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The result was delete. ✗ plicit 00:55, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
Tuneful Teachers
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WP:BEFORE check yielded only the Free Lance-Star article cited in the stub. Have yet to find more coverage other than an announcement of their performance in a concert or a passing mention, usually part of a bio of a former member. If I missed some guideline, policy, or existing consensus that overrides WP:GNG and WP:SIGCOV, or if evidence exists that the subject could meet inclusion criteria in six months, please let me know; I would be open to moving the page back to draftspace in that case. Rotideypoc41352 ( talk · contribs) 19:22, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Rotideypoc41352 ( talk · contribs) 19:22, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
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- Delete - I also can find nothing useful beyond the one newspaper article already cited on the page. Otherwise they appear in brief gig announcements and their own self-created websites. The article's bizarre formatting indicates to me that it was directly copy/pasted from somewhere else, and no Wikipedia article on any band lists every single one of their songs and every single one of their performances. Also, the article says that it came from the Articles for Creation process, but it appears that nobody on that team reviewed it, as indicated by its many style errors. ---
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20:38, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
- The creator moved the draft without going through AfC. Rotideypoc41352 ( talk · contribs) 23:15, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
- The "bizarre formatting" mentioned in my vote has been fixed, though we do have an admission below about text being "transferred" from elsewhere. --- DOOMSDAYER520 ( TALK| CONTRIBS) 14:47, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
the information on [Tuneful Teachers' official site] is being transferred here
(emphasis added). Neither Earwig nor my brief skim of the official site pages found copied text. Rotideypoc41352 ( talk · contribs) 19:52, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
- So what? Below, the article creator said that the singing group's current site is being deleted and "the information on it is being transferred here for purposes of being archived". The difference between text and information is irrelevant; transferred and archived are the terms to discuss. Wikipedia is not an archive for dead/dying websites. --- DOOMSDAYER520 ( TALK| CONTRIBS) 16:41, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
- Regardless, the main point is that we have yet to find sources showing the subject meets criteria for a standalone article. Rotideypoc41352 ( talk · contribs) 20:54, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
- In response to "the bizarre formatting" -- this is because the author is amateur at coding. The tone of this notion to delete comes off as an attack to the author rather than any breach of Wiki standards. There are no copyright violations as the creator of the media is the director of this publication. The flagged wordpress site is in process of deletion and the information on it is being transferred here for purposes of being archived. This page is still being edited. --Jared — Preceding unsigned comment added by JaredVPurcell ( talk • contribs) 03:19, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
- This debate isn't about you and your skill level, it's about Tuneful Teachers. The issue is their notability, and the article really does breach several Wikipedia standards for formatting and content. Wikipedia is also not a place to archive material from a different website. --- DOOMSDAYER520 ( TALK| CONTRIBS) 14:43, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
- Delete agree with DOOMSDAYER520's comments. Peter303x ( talk) 17:25, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
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The result was delete. ✗ plicit 00:55, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
Tuneful Teachers
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WP:BEFORE check yielded only the Free Lance-Star article cited in the stub. Have yet to find more coverage other than an announcement of their performance in a concert or a passing mention, usually part of a bio of a former member. If I missed some guideline, policy, or existing consensus that overrides WP:GNG and WP:SIGCOV, or if evidence exists that the subject could meet inclusion criteria in six months, please let me know; I would be open to moving the page back to draftspace in that case. Rotideypoc41352 ( talk · contribs) 19:22, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Rotideypoc41352 ( talk · contribs) 19:22, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. Rotideypoc41352 ( talk · contribs) 19:22, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. Rotideypoc41352 ( talk · contribs) 19:22, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Education-related deletion discussions. Rotideypoc41352 ( talk · contribs) 19:22, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
- Delete - I also can find nothing useful beyond the one newspaper article already cited on the page. Otherwise they appear in brief gig announcements and their own self-created websites. The article's bizarre formatting indicates to me that it was directly copy/pasted from somewhere else, and no Wikipedia article on any band lists every single one of their songs and every single one of their performances. Also, the article says that it came from the Articles for Creation process, but it appears that nobody on that team reviewed it, as indicated by its many style errors. ---
DOOMSDAYER520 (
TALK|
CONTRIBS)
20:38, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
- The creator moved the draft without going through AfC. Rotideypoc41352 ( talk · contribs) 23:15, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
- The "bizarre formatting" mentioned in my vote has been fixed, though we do have an admission below about text being "transferred" from elsewhere. --- DOOMSDAYER520 ( TALK| CONTRIBS) 14:47, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
the information on [Tuneful Teachers' official site] is being transferred here
(emphasis added). Neither Earwig nor my brief skim of the official site pages found copied text. Rotideypoc41352 ( talk · contribs) 19:52, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
- So what? Below, the article creator said that the singing group's current site is being deleted and "the information on it is being transferred here for purposes of being archived". The difference between text and information is irrelevant; transferred and archived are the terms to discuss. Wikipedia is not an archive for dead/dying websites. --- DOOMSDAYER520 ( TALK| CONTRIBS) 16:41, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
- Regardless, the main point is that we have yet to find sources showing the subject meets criteria for a standalone article. Rotideypoc41352 ( talk · contribs) 20:54, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
- In response to "the bizarre formatting" -- this is because the author is amateur at coding. The tone of this notion to delete comes off as an attack to the author rather than any breach of Wiki standards. There are no copyright violations as the creator of the media is the director of this publication. The flagged wordpress site is in process of deletion and the information on it is being transferred here for purposes of being archived. This page is still being edited. --Jared — Preceding unsigned comment added by JaredVPurcell ( talk • contribs) 03:19, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
- This debate isn't about you and your skill level, it's about Tuneful Teachers. The issue is their notability, and the article really does breach several Wikipedia standards for formatting and content. Wikipedia is also not a place to archive material from a different website. --- DOOMSDAYER520 ( TALK| CONTRIBS) 14:43, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
- Delete agree with DOOMSDAYER520's comments. Peter303x ( talk) 17:25, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
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