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The result was keep. Randykitty ( talk) 14:59, 12 August 2018 (UTC)
Van (band)
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The article that actually talks about the band isn’t even a paragraph; most of the page talks about an album they made. And it is completely unsourced and lacking notability. ~SML • TP 16:40, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
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- Keep as notable, they had 3 singles charting on the the Swedish Hit List in 1998 and 1999 for a total of 15 weeks and peaking at #11. [1] They also spent one week on Trackslistan in 1998. [2] I'll see if I can add sources later and maybe expand. bbx ( talk) 18:13, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
- Keep per bbx. They got into the charts several times and reached number 11. Incidentally, a record is a reliable primary source for itself. So not "unsourced". James500 ( talk) 11:53, 5 August 2018 (UTC)
Keep. Valid band with charting songs. jonnycraig888 ( talk) 22:02, 5 August 2018 (UTC)
- struck sock. duffbeerforme ( talk) 13:52, 11 August 2018 (UTC)
- Delete Don't see any commentary in reliable sources. Even with a couple of sourced chart positions, it's still a classic WP:PERMASTUB. — Ojorojo ( talk) 15:11, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
- Keep Meets WP:NMUSIC as a band that has charted. Note that WP:PERMASTUB is 1) not policy; and 2) not a reason for deletion. - CHAMPION ( talk) ( contributions) ( logs) 06:58, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
- The Keep voters seem to be misreading/misapplying NMUSIC. WP:BAND states an ensemble may be notable if they have works that charted, not that they are notable – the general notability guideline still applies. PERMASTUB is not a policy, etc., but the idea behind it comes from WP:WHYN: "We require 'significant coverage' in reliable sources so that we can actually write a whole article, rather than half a paragraph or a definition of that topic. If only a few sentences could be written and supported by sources about the subject, that subject does not qualify for a separate page, but should instead be merged into an article about a larger topic or relevant list." An encyclopedic article cannot be generated from a source that only lists chart positions. — Ojorojo ( talk) 14:26, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
- Keep. "Van" is a highly Google-resistant name, but I was able to add some details about the music video for "Ice Got My Heart" from this. It was played regularly on MTV (Nordic) per that source, which meets WP:NMUSIC#11. I think this should stay, even as a short article, especially in the absence of a workable merge target. Perhaps Bbx can help expand it further. › Mortee talk 22:39, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
- Keep, passes WP:BAND with multiple chart entries and rotation on a major TV channel. Ten Pound Hammer • ( What did I screw up now?) 23:49, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
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The result was keep. Randykitty ( talk) 14:59, 12 August 2018 (UTC)
Van (band)
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The article that actually talks about the band isn’t even a paragraph; most of the page talks about an album they made. And it is completely unsourced and lacking notability. ~SML • TP 16:40, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
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- Keep as notable, they had 3 singles charting on the the Swedish Hit List in 1998 and 1999 for a total of 15 weeks and peaking at #11. [1] They also spent one week on Trackslistan in 1998. [2] I'll see if I can add sources later and maybe expand. bbx ( talk) 18:13, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
- Keep per bbx. They got into the charts several times and reached number 11. Incidentally, a record is a reliable primary source for itself. So not "unsourced". James500 ( talk) 11:53, 5 August 2018 (UTC)
Keep. Valid band with charting songs. jonnycraig888 ( talk) 22:02, 5 August 2018 (UTC)
- struck sock. duffbeerforme ( talk) 13:52, 11 August 2018 (UTC)
- Delete Don't see any commentary in reliable sources. Even with a couple of sourced chart positions, it's still a classic WP:PERMASTUB. — Ojorojo ( talk) 15:11, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
- Keep Meets WP:NMUSIC as a band that has charted. Note that WP:PERMASTUB is 1) not policy; and 2) not a reason for deletion. - CHAMPION ( talk) ( contributions) ( logs) 06:58, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
- The Keep voters seem to be misreading/misapplying NMUSIC. WP:BAND states an ensemble may be notable if they have works that charted, not that they are notable – the general notability guideline still applies. PERMASTUB is not a policy, etc., but the idea behind it comes from WP:WHYN: "We require 'significant coverage' in reliable sources so that we can actually write a whole article, rather than half a paragraph or a definition of that topic. If only a few sentences could be written and supported by sources about the subject, that subject does not qualify for a separate page, but should instead be merged into an article about a larger topic or relevant list." An encyclopedic article cannot be generated from a source that only lists chart positions. — Ojorojo ( talk) 14:26, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
- Keep. "Van" is a highly Google-resistant name, but I was able to add some details about the music video for "Ice Got My Heart" from this. It was played regularly on MTV (Nordic) per that source, which meets WP:NMUSIC#11. I think this should stay, even as a short article, especially in the absence of a workable merge target. Perhaps Bbx can help expand it further. › Mortee talk 22:39, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
- Keep, passes WP:BAND with multiple chart entries and rotation on a major TV channel. Ten Pound Hammer • ( What did I screw up now?) 23:49, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
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