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Lon Horiuchi – Outside commentators raised concern that article violates WP:BLP1E; article's main contributor disagreed. Sent to AfD for wider discussion – 22:10, 17 January 2008 (UTC) |
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Clear case of WP:BLP1E. It's also demonstrated an actual history of abuse. Redirect it. I've deleted the talk page history outright. It's just templates and BLP violations (some more severe than the one quoted above). Cool Hand Luke 20:27, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
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User:Joie de Vivre, since retired from WIkipedia, seems to have spread rather widely across the bios of fantasy illustrators allegations that one Jan McRae plagiarized the art of various illustrators. All of these various allegations are referenced to a single website: xfamily.org which does not meet the criteria of a reliable source. I removed the allegations from the bios of Rowena Morrill and Boris Vallejo, but they still remain in the bios of Keith Parkinson, Clyde Caldwell, Michael Whelan, Larry Elmore, Julie Bell, A. Andrew Gonzalez and in the article Children of God. A superficial look suggests that the only other references to this on the Internet are on sites that scrape data from WIkipedia.
These allegations seem to have been up on Wikipedia for about a year. What should be done here? -- Pleasantville ( talk) 20:39, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
Not much significance frankly. And Wikipedia is not a tenure decision committee. Thanks.-- Filll ( talk) 21:00, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
This fact that I removed part of was mentioned by the BBC, an obviously reliable source, but per WP:HARM (just an essay, I know) it's not necessary to mention that particular detail. Do you think I was right to do this?-- h i s s p a c e r e s e a r c h 00:29, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
This article is continually vandalized by some person or persons. In the section detailing books written by this economic commentator, a fictitious book has been repeatedly inserted. The fake book is listed in the same manner as the others, complete with a (presumably, imaginary) ISBN number. The fake book is usually titled # A Bear in America: How I Predicted 11 of the Last 3 Recessions ( ISBN 1400133479 Parameter error in {{ ISBN}}: checksum).
I and others have removed this material repeatedly in the past few days; but I'm tired of acting as a watchdog for this material. Is there any way to secure this article to prevent this from happening again? My first instinct was to suggest that we limit contributions to this article to those from enrolled Wikipedians--but even that won't do, as the vandalism seems to be coming from both signed and unsigned "contributors". SteelWheel ( talk) 09:00, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
This is my second request for review of this article for BLP compliance. First one was in October 2007: [9] While there was no discussion at the BLP board, one month later User:FCYTravis removed partisan attacks: [10] However, recently User:Andranikpasha restored criticism from blatantly partisan sources to the article. [11] I would like to ask for a third party take on this issue. Thanks. -- Grandmaster ( talk) 11:18, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
[12] - John Gibson's page is filled with "criticisms" in an attempt to portray him as racist. The "criticism" includes multiple OPINIONS from Keith Olbermann, multiple OPINIONS from Media Matters for America..followed by links to criticism from salon.com, F.A.I.R., and Media Matters. All of these "sources" (MM, Olberman, Salon, FAIR) are all highly partisan. Their OPINIONS are featured on a FACT-BASED encyclopedia entry. Each of these liberal entities has accused Gibson of racism. Gibson's comments to not rise to the level of notability if the only people complaining about them are LIBERAL OPINION websites and commentary.
The page has declared in violation of the non-POV rules, and the Media Matters talking points were scrubbed from the page. But they have returned. My attempts to edit out the blatant opinions are met with an autoresponder accusing me of potential vandalism and the edits revert right back to the page being nothing more than hit piece on Gibson written by liberal attack dogs.
David Howe (claimant to King of Mann) – AfD debate and SSP case closed; RfA opened. – 14:52, 18 January 2008 (UTC) |
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David Howe (claimant to King of Mann) ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) This page is constantly being edit by user Heraldic and a few others logging on under IP addresses ignoring WP NPOV and WP BLP, despite having these issues addressed to them on the article's discussion page. Heraldic has now begun posting comments on the discussion page with links to his self-published website.-- Lazydown ( talk) 18:46, 26 December 2007 (UTC) Still big problems on this page. Now editors are attmepting to skew NPOV by removing a standard cited source, style and nature used in many BLPs, Ancestry.com. One World Tree, Thomas Stanley II to David Drew Howe, on line database. Provo, Utah. The Generations Network, Inc., retrieved 27, December.-- Lazydown ( talk) 17:10, 27 December 2007 (UTC) As a point of reference the Anna Nicole Smith biography page has been rated a class B. It has at least eight citations for Ancestry.com and cited the same standard way that my citation has been made.-- Lazydown ( talk) 17:34, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
Is it possible to get a few more eyes on David Howe (claimant to King of Mann)?-- Hu12 ( talk) 14:44, 8 January 2008 (UTC) |
The above is an archived Biographies of living persons incident concerning the article above. Please do not modify it. |
A request for resolution of issues on James Hansen) is requested. In short it is regarding a rather inflammatory quote from Hansen, and the context in which it should be presented.
-- Kim D. Petersen ( talk) 23:52, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
We are now at the point where i believe that BLP has been broken. The "wrong version" :) was on the page at protection time.( protect) I believe that the following cherry-picked quote on James Hansen, is a violation of BLP:
There are a few reasons for this:
Hopefully you will take a look at it now. -- Kim D. Petersen ( talk) 19:20, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
This quote appears to me to be notable in that it received enough publicity that he felt it necessary to further comment. In that further comment he did not recant the remark, but apologized if people took offense at the specific metaphor. To say that it is not "Hansens style" appears to need some backing up with what his style is. But it looks to me more of a dispute over "I don't like it" and ownership of the article than BLP. Can you provide a suitable example from WP:BLP that you feel applies? Crmanriq ( talk) 19:41, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
Here's the NY Times article: "he likened coal trains that serve high-emitting power plants to “death trains.” --with a link to the full Hansen quote. And Hansen's "apology" isn't much of one -- here's his proposed alternate metaphor: "Can these crashing glaciers serve as a Krystal Nacht [sic, emphasis added], and wake us up to the inhumane consequences of averting our eyes?" So much for Nazi name-calling not being Dr Hansen's style. Pete Tillman ( talk) 00:53, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
I respectfully request that KD Petersen's complaint of a BLP violation be dismissed. It appears, from third-party comments above, that she simply misread the BLP requirements, and no such violation occurred. User:Crmanriq 03:31, 16 January 2008 (UTC) ably summarizes the situation. Thank you, Pete Tillman ( talk) 20:05, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
The first line of Michael Bloombergs biography states that he is an American businessman and philanderer, instead of philanthropist...Come on! Was that intentional? When you go on the site to try to edit it, the word does not even come up in the editable text... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.54.94.7 ( talk) 03:05, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
I have no involvement with this article and not a great deal of knowledge of the subject, but I feel that it could do with some oversight from BLP regulars. It's essentially about those "Obama is a Muslim" smears that seem to have been going around lately. Some editors plainly want to use the article as a coatrack to propagate the smears - see e.g. [16] from a user who's now banned. To be honest, I'm uneasy about whether we should have an article of this sort at all - is it really encyclopedic to document smear campaigns, given that WP:IINFO#Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information? -- ChrisO ( talk) 00:47, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
This article appears to be referenced, but contains allegations that may be defamatory, therefore it probably needs to be inspected more closely by someone who's familiar with the subject matter (Indian Politics). It didn't have a Living tag on it until a few minutes ago, so it's been escaping living person patrol until now. - Stephanie Daugherty (Triona) - Talk - Comment - 12:33, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
A Blog recently posted a story about his private life. I don't think that it counts as a reliable source so I have been removing it from the article whilst others put it back. Could we have a few more eyes on the article for a couple of days? -- RicDod ( talk) 23:02, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
I resent not being considered a reliable source and suspect you will have to eat your words very shortly. Guido —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.45.211.141 ( talk) 23:22, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
John Yoo ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
John Yoo is an individual associated with the US government who is accused of being responsible for government wrongdoing. There is a section of two paragraphs (War crimes accusations) that is being re-inserted that only cites a court-related document at the Center for Constitutional Rights web site (which is currently an invalid page) and (indirectly) a book called The Terror Presidency. One of the editors used a minor edit summary to re-insert the paragraphs, and one of the paragraphs was written by a user whose edit history consists of two edits: one to John Yoo, and one to Talk:John Yoo. As a side note, is there a Times v Sullivan style exception for BLP? Thanks, Andjam ( talk) 00:42, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
We may not like it but WP:V allows us to add information even if it is uncomfortable to certain individuals. Nomen Nescio Gnothi seauton 11:54, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
American Jewish Congress ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) - The material about allegations against Israel Singer goes much further than the Israel Singer article does, and, I think, beyond the sources cited. Please see the article's talk page. David in DC ( talk) 01:55, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
Since he reportedly just died, tons of vandalism has occurred. It'd probably be best to either lock it or limit the editting. 24.211.23.77 ( talk)
Indeed - the current entry says high levels of heroin were found in his bloodstream, which is impossible to determine considering his body was only found 1 1/2 hours ago. A toxicology report can usually take weeks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.64.143.2 ( talk) 22:01, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
And now there's a penis. Fun times. 143.246.7.155 ( talk) 22:18, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
please can you remove the offensive comment following heath ledgers death "WHO CARES HE PLAYED A GAY GUY" cheers, Rhee
NEW VANDALISM- huge penis!
PLEASE LOCK THAT THREAD, THERE ARE ALL SORTS OF RUDE AND TYPICAL SOCIOLOGICAL DISTORTIONS BEING USED. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.44.37.167 ( talk) 22:11, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
Someone has posted a rather large picture of their penis on the heath ledger page!!!
Someone has put a picture of erect male genitalia on this page that pops up when you enter it.
Ah the joys of the internet. Just wanted to make people aware that the page has been vandalized with an image that covers the entire page.
Someone has edited the Heath Ledger wikipedia page so a large-size photograph of a penis scrolls with the screen. Please remove this, it is extremely inappropriate, especially for any young females who may be looking at the page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.230.120.179 ( talk) 22:20, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
There is never a dull moment with this article. See previous reports at: at COIN, and on this noticeboard back on 17 October. The subject of the article, Viktor Kozeny, has been chased by various courts and governments due to financial misdeeds that were widely covered in reliable sources. Last time around, someone promoting the interests of the subject insisted on reverting to his preferred (innocuous) version. That editor was eventually blocked. This time, an IP editor who wants to gild the lily insists on adding nasty and defamatory wording to what is already there, without adding any new sources. I have reverted his latest change, but would appreciate if others can keep an eye on it. If he reverts back, I suggest that semi-protection or a block might be considered. (Naturally, you should take a look at my change to ensure that I didn't overdo it). EdJohnston ( talk) 04:59, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
Sir Edmund Hillary, more affectionately known as Sir Ed has passed away this morning at 9 AM at Auckland City Hospital, his wikipedia page has been changed to announce his death in New Zealand Time but people have been changing the dates and times from what its supposed to be (11th January 2008 9:00AM) to Hawaii time or even other time zones, ppl have been warned in the article discussion not to do so but i think it happened a couple of times. In respect to this great man i wish for his article to be semi protected or protected against changes made to any details of his death. Thank you.
203.109.215.123 ( talk) 06:01, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
After Everest "Hillary climbed ten other peaks in the Himalayas on further visits in 1956, 1960–61 and 1963–65. He also reached the South Pole..." would be more correct to say: "Hillary climbed ten other peaks in the Himalayas on [later or subsequent] visits in 1956, 1960–61 and 1963–65. He also reached the South Pole..." He was an adventurer and as such understood the distinction between distance (as in further) and time (as in later)! :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jdowd108 ( talk • contribs) 15:37, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
I was mistaken about further.
These two words are commonly used interchangeably, but there is a difference between them.
"Farther" refers to physical or geographic distance.
Example: The apartment I want is farther from my office.
"Further" is more abstract. It refers to time or degree or quantity. It's another way of saying "additional."
Examples:
I have to look further into the question of moving farther from my office.
There was no further discussion.
ladyjane | Sep-28-05 10:24AM
Use farther when you're talking about physical distances.
Farther down the road.
They're further along in their plans than I expected. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jdowd108 ( talk • contribs) 15:47, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
Due to Heath Ledger's death, this page is undergoing frequent vandalism and the frequent addition of unverified rumors. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ahecht ( talk • contribs) 23:04, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
This looks like a clear case of WP:BLP1E. There doesn't seem to be anything else notable about this person other than being a relative of a famous person. If this had been any other crime, there wouldn't be an article here. Opinions? Corvus cornix talk 03:20, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
Icelandic media is reporting that Bobby Fischer has died. Could we have some experienced eyes on that article for the next few days? Haukur ( talk) 11:23, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
Page has blatant untrue information throughout it. Please fix ASAP. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hornet2934 ( talk • contribs) 17:45, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
As a result of the userspace issue mentioned above, I looked over a few of the Wikipedia articles on organized crime. These articles are terrible, an absolute hotbed of blatant BLP violations. In less than 5 minutes I found the following: Colombo crime family — unsourced allegations that specific named individuals are "capos," "leaders," "soldiers" and so forth; Genovese crime family which includes a long list of names sourced to a Geocities page; Chicago Outfit with 50 to 100 unreferenced names. Frankly, some of these articles are so bad that they should probably be deleted entirely and started over. At the least, I think they should be stubbed and all BLP-infringing content removed. *** Crotalus *** 23:07, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
"Marcel Schlutt". – The user Aussie2 changed the content of the Wiki article three times without featuring any new facts and sources! Repeatedly Aussie2 writes that Marcel had won several prizes at equestrian sports at an early age of four but he never shows any references to proof it. In an interview for a tiny privately-operated homepage in Berlin, Marcel just claims to have won those awards but he was unable to proof it. In addition, Aussie2 erased the known facts about Marcel’s various jobs! Marcel is very well known in Germany’s gay scene because over many years he loved to appear in public jobs. He worked successfully for a Pay-TV’s gay sex show, several porn companies and escort websites. But Aussie2 repeatedly erases the proven job descriptions ‚escort’ and ‚porn actor’ because he only likes to mention the more accepted jobs, like i.e. ‚fashion model’, ‚author’ and ‚photographer’. In reality, Marcel never wrote a book, he only wrote several short articles (columns) for a gay magazine. Marcel never made a living as a photographer but a few of his snapshots were printed a compilation book about skaters. Since 2004, Marcel announced twice to end his porn/escort career but even though he appears in new adult videos; the last one so far in 2007. Therefore Berlin’s biggest gay city rag Siegessaeule and Europe’s gay sex rag Erexxion already made fun of this bizarre farewell/ comeback/ farewell/ comeback career. Aussie2 obviously tries to eliminate Marcel’s real profitable money-making professions by emphasizing the little part-time jobs. It looks like Aussie2 is trying to smoothen Marcel’s biography. Wiki better should stick to the facts! Thank you very much.// Germany2799 ( talk) 18:44, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
User:MichaelBergman when uploading Image:Website_shots_036.jpg on 00:32, 6 January 2008 stated "I, Frank Howson, own this image of myself as it was a self-portrait." thereby claiming to be Frank Howson! Since User:MichaelBergman has been a major contributor to this article (and an editor to numerous other Biographies of living people associated with Frank Howson) this may present significant problems: Autobiographies tend not to have a Neutral Point of View (NPOV) and contain Conflict of Interest (COI) issues. Since 09:41, 12 August 2007 I have also contributed significantly to this article wikifying it and providing references. I have also edited other articles visited by User:MichaelBergman and so do not feel sufficiently unbiased to resolve issues involved. I request intervention by a suitable Administrator. I suggest also considering contributions by User:124.190.242.6 and User: 124.190.244.2 as possibly by same author. I have placed this same notice on User talk:MichaelBergman page and Talk: Frank Howson but believe that User:MichaelBergman may not read these pages (numerous notices seem to have gone by without any response). Shaidar cuebiyar ( talk) 15:47, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
Patriarch Alexius II ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). This article had reach an equilibrium, in which accusations about Patriarch Alexei's past involvement were documented in a manner that was in mostly in keeping with NPOV and WP:BLP, although an administrator had noted that too much of the article was focused on accusations against Patriarch Alexei, and that it needed to be more balance, however, Biophys ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) decided to expand the article by expanding the accusations into the rest of the Biography, and asserting them as biographical facts. I attempted to deal with it via edits and the talk page, but am taking it here as the only alternative to an edit war on the matter. Frjohnwhiteford ( talk) 20:59, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
Biophys has inserted yet more negative rumours/controversial information, this time into the 'Career' section rather than the 'Controversies' section, certainly a violation of WP:BLP IMO. The article is indeed a violation of WP:NPOV and WP:BLP as about 90-95% of this article is devoted to negative rumours.-- Miyokan ( talk) 02:05, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
The remedy from the Admins I would request here is this: Roll back this article to this edit. And ask Biophys to engage in constructive edits that do not violate WP:BLP and which provide a fair and balanced treatment of the subject. Frjohnwhiteford ( talk) 16:00, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
BTW, while we are waiting for some outside intervention, the article is only becoming less balanced, as more slanted and biased. Is there an Admin in the house? Frjohnwhiteford ( talk) 00:13, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
BTW, here is another example of Biophys engaging in POV pushing and clearly violating the WP:BLP policy from an article I have had nothing to do with:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Yevgenia_Albats#Edward_Kennedy_as_a_KGB_collaborator
Interestingly, once again painting people with the KGB broad brush is the subject. Frjohnwhiteford ( talk) 04:25, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
there is a controversy in the article about j.j. johanson. it says that "there is a change in his music with the album relased in 2002". on the contrary the same album is shown as been relased in 2003 at the bottom of the page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.243.222.24 ( talk) 14:38, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
There's conflicting evidence regarding Monica Bellucci's age and date of birth. It's being discussed on Talk:Monica Bellucci#Age, sort-of, but anon IPs keep reverting and there is no agreement from sources on the accurate age. Note this statement at the NNDB, which I don't think is incredibly reliable, but it's the only explicit discussion of this I've seen. Help! WLU ( talk) 15:06, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
Onorem asked me about this. That took me to Special:Contributions/Little Joe Shots, which in turn took me to all of these ( Special:Prefixindex/User:Alexbonaro/):
There's nothing wrong with using userspace as a platform for article development. Indeed, that's one of the things that userspace is there for. But the way that this development is being done, by the users themselves and by editors without accounts, is somewhat troubling. This appears to be less article development and more a collection of primary source materials, being written and collected by Wikipedia editors directly and hosted in Wikipedia userspace as a supposedly "reliable resource" for people to consult.
The pages appear to be collections of accusations that specifically named people are criminals, or dead, sourced solely to discussion forum postings by people known only by pseudonyms such as "Pogo", or obtained directly by primary research. Particularly troubling are things such as the notice at the top of User:Alexbonaro/Bonanno crime family circa 1991, the I-got-this-information-from-a-guy-named-Jiggy statement on User talk:Alexbonaro/LA chart circa 1954, and the responses to accusations of inaccuracy at User talk:Alexbonaro/Timeline of Detroit mob murders and User talk:Alexbonaro/present day Milwaukee crime family.
Alexbonaro ( talk · contribs) hasn't edited since September 2007. Little Joe Shots ( talk · contribs) hasn't edited since November 2007. Various modifications to the pages, including some that dispute the pages' contents ( example), have been reverted as vandalism since. My first inclination is to just blank all of the pages. Please discuss and take appropriate action. Uncle G ( talk) 15:30, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
Can someone please talk to Irvine22 ( talk · contribs) regarding his BLP-violating and counterfactual edits to the Wikipedia article about me, David Eppstein? Thanks. — David Eppstein ( talk) 00:31, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
Would somebody take a look at Marcos_Baghdatis#2008_Australian_Open_controversy? It needs a POV-ectomy. Corvus cornix talk 03:40, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
An I.P. is insisting on inserting the adjective "struggling" into this article to describe the show that Rancic hosts. Initially, the I.P. was doing so without references; and I reverted it as a blatant WP:BLP violation. References have since been inserted, and I'm at my 3RR limit anyway. My opinion is that, even sourced, this information violated WP:BLP, but I told the I.P. that if she/he provided references, I'd try to solicit some other editors' opinions (and, like I said, I'm at my 3RR limit anyway). Eyes would be appreciated - the conversation between the I.P. and me is centralized here. Sarcasticidealist ( talk) 06:45, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
Link #4 goes to an internet porn site where a copy of an article on Clemons from the Bartlesville, Oklahoma Examiner Enterprise has been placed.
The link to the original article: http://www.examiner-enterprise.com/articles/2006/01/25/news/2578.txt
I'd change it myself but assume those responsible for the article would rather do the deed.
207.68.209.19 ( talk) 20:05, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
Zonbalance —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zonbalance ( talk • contribs) 05:03, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
I present edits removing sources and sourced information made by User:GrahameKing in Primal Therapy: [20] [21] [22] [23] [24]
Please note that User:GrahameKing express allegedly WP:BLP-related worries only in case of criticism against Arthur Janov. On the other hand User:GrahameKing is extremely liberal inserting lines of criticism made by Janov against other living persons, calling them "charlatans", "would-be practioners", "inexpert", "abusive therapists" and "lacking the empathy and technical knowledge necessary" [29].
Unlike him/her, I am not advocating the block from the article of User:GrahameKing (he/she made very good contributions to the article, despite some destructive edits). I am only providing the whole picture about User:GrahameKing, whose statements -IMHO- should be taken cum grano salis.
This is obviously a complex, long-running dispute. Whatever the history of the participants, I am inclined to agree with GrahameKing that linking to debunking primal therapy is problematic. The site does nto meet reliable sourcing requirements, which would not necessarily eliminate it as an external link, but the subpage mentioned specifically ( here) certainly contains unverified negative allegations about a living person. That said, I tend to think that more constructive work on the articles might happen with more open-minded, cooperative conversation about them on the talk page. The issues here go beyond BLP into content dispute, and, if the warnings about edit warring issued to the two primary editors of the article do not take effect, I would be inclined to recommend seeking page protection until the dispute can be ironed out properly at the article's talk page. -- Moonriddengirl (talk) 13:57, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
Zonbalance Zonbalance
A question was raised above at Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons/Noticeboard#Primal_Therapy regarding the appropriateness of this external link under BLP policy. This subpage includes unverifiable contentious claims regarding living persons. I have opined above in response to the question that I feel its inclusion is inappropriate, as BLP requires that ELs be fully compliant with WP:EL, which states that "material available solely in questionable sources or sources of dubious value should be handled with caution, and, if derogatory, should not be used at all, either as sources or via external links". The link is offered as a source or an EL in each of the above articles. I would appreciate feedback from others as to whether it presents a significant enough issue as regards BLP to warrant immediate removal, particularly as one of those articles is protected against edit warring. Pretty please and thanks. :) -- Moonriddengirl (talk) 14:51, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
This article needs a good hard look at it, due to possible non-neutral point of view sources, undue weight, and BLP violations. The result of a recent AfD on this article was that the subject had satisfied the notability criteria for membership, but there were numerous expressed concerns about the article and possible BLP violations. Could everyone give this the proverbial once-over (if not three or four times over) to determine what needs to be in the article, what is superfluous to the article, and what needs to be relentlessly scourged from the article? ArbCom member FT2 stated that this board would be able to effect any changes needed to comply with BLP, even though the article is part of a case currently before ArbCom. Link to diff. Thanks. SirFozzie ( talk) 06:04, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
Someone is repeatedly trying to add a section to Amy Macdonald(singer) wikipedia page. The section 'controversy' has been removed by many various times as the information is poorly sourced and reflects badly on Amy Macdonald.
Could you ensure that this section is never added again. —Preceding
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16:23, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
Minor vandalism adding dubious claims with unverifiable refs. Likely a sock or troll of some sort. If other could watchlist, please do. Benjiboi 04:57, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
Several edits like this Diff have been made by different editors tonight I removed it twice suggesting that a written references was required for BLP. Please give me a reality check. Jeepday ( talk) 04:39, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
Pistolpierre ( talk · contribs) who has numerous blocks for trolling/soapboxing and edit warring has been re-adding WP:BLP vio accusations on the article for Jimmy Page. He keeps labelling Page as a pedophile because he dated a fourteen year old girl. His relationship with the girl is already mentioned in the article. It's a well documented fact. But another well documented fact is that Page has never ever been charged... or so much as questioned about his relationship with Maddox. Pistolpierre is persistently re-adding his POV skewed content(he is up to 6 or 7 reverts by now) and labelling a living person with a crime that the living person was never charged for. He is also trying to add original research that Page wearing a Nazi General's hat during a single performance in Chicago has some sort of derogatory hidden meaning or implication about the artist. He wore a hat. He was pictured wearing the hat. But the fact is... beyond that simple fact... 'he wore a hat'... there is no verifiable evil misdoing that Pistolpierre keeps trying to imply. 142.167.87.205 ( talk) 21:26, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
hello
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joss_Stone
it says at the top of the talk page of joss stone's Biographies of living persons page that no libelous things to be posted and report any if people see some, 'the brit awards' section really has nothing to do with the biography of someone which wikipedia is about this is the meaning of libel: a malicious publication printed for the purpose of defaming a living person. look up malicious and defaming if you don't understand, and i and many other people belivie this is and libelous thing i read the Biographies of living persons and i like it said their this is an encyclopedia not a tabloid paper and the things written down are from sources like gossip magazines and websites and tabloid papers and if you read the talk page for that acticle the users on their seem to gossip and things that have nothing to do with joss stones biography and carer information and are really personal and not actual facts nor are the comments on "the brits awards" awards section they and opinons of someone and is words badly.
i did many times try to change it buy rewording it but it people keep changing it back so please can people thing about changing or removing it as it's really just peoples way of defaming her and on the talk page before it edited it people was gossiping about her and said things that sounded like they were writing that on the perpose of daming that person.
thank you for reading and please send me message back or delete it or change to wording alease please thank you
User:Eddiehosa removed a paragraph discussing Eddie Ho's photography of the AF358 evacuation and the controversy surrounding taking photographs during an evacuation. See: Talk:Air_France_Flight_358#Eddie_Ho_and_the_picture_taking_controversy WhisperToMe ( talk) 01:43, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
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Clear case of WP:BLP1E. It's also demonstrated an actual history of abuse. Redirect it. I've deleted the talk page history outright. It's just templates and BLP violations (some more severe than the one quoted above). Cool Hand Luke 20:27, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
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User:Joie de Vivre, since retired from WIkipedia, seems to have spread rather widely across the bios of fantasy illustrators allegations that one Jan McRae plagiarized the art of various illustrators. All of these various allegations are referenced to a single website: xfamily.org which does not meet the criteria of a reliable source. I removed the allegations from the bios of Rowena Morrill and Boris Vallejo, but they still remain in the bios of Keith Parkinson, Clyde Caldwell, Michael Whelan, Larry Elmore, Julie Bell, A. Andrew Gonzalez and in the article Children of God. A superficial look suggests that the only other references to this on the Internet are on sites that scrape data from WIkipedia.
These allegations seem to have been up on Wikipedia for about a year. What should be done here? -- Pleasantville ( talk) 20:39, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
Not much significance frankly. And Wikipedia is not a tenure decision committee. Thanks.-- Filll ( talk) 21:00, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
This fact that I removed part of was mentioned by the BBC, an obviously reliable source, but per WP:HARM (just an essay, I know) it's not necessary to mention that particular detail. Do you think I was right to do this?-- h i s s p a c e r e s e a r c h 00:29, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
This article is continually vandalized by some person or persons. In the section detailing books written by this economic commentator, a fictitious book has been repeatedly inserted. The fake book is listed in the same manner as the others, complete with a (presumably, imaginary) ISBN number. The fake book is usually titled # A Bear in America: How I Predicted 11 of the Last 3 Recessions ( ISBN 1400133479 Parameter error in {{ ISBN}}: checksum).
I and others have removed this material repeatedly in the past few days; but I'm tired of acting as a watchdog for this material. Is there any way to secure this article to prevent this from happening again? My first instinct was to suggest that we limit contributions to this article to those from enrolled Wikipedians--but even that won't do, as the vandalism seems to be coming from both signed and unsigned "contributors". SteelWheel ( talk) 09:00, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
This is my second request for review of this article for BLP compliance. First one was in October 2007: [9] While there was no discussion at the BLP board, one month later User:FCYTravis removed partisan attacks: [10] However, recently User:Andranikpasha restored criticism from blatantly partisan sources to the article. [11] I would like to ask for a third party take on this issue. Thanks. -- Grandmaster ( talk) 11:18, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
[12] - John Gibson's page is filled with "criticisms" in an attempt to portray him as racist. The "criticism" includes multiple OPINIONS from Keith Olbermann, multiple OPINIONS from Media Matters for America..followed by links to criticism from salon.com, F.A.I.R., and Media Matters. All of these "sources" (MM, Olberman, Salon, FAIR) are all highly partisan. Their OPINIONS are featured on a FACT-BASED encyclopedia entry. Each of these liberal entities has accused Gibson of racism. Gibson's comments to not rise to the level of notability if the only people complaining about them are LIBERAL OPINION websites and commentary.
The page has declared in violation of the non-POV rules, and the Media Matters talking points were scrubbed from the page. But they have returned. My attempts to edit out the blatant opinions are met with an autoresponder accusing me of potential vandalism and the edits revert right back to the page being nothing more than hit piece on Gibson written by liberal attack dogs.
David Howe (claimant to King of Mann) – AfD debate and SSP case closed; RfA opened. – 14:52, 18 January 2008 (UTC) |
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David Howe (claimant to King of Mann) ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) This page is constantly being edit by user Heraldic and a few others logging on under IP addresses ignoring WP NPOV and WP BLP, despite having these issues addressed to them on the article's discussion page. Heraldic has now begun posting comments on the discussion page with links to his self-published website.-- Lazydown ( talk) 18:46, 26 December 2007 (UTC) Still big problems on this page. Now editors are attmepting to skew NPOV by removing a standard cited source, style and nature used in many BLPs, Ancestry.com. One World Tree, Thomas Stanley II to David Drew Howe, on line database. Provo, Utah. The Generations Network, Inc., retrieved 27, December.-- Lazydown ( talk) 17:10, 27 December 2007 (UTC) As a point of reference the Anna Nicole Smith biography page has been rated a class B. It has at least eight citations for Ancestry.com and cited the same standard way that my citation has been made.-- Lazydown ( talk) 17:34, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
Is it possible to get a few more eyes on David Howe (claimant to King of Mann)?-- Hu12 ( talk) 14:44, 8 January 2008 (UTC) |
The above is an archived Biographies of living persons incident concerning the article above. Please do not modify it. |
A request for resolution of issues on James Hansen) is requested. In short it is regarding a rather inflammatory quote from Hansen, and the context in which it should be presented.
-- Kim D. Petersen ( talk) 23:52, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
We are now at the point where i believe that BLP has been broken. The "wrong version" :) was on the page at protection time.( protect) I believe that the following cherry-picked quote on James Hansen, is a violation of BLP:
There are a few reasons for this:
Hopefully you will take a look at it now. -- Kim D. Petersen ( talk) 19:20, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
This quote appears to me to be notable in that it received enough publicity that he felt it necessary to further comment. In that further comment he did not recant the remark, but apologized if people took offense at the specific metaphor. To say that it is not "Hansens style" appears to need some backing up with what his style is. But it looks to me more of a dispute over "I don't like it" and ownership of the article than BLP. Can you provide a suitable example from WP:BLP that you feel applies? Crmanriq ( talk) 19:41, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
Here's the NY Times article: "he likened coal trains that serve high-emitting power plants to “death trains.” --with a link to the full Hansen quote. And Hansen's "apology" isn't much of one -- here's his proposed alternate metaphor: "Can these crashing glaciers serve as a Krystal Nacht [sic, emphasis added], and wake us up to the inhumane consequences of averting our eyes?" So much for Nazi name-calling not being Dr Hansen's style. Pete Tillman ( talk) 00:53, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
I respectfully request that KD Petersen's complaint of a BLP violation be dismissed. It appears, from third-party comments above, that she simply misread the BLP requirements, and no such violation occurred. User:Crmanriq 03:31, 16 January 2008 (UTC) ably summarizes the situation. Thank you, Pete Tillman ( talk) 20:05, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
The first line of Michael Bloombergs biography states that he is an American businessman and philanderer, instead of philanthropist...Come on! Was that intentional? When you go on the site to try to edit it, the word does not even come up in the editable text... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.54.94.7 ( talk) 03:05, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
I have no involvement with this article and not a great deal of knowledge of the subject, but I feel that it could do with some oversight from BLP regulars. It's essentially about those "Obama is a Muslim" smears that seem to have been going around lately. Some editors plainly want to use the article as a coatrack to propagate the smears - see e.g. [16] from a user who's now banned. To be honest, I'm uneasy about whether we should have an article of this sort at all - is it really encyclopedic to document smear campaigns, given that WP:IINFO#Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information? -- ChrisO ( talk) 00:47, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
This article appears to be referenced, but contains allegations that may be defamatory, therefore it probably needs to be inspected more closely by someone who's familiar with the subject matter (Indian Politics). It didn't have a Living tag on it until a few minutes ago, so it's been escaping living person patrol until now. - Stephanie Daugherty (Triona) - Talk - Comment - 12:33, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
A Blog recently posted a story about his private life. I don't think that it counts as a reliable source so I have been removing it from the article whilst others put it back. Could we have a few more eyes on the article for a couple of days? -- RicDod ( talk) 23:02, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
I resent not being considered a reliable source and suspect you will have to eat your words very shortly. Guido —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.45.211.141 ( talk) 23:22, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
John Yoo ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
John Yoo is an individual associated with the US government who is accused of being responsible for government wrongdoing. There is a section of two paragraphs (War crimes accusations) that is being re-inserted that only cites a court-related document at the Center for Constitutional Rights web site (which is currently an invalid page) and (indirectly) a book called The Terror Presidency. One of the editors used a minor edit summary to re-insert the paragraphs, and one of the paragraphs was written by a user whose edit history consists of two edits: one to John Yoo, and one to Talk:John Yoo. As a side note, is there a Times v Sullivan style exception for BLP? Thanks, Andjam ( talk) 00:42, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
We may not like it but WP:V allows us to add information even if it is uncomfortable to certain individuals. Nomen Nescio Gnothi seauton 11:54, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
American Jewish Congress ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) - The material about allegations against Israel Singer goes much further than the Israel Singer article does, and, I think, beyond the sources cited. Please see the article's talk page. David in DC ( talk) 01:55, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
Since he reportedly just died, tons of vandalism has occurred. It'd probably be best to either lock it or limit the editting. 24.211.23.77 ( talk)
Indeed - the current entry says high levels of heroin were found in his bloodstream, which is impossible to determine considering his body was only found 1 1/2 hours ago. A toxicology report can usually take weeks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.64.143.2 ( talk) 22:01, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
And now there's a penis. Fun times. 143.246.7.155 ( talk) 22:18, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
please can you remove the offensive comment following heath ledgers death "WHO CARES HE PLAYED A GAY GUY" cheers, Rhee
NEW VANDALISM- huge penis!
PLEASE LOCK THAT THREAD, THERE ARE ALL SORTS OF RUDE AND TYPICAL SOCIOLOGICAL DISTORTIONS BEING USED. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.44.37.167 ( talk) 22:11, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
Someone has posted a rather large picture of their penis on the heath ledger page!!!
Someone has put a picture of erect male genitalia on this page that pops up when you enter it.
Ah the joys of the internet. Just wanted to make people aware that the page has been vandalized with an image that covers the entire page.
Someone has edited the Heath Ledger wikipedia page so a large-size photograph of a penis scrolls with the screen. Please remove this, it is extremely inappropriate, especially for any young females who may be looking at the page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.230.120.179 ( talk) 22:20, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
There is never a dull moment with this article. See previous reports at: at COIN, and on this noticeboard back on 17 October. The subject of the article, Viktor Kozeny, has been chased by various courts and governments due to financial misdeeds that were widely covered in reliable sources. Last time around, someone promoting the interests of the subject insisted on reverting to his preferred (innocuous) version. That editor was eventually blocked. This time, an IP editor who wants to gild the lily insists on adding nasty and defamatory wording to what is already there, without adding any new sources. I have reverted his latest change, but would appreciate if others can keep an eye on it. If he reverts back, I suggest that semi-protection or a block might be considered. (Naturally, you should take a look at my change to ensure that I didn't overdo it). EdJohnston ( talk) 04:59, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
Sir Edmund Hillary, more affectionately known as Sir Ed has passed away this morning at 9 AM at Auckland City Hospital, his wikipedia page has been changed to announce his death in New Zealand Time but people have been changing the dates and times from what its supposed to be (11th January 2008 9:00AM) to Hawaii time or even other time zones, ppl have been warned in the article discussion not to do so but i think it happened a couple of times. In respect to this great man i wish for his article to be semi protected or protected against changes made to any details of his death. Thank you.
203.109.215.123 ( talk) 06:01, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
After Everest "Hillary climbed ten other peaks in the Himalayas on further visits in 1956, 1960–61 and 1963–65. He also reached the South Pole..." would be more correct to say: "Hillary climbed ten other peaks in the Himalayas on [later or subsequent] visits in 1956, 1960–61 and 1963–65. He also reached the South Pole..." He was an adventurer and as such understood the distinction between distance (as in further) and time (as in later)! :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jdowd108 ( talk • contribs) 15:37, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
I was mistaken about further.
These two words are commonly used interchangeably, but there is a difference between them.
"Farther" refers to physical or geographic distance.
Example: The apartment I want is farther from my office.
"Further" is more abstract. It refers to time or degree or quantity. It's another way of saying "additional."
Examples:
I have to look further into the question of moving farther from my office.
There was no further discussion.
ladyjane | Sep-28-05 10:24AM
Use farther when you're talking about physical distances.
Farther down the road.
They're further along in their plans than I expected. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jdowd108 ( talk • contribs) 15:47, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
Due to Heath Ledger's death, this page is undergoing frequent vandalism and the frequent addition of unverified rumors. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ahecht ( talk • contribs) 23:04, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
This looks like a clear case of WP:BLP1E. There doesn't seem to be anything else notable about this person other than being a relative of a famous person. If this had been any other crime, there wouldn't be an article here. Opinions? Corvus cornix talk 03:20, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
Icelandic media is reporting that Bobby Fischer has died. Could we have some experienced eyes on that article for the next few days? Haukur ( talk) 11:23, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
Page has blatant untrue information throughout it. Please fix ASAP. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hornet2934 ( talk • contribs) 17:45, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
As a result of the userspace issue mentioned above, I looked over a few of the Wikipedia articles on organized crime. These articles are terrible, an absolute hotbed of blatant BLP violations. In less than 5 minutes I found the following: Colombo crime family — unsourced allegations that specific named individuals are "capos," "leaders," "soldiers" and so forth; Genovese crime family which includes a long list of names sourced to a Geocities page; Chicago Outfit with 50 to 100 unreferenced names. Frankly, some of these articles are so bad that they should probably be deleted entirely and started over. At the least, I think they should be stubbed and all BLP-infringing content removed. *** Crotalus *** 23:07, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
"Marcel Schlutt". – The user Aussie2 changed the content of the Wiki article three times without featuring any new facts and sources! Repeatedly Aussie2 writes that Marcel had won several prizes at equestrian sports at an early age of four but he never shows any references to proof it. In an interview for a tiny privately-operated homepage in Berlin, Marcel just claims to have won those awards but he was unable to proof it. In addition, Aussie2 erased the known facts about Marcel’s various jobs! Marcel is very well known in Germany’s gay scene because over many years he loved to appear in public jobs. He worked successfully for a Pay-TV’s gay sex show, several porn companies and escort websites. But Aussie2 repeatedly erases the proven job descriptions ‚escort’ and ‚porn actor’ because he only likes to mention the more accepted jobs, like i.e. ‚fashion model’, ‚author’ and ‚photographer’. In reality, Marcel never wrote a book, he only wrote several short articles (columns) for a gay magazine. Marcel never made a living as a photographer but a few of his snapshots were printed a compilation book about skaters. Since 2004, Marcel announced twice to end his porn/escort career but even though he appears in new adult videos; the last one so far in 2007. Therefore Berlin’s biggest gay city rag Siegessaeule and Europe’s gay sex rag Erexxion already made fun of this bizarre farewell/ comeback/ farewell/ comeback career. Aussie2 obviously tries to eliminate Marcel’s real profitable money-making professions by emphasizing the little part-time jobs. It looks like Aussie2 is trying to smoothen Marcel’s biography. Wiki better should stick to the facts! Thank you very much.// Germany2799 ( talk) 18:44, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
User:MichaelBergman when uploading Image:Website_shots_036.jpg on 00:32, 6 January 2008 stated "I, Frank Howson, own this image of myself as it was a self-portrait." thereby claiming to be Frank Howson! Since User:MichaelBergman has been a major contributor to this article (and an editor to numerous other Biographies of living people associated with Frank Howson) this may present significant problems: Autobiographies tend not to have a Neutral Point of View (NPOV) and contain Conflict of Interest (COI) issues. Since 09:41, 12 August 2007 I have also contributed significantly to this article wikifying it and providing references. I have also edited other articles visited by User:MichaelBergman and so do not feel sufficiently unbiased to resolve issues involved. I request intervention by a suitable Administrator. I suggest also considering contributions by User:124.190.242.6 and User: 124.190.244.2 as possibly by same author. I have placed this same notice on User talk:MichaelBergman page and Talk: Frank Howson but believe that User:MichaelBergman may not read these pages (numerous notices seem to have gone by without any response). Shaidar cuebiyar ( talk) 15:47, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
Patriarch Alexius II ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). This article had reach an equilibrium, in which accusations about Patriarch Alexei's past involvement were documented in a manner that was in mostly in keeping with NPOV and WP:BLP, although an administrator had noted that too much of the article was focused on accusations against Patriarch Alexei, and that it needed to be more balance, however, Biophys ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) decided to expand the article by expanding the accusations into the rest of the Biography, and asserting them as biographical facts. I attempted to deal with it via edits and the talk page, but am taking it here as the only alternative to an edit war on the matter. Frjohnwhiteford ( talk) 20:59, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
Biophys has inserted yet more negative rumours/controversial information, this time into the 'Career' section rather than the 'Controversies' section, certainly a violation of WP:BLP IMO. The article is indeed a violation of WP:NPOV and WP:BLP as about 90-95% of this article is devoted to negative rumours.-- Miyokan ( talk) 02:05, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
The remedy from the Admins I would request here is this: Roll back this article to this edit. And ask Biophys to engage in constructive edits that do not violate WP:BLP and which provide a fair and balanced treatment of the subject. Frjohnwhiteford ( talk) 16:00, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
BTW, while we are waiting for some outside intervention, the article is only becoming less balanced, as more slanted and biased. Is there an Admin in the house? Frjohnwhiteford ( talk) 00:13, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
BTW, here is another example of Biophys engaging in POV pushing and clearly violating the WP:BLP policy from an article I have had nothing to do with:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Yevgenia_Albats#Edward_Kennedy_as_a_KGB_collaborator
Interestingly, once again painting people with the KGB broad brush is the subject. Frjohnwhiteford ( talk) 04:25, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
there is a controversy in the article about j.j. johanson. it says that "there is a change in his music with the album relased in 2002". on the contrary the same album is shown as been relased in 2003 at the bottom of the page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.243.222.24 ( talk) 14:38, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
There's conflicting evidence regarding Monica Bellucci's age and date of birth. It's being discussed on Talk:Monica Bellucci#Age, sort-of, but anon IPs keep reverting and there is no agreement from sources on the accurate age. Note this statement at the NNDB, which I don't think is incredibly reliable, but it's the only explicit discussion of this I've seen. Help! WLU ( talk) 15:06, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
Onorem asked me about this. That took me to Special:Contributions/Little Joe Shots, which in turn took me to all of these ( Special:Prefixindex/User:Alexbonaro/):
There's nothing wrong with using userspace as a platform for article development. Indeed, that's one of the things that userspace is there for. But the way that this development is being done, by the users themselves and by editors without accounts, is somewhat troubling. This appears to be less article development and more a collection of primary source materials, being written and collected by Wikipedia editors directly and hosted in Wikipedia userspace as a supposedly "reliable resource" for people to consult.
The pages appear to be collections of accusations that specifically named people are criminals, or dead, sourced solely to discussion forum postings by people known only by pseudonyms such as "Pogo", or obtained directly by primary research. Particularly troubling are things such as the notice at the top of User:Alexbonaro/Bonanno crime family circa 1991, the I-got-this-information-from-a-guy-named-Jiggy statement on User talk:Alexbonaro/LA chart circa 1954, and the responses to accusations of inaccuracy at User talk:Alexbonaro/Timeline of Detroit mob murders and User talk:Alexbonaro/present day Milwaukee crime family.
Alexbonaro ( talk · contribs) hasn't edited since September 2007. Little Joe Shots ( talk · contribs) hasn't edited since November 2007. Various modifications to the pages, including some that dispute the pages' contents ( example), have been reverted as vandalism since. My first inclination is to just blank all of the pages. Please discuss and take appropriate action. Uncle G ( talk) 15:30, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
Can someone please talk to Irvine22 ( talk · contribs) regarding his BLP-violating and counterfactual edits to the Wikipedia article about me, David Eppstein? Thanks. — David Eppstein ( talk) 00:31, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
Would somebody take a look at Marcos_Baghdatis#2008_Australian_Open_controversy? It needs a POV-ectomy. Corvus cornix talk 03:40, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
An I.P. is insisting on inserting the adjective "struggling" into this article to describe the show that Rancic hosts. Initially, the I.P. was doing so without references; and I reverted it as a blatant WP:BLP violation. References have since been inserted, and I'm at my 3RR limit anyway. My opinion is that, even sourced, this information violated WP:BLP, but I told the I.P. that if she/he provided references, I'd try to solicit some other editors' opinions (and, like I said, I'm at my 3RR limit anyway). Eyes would be appreciated - the conversation between the I.P. and me is centralized here. Sarcasticidealist ( talk) 06:45, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
Link #4 goes to an internet porn site where a copy of an article on Clemons from the Bartlesville, Oklahoma Examiner Enterprise has been placed.
The link to the original article: http://www.examiner-enterprise.com/articles/2006/01/25/news/2578.txt
I'd change it myself but assume those responsible for the article would rather do the deed.
207.68.209.19 ( talk) 20:05, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
Zonbalance —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zonbalance ( talk • contribs) 05:03, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
I present edits removing sources and sourced information made by User:GrahameKing in Primal Therapy: [20] [21] [22] [23] [24]
Please note that User:GrahameKing express allegedly WP:BLP-related worries only in case of criticism against Arthur Janov. On the other hand User:GrahameKing is extremely liberal inserting lines of criticism made by Janov against other living persons, calling them "charlatans", "would-be practioners", "inexpert", "abusive therapists" and "lacking the empathy and technical knowledge necessary" [29].
Unlike him/her, I am not advocating the block from the article of User:GrahameKing (he/she made very good contributions to the article, despite some destructive edits). I am only providing the whole picture about User:GrahameKing, whose statements -IMHO- should be taken cum grano salis.
This is obviously a complex, long-running dispute. Whatever the history of the participants, I am inclined to agree with GrahameKing that linking to debunking primal therapy is problematic. The site does nto meet reliable sourcing requirements, which would not necessarily eliminate it as an external link, but the subpage mentioned specifically ( here) certainly contains unverified negative allegations about a living person. That said, I tend to think that more constructive work on the articles might happen with more open-minded, cooperative conversation about them on the talk page. The issues here go beyond BLP into content dispute, and, if the warnings about edit warring issued to the two primary editors of the article do not take effect, I would be inclined to recommend seeking page protection until the dispute can be ironed out properly at the article's talk page. -- Moonriddengirl (talk) 13:57, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
Zonbalance Zonbalance
A question was raised above at Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons/Noticeboard#Primal_Therapy regarding the appropriateness of this external link under BLP policy. This subpage includes unverifiable contentious claims regarding living persons. I have opined above in response to the question that I feel its inclusion is inappropriate, as BLP requires that ELs be fully compliant with WP:EL, which states that "material available solely in questionable sources or sources of dubious value should be handled with caution, and, if derogatory, should not be used at all, either as sources or via external links". The link is offered as a source or an EL in each of the above articles. I would appreciate feedback from others as to whether it presents a significant enough issue as regards BLP to warrant immediate removal, particularly as one of those articles is protected against edit warring. Pretty please and thanks. :) -- Moonriddengirl (talk) 14:51, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
This article needs a good hard look at it, due to possible non-neutral point of view sources, undue weight, and BLP violations. The result of a recent AfD on this article was that the subject had satisfied the notability criteria for membership, but there were numerous expressed concerns about the article and possible BLP violations. Could everyone give this the proverbial once-over (if not three or four times over) to determine what needs to be in the article, what is superfluous to the article, and what needs to be relentlessly scourged from the article? ArbCom member FT2 stated that this board would be able to effect any changes needed to comply with BLP, even though the article is part of a case currently before ArbCom. Link to diff. Thanks. SirFozzie ( talk) 06:04, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
Someone is repeatedly trying to add a section to Amy Macdonald(singer) wikipedia page. The section 'controversy' has been removed by many various times as the information is poorly sourced and reflects badly on Amy Macdonald.
Could you ensure that this section is never added again. —Preceding
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Minor vandalism adding dubious claims with unverifiable refs. Likely a sock or troll of some sort. If other could watchlist, please do. Benjiboi 04:57, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
Several edits like this Diff have been made by different editors tonight I removed it twice suggesting that a written references was required for BLP. Please give me a reality check. Jeepday ( talk) 04:39, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
Pistolpierre ( talk · contribs) who has numerous blocks for trolling/soapboxing and edit warring has been re-adding WP:BLP vio accusations on the article for Jimmy Page. He keeps labelling Page as a pedophile because he dated a fourteen year old girl. His relationship with the girl is already mentioned in the article. It's a well documented fact. But another well documented fact is that Page has never ever been charged... or so much as questioned about his relationship with Maddox. Pistolpierre is persistently re-adding his POV skewed content(he is up to 6 or 7 reverts by now) and labelling a living person with a crime that the living person was never charged for. He is also trying to add original research that Page wearing a Nazi General's hat during a single performance in Chicago has some sort of derogatory hidden meaning or implication about the artist. He wore a hat. He was pictured wearing the hat. But the fact is... beyond that simple fact... 'he wore a hat'... there is no verifiable evil misdoing that Pistolpierre keeps trying to imply. 142.167.87.205 ( talk) 21:26, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
hello
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joss_Stone
it says at the top of the talk page of joss stone's Biographies of living persons page that no libelous things to be posted and report any if people see some, 'the brit awards' section really has nothing to do with the biography of someone which wikipedia is about this is the meaning of libel: a malicious publication printed for the purpose of defaming a living person. look up malicious and defaming if you don't understand, and i and many other people belivie this is and libelous thing i read the Biographies of living persons and i like it said their this is an encyclopedia not a tabloid paper and the things written down are from sources like gossip magazines and websites and tabloid papers and if you read the talk page for that acticle the users on their seem to gossip and things that have nothing to do with joss stones biography and carer information and are really personal and not actual facts nor are the comments on "the brits awards" awards section they and opinons of someone and is words badly.
i did many times try to change it buy rewording it but it people keep changing it back so please can people thing about changing or removing it as it's really just peoples way of defaming her and on the talk page before it edited it people was gossiping about her and said things that sounded like they were writing that on the perpose of daming that person.
thank you for reading and please send me message back or delete it or change to wording alease please thank you
User:Eddiehosa removed a paragraph discussing Eddie Ho's photography of the AF358 evacuation and the controversy surrounding taking photographs during an evacuation. See: Talk:Air_France_Flight_358#Eddie_Ho_and_the_picture_taking_controversy WhisperToMe ( talk) 01:43, 27 January 2008 (UTC)