)reply
Technical point - The other discussion (proposing merging two other categories into this one) has been closed as no merge/keep, therefore this discussion may proceed as before.
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00:24, 9 November 2011 (UTC)reply
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AGK[•]17:37, 4 December 2011 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale: These two categories overlap in contents. While there are articles that could be written that fit here and don't have to do with the Middle East, these aren't them.--
Mike Selinker (
talk)
00:43, 7 November 2011 (UTC)reply
Weak keep As the nominator tacitly points out, the
Arab World is larger than the
Middle East (encompassing most of
North Africa as well), plus there are several states in the Middle East--e.g.
Iran,
Israel--which aren't Arab-majority. There is inevitably going to be some redundancy/overlap or some awkwarldly-precise wording no matter what you do. I guess since there is a main article with this name, it's worth keeping at this point. If something changes in the article namespace, the categories should follow. I don't really have a horse in this race otherwise. —
Justin (koavf)❤
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00:58, 7 November 2011 (UTC)reply
I agree there's quite a bit of overlap, but it is true that the Middle East and the Arab World are two distinct regions with some overlaps. However, whether there is significant differences in U.S. foreign policy respecting the two different regions is more doubtful, I would say. (Would GW Bush have been able to articulate the difference between the two? I kind of doubt it.) So maybe we really need to come up with a better generic term to merge both of these in to.
Good Ol’factory(talk)22:09, 20 November 2011 (UTC)reply
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