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The result was delete. Being WP:BOLD and closing this one early per WP:SNOW and SALTing. Missvain ( talk) 21:33, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
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Non-notable musician, fail of WP:GNG and WP:SINGER. nearlyevil 665 09:08, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. nearlyevil 665 09:08, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. Shellwood ( talk) 09:49, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- Delete as per nom. Previously moved into the draft. Fails WP:SINGER GermanKity ( talk) 10:35, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- Delete and salt with vigour if not vinegar. Good grief, speedy deleted twice AND draftified twice, brought back yet again. Frankenstein's article, this needs to stop. Best Alexandermcnabb ( talk) 10:41, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- Delete and Salt agree with previous comments and nominator, non-notable musician JW 1961 Talk 13:24, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- Keep New links were added after the article was draftified. It was a Start class article with continuous edits going on to improve the content. Don't feel the need to be deleted.
- Speedy delete and salt. A7 candicate, aggressively promoted by one editor (and an "unrelated" IP voting keep here as well), deliberately creating fake sources. After the first drafting or deletion, suddenly an "interview" appeared at Medium.com (where anyone can post anything) by "Samara Lopez", "A professional writer with over 10 years’ experience with Rolling Stone and Mashable as a writer.", about whom nothing else can be found. Promoting an artist, OK, but faking sources and interviews to get into enwiki? Delete, salt, and considering getting rid of the editor as well. Fram ( talk) 08:04, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
- Delete:
- An article should speak for itself, and this article does not satisfy any of the musical notability criteria, or general notability.
- A draft has also been created, possibly to game the system and prevent moving this article back into draft space.
- The title should be ECP salted in article space to prevent further creation by sockpuppets or throw-away accounts.
- A comment on the unsigned Keep !votes is that one of them is by the originator and one is by an IP, also probably the originator.
- This is a content forum, and discussion of banning an editor should be somewhere else.
Robert McClenon ( talk) 15:55, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. Robert McClenon ( talk) 15:55, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
- Comment - See also Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Zennic 2, where two drafts have also been nominated for deletion. Robert McClenon ( talk) 16:13, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
- Delete and salt; way too many repeated creations to assume good faith to. Either fancruft or WP:PAID, either way, it's WP:NOT what we're here for. —— Serial 16:22, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
- Delete doesn't qualify WP:NMUSICIAN. Nomadicghumakkad ( talk) 18:08, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
- Delete being mentioned on a music writer's playlist does not establish notability. Still heavily promotional. Should not have gotten out of draft status, but now that it has, here we are. AngusW🐶🐶F ( bark • sniff) 17:08, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
- Salt too, the drafts were earlier copies created by the same SPA but moved by editors to draft, so it never really got developed in draft. AngusW🐶🐶F ( bark • sniff) 15:25, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. Being WP:BOLD and closing this one early per WP:SNOW and SALTing. Missvain ( talk) 21:33, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
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Non-notable musician, fail of WP:GNG and WP:SINGER. nearlyevil 665 09:08, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. nearlyevil 665 09:08, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. Shellwood ( talk) 09:49, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- Delete as per nom. Previously moved into the draft. Fails WP:SINGER GermanKity ( talk) 10:35, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- Delete and salt with vigour if not vinegar. Good grief, speedy deleted twice AND draftified twice, brought back yet again. Frankenstein's article, this needs to stop. Best Alexandermcnabb ( talk) 10:41, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- Delete and Salt agree with previous comments and nominator, non-notable musician JW 1961 Talk 13:24, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- Keep New links were added after the article was draftified. It was a Start class article with continuous edits going on to improve the content. Don't feel the need to be deleted.
- Speedy delete and salt. A7 candicate, aggressively promoted by one editor (and an "unrelated" IP voting keep here as well), deliberately creating fake sources. After the first drafting or deletion, suddenly an "interview" appeared at Medium.com (where anyone can post anything) by "Samara Lopez", "A professional writer with over 10 years’ experience with Rolling Stone and Mashable as a writer.", about whom nothing else can be found. Promoting an artist, OK, but faking sources and interviews to get into enwiki? Delete, salt, and considering getting rid of the editor as well. Fram ( talk) 08:04, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
- Delete:
- An article should speak for itself, and this article does not satisfy any of the musical notability criteria, or general notability.
- A draft has also been created, possibly to game the system and prevent moving this article back into draft space.
- The title should be ECP salted in article space to prevent further creation by sockpuppets or throw-away accounts.
- A comment on the unsigned Keep !votes is that one of them is by the originator and one is by an IP, also probably the originator.
- This is a content forum, and discussion of banning an editor should be somewhere else.
Robert McClenon ( talk) 15:55, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. Robert McClenon ( talk) 15:55, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
- Comment - See also Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Zennic 2, where two drafts have also been nominated for deletion. Robert McClenon ( talk) 16:13, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
- Delete and salt; way too many repeated creations to assume good faith to. Either fancruft or WP:PAID, either way, it's WP:NOT what we're here for. —— Serial 16:22, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
- Delete doesn't qualify WP:NMUSICIAN. Nomadicghumakkad ( talk) 18:08, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
- Delete being mentioned on a music writer's playlist does not establish notability. Still heavily promotional. Should not have gotten out of draft status, but now that it has, here we are. AngusW🐶🐶F ( bark • sniff) 17:08, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
- Salt too, the drafts were earlier copies created by the same SPA but moved by editors to draft, so it never really got developed in draft. AngusW🐶🐶F ( bark • sniff) 15:25, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.