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Oppose - This is a useful navigational hub where you can find everything about the band in one place, that is the purpose of categorisation, both here and in general. Ease of access is the key.
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Delete - consensus and precedent are loud and clear. If the material on a band is limited to members, albums and songs subcats and the band's article, it's
overcategorization. Hundreds of such categories have been deleted over the last year because they are unnecessary. This category is unnecessary, because the article on the band serves as a perfect navigational hub for this material.
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Keep --Fictional wetlands need to be kept separate from real wetlands. If the articles are deleted, the cat can be speedy deleted as empty. Until then, we need it.
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Nominator's rationale: The term "abandoned" implies a total neglect. And while that may hold true for some stations (e.g. Lilbourne, which is pictured), it doesn't hold true for all. Key to this category is their status: the relevant railway companies have stopped using them as railway stations. For these reasons, I think the term "disused" covers this category much better than "abandoned". Another option would be "defunct", which appears to be used for most daughters of
Category:Former buildings and structures by building type.
AecisBrievenbus17:04, 18 January 2008 (UTC)reply
I think we are in agreement, yes. I think we need to separate the railway stations that no longer physically exist from the railway stations that are no longer being used as such. I also think that the focus of the category currently under discussion should be railway stations that are no longer being used as such. For such railway stations, I think the term disused or defunct would be most appropriate.
AecisBrievenbus23:19, 18 January 2008 (UTC)reply
This issue has certainly been discussed fully here before - re Australia I think. I think I favour "former", but would like to see the last debate.
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Rename, if you wish, but please avoid 'defunct'. Here in the UK I have NEVER heard of a 'defunct' station of any kind. Disused, former, abandoned, redundant, closed even, but never 'defunct'. --
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support rename, if it's not a duplicate cat. "modern" is somewhat problematic in firearms, since by definition I'd call all semi-automatic pistols 'modern' (originating in the modern era, IE 20th century or later) and to further complicate things, some very old gun designs (IE the Colt 1911) are still in production and some guns that are out-of-production are still widely circulated on the trader market. I would, however, support the split of the category into subcategories for guns still in production, and guns that have ceased production. Or failing that guns by design year decade.
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Expand abbreviation per nom but expressing no opinion on whether this category should exist. Earlier discussion suggested upmerging and that may be the ultimately preferred choice. --
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Keep. They are different in the same way they are different for every nationality. Just because a mass murderer is Israeli doesn't immediately also make them a terrorist. Sure, all mass murderers inspire "terror" in others, but often it's the underlying intent that makes something "terrorism".
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Delete per nom - I can only find reference to images being uploaded to "articles" so unless someone can tell me otherwise these images shouldn't be on Category pages? It would be nice if this was explained at
WP:IUP though. Unless I've missed it?
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Oppose - This is a useful navigational hub where you can find everything about the band in one place, that is the purpose of categorisation, both here and in general. Ease of access is the key.
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19:36, 18 January 2008 (UTC)reply
Delete - consensus and precedent are loud and clear. If the material on a band is limited to members, albums and songs subcats and the band's article, it's
overcategorization. Hundreds of such categories have been deleted over the last year because they are unnecessary. This category is unnecessary, because the article on the band serves as a perfect navigational hub for this material.
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Keep --Fictional wetlands need to be kept separate from real wetlands. If the articles are deleted, the cat can be speedy deleted as empty. Until then, we need it.
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Nominator's rationale: The term "abandoned" implies a total neglect. And while that may hold true for some stations (e.g. Lilbourne, which is pictured), it doesn't hold true for all. Key to this category is their status: the relevant railway companies have stopped using them as railway stations. For these reasons, I think the term "disused" covers this category much better than "abandoned". Another option would be "defunct", which appears to be used for most daughters of
Category:Former buildings and structures by building type.
AecisBrievenbus17:04, 18 January 2008 (UTC)reply
I think we are in agreement, yes. I think we need to separate the railway stations that no longer physically exist from the railway stations that are no longer being used as such. I also think that the focus of the category currently under discussion should be railway stations that are no longer being used as such. For such railway stations, I think the term disused or defunct would be most appropriate.
AecisBrievenbus23:19, 18 January 2008 (UTC)reply
This issue has certainly been discussed fully here before - re Australia I think. I think I favour "former", but would like to see the last debate.
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22:25, 18 January 2008 (UTC)reply
Rename, if you wish, but please avoid 'defunct'. Here in the UK I have NEVER heard of a 'defunct' station of any kind. Disused, former, abandoned, redundant, closed even, but never 'defunct'. --
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support rename, if it's not a duplicate cat. "modern" is somewhat problematic in firearms, since by definition I'd call all semi-automatic pistols 'modern' (originating in the modern era, IE 20th century or later) and to further complicate things, some very old gun designs (IE the Colt 1911) are still in production and some guns that are out-of-production are still widely circulated on the trader market. I would, however, support the split of the category into subcategories for guns still in production, and guns that have ceased production. Or failing that guns by design year decade.
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Expand abbreviation per nom but expressing no opinion on whether this category should exist. Earlier discussion suggested upmerging and that may be the ultimately preferred choice. --
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Keep. They are different in the same way they are different for every nationality. Just because a mass murderer is Israeli doesn't immediately also make them a terrorist. Sure, all mass murderers inspire "terror" in others, but often it's the underlying intent that makes something "terrorism".
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Delete per nom - I can only find reference to images being uploaded to "articles" so unless someone can tell me otherwise these images shouldn't be on Category pages? It would be nice if this was explained at
WP:IUP though. Unless I've missed it?
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