The result was delete. Regardless of the walls o' text, there appears to be insufficent notability here. No prejustice against recreation as a redirect to the music group mentioned if RS can be found (as he isn't even mentioned in the Coalition Fight Music article at the moment). The Bushranger One ping only 05:08, 30 March 2012 (UTC) reply
Completing nomination on behalf of User:AwayEnter. On the merits, I have no opinion - though I would recommend that the nominator produce sources that contradict the facts of the article, and thus confirm that the inaccuracies noted below are indeed present; It is well and good to question the facts of the matter, but simply contending that they're not accurate (when they appear to be sourced) is usually not be sufficient to justify deletion. UltraExactZZ Said ~ Did 12:34, 22 March 2012 (UTC) reply
The rationale, taken from the nominator's post at
WP:BLP/N, reads thus:
This entry is based on serious misrepresentations of information and having it on Wikipedia provides a dangerous potential to legitimize and perpetuate the false information at the expense of the legitimate company.
- It links to Coalition_Fight_Music this company expelled the subject in September of 2011. The seriousness of the matter is recorded in the highest level of dispute - "Coalition Fight Music" is a trademarked name registered to an individual not matching this entry - This entry dangerously misrepresents the subject as "CEO" in addition to other titles of authority, it also makes false claims of current involvement with company which do not exist. - Any references listed to support the facts of this entry suggesting any current relationship of the subject and "Coalition Fight Music" or "The Coalition, LLC" are the result of misrepresentations asserted by the source. - A simple check reveals that the source of information posted by the webpages (listed as references) come from "Tony Savo." The references listed for this entry are written by the subject of this entry in violation of the entire policy of Wikipedia governing accuracy of entries. The misrepresentations in the references can be easily traced back to the subject of this entry being the source of the misrepresentations. - Misrepresentations are pervasive throughout the entry, they are the focus of the entry and are in fact the basis of its creation - The misrepresentations made on this page are very serious and detrimental to a legitimate company that has taken great efforts to prevent further detriment caused by dishonesty. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AwayEnter ( talk • contribs) 06:36, 22 March 2012 (UTC) reply
1. This entry does not meet Wiki guidelines, all citations are to blogs, the entry is not important, neutral or verifiable.
2. Citing interviews of Tony Savo in an article about Tony Savo is equivalent to Tony Savo writing this himself, the misrepresentations he made during those interviews and in the blogs are simply repeated here. It is an egregious oversight to give credence to blogs and interviews that are easily traced back to Tony as the single source. It is the source of information, not the web page where it was posted that determines the weight of credibility.
These reasons alone merit deletion.
3. Other concerns listed above emphasize the importance of addressing this entry quickly.
4. "Tony Savo" does not exist. That name will not show up in any official documents. Searches must be conducted using a legal name, recent filings can only be searched using his current legal name.
5. Government records have restrictions on being linked which is why it is not done so here
6. Because it appears that this entry is moving quickly towards deletion, I want to be respectful to the privacy of parties in dispute and reveal information only as far as necessary to have an expedient removal of this page.
AwayEnter (
talk) 21:42, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
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Verifiable Sources Refuting Claims
1. "Coalition Fight Music" is an actively registered trademark. Note that there is no "Tony Savo."
trademark registration info
2. To be a CEO, there needs to be a company. Please cite the existence of a company naming "Tony Savo" as a CEO from a verifiable source.
3. Video Game: as an example of how false information sourced from interviews and posted on blogs is entirely unverified and inappropriate to form the basis for encyclopedic entries, please see the following links. Despite the multitude of claims that CFM music and Savo are included in the SupremacyMMA game, this claim is obviously false. It doesn't matter how many blogs and interviews repeat Savo's false claims, it is a verifiable fact that SupremacyMMA does not include CFM music nor does it include anything by Savo. The insistence on using Wikipedia to give credibility to this and other unverifiable claims needs to end.
SupremacyMMA sountrack info via gameplaytoday.com
SupremacyMMA sountrack info via gamershell.com
full credits information via allgame.com
— Preceding
unsigned comment added by
AwayEnter (
talk •
contribs) 10:11, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Regardless of the walls o' text, there appears to be insufficent notability here. No prejustice against recreation as a redirect to the music group mentioned if RS can be found (as he isn't even mentioned in the Coalition Fight Music article at the moment). The Bushranger One ping only 05:08, 30 March 2012 (UTC) reply
Completing nomination on behalf of User:AwayEnter. On the merits, I have no opinion - though I would recommend that the nominator produce sources that contradict the facts of the article, and thus confirm that the inaccuracies noted below are indeed present; It is well and good to question the facts of the matter, but simply contending that they're not accurate (when they appear to be sourced) is usually not be sufficient to justify deletion. UltraExactZZ Said ~ Did 12:34, 22 March 2012 (UTC) reply
The rationale, taken from the nominator's post at
WP:BLP/N, reads thus:
This entry is based on serious misrepresentations of information and having it on Wikipedia provides a dangerous potential to legitimize and perpetuate the false information at the expense of the legitimate company.
- It links to Coalition_Fight_Music this company expelled the subject in September of 2011. The seriousness of the matter is recorded in the highest level of dispute - "Coalition Fight Music" is a trademarked name registered to an individual not matching this entry - This entry dangerously misrepresents the subject as "CEO" in addition to other titles of authority, it also makes false claims of current involvement with company which do not exist. - Any references listed to support the facts of this entry suggesting any current relationship of the subject and "Coalition Fight Music" or "The Coalition, LLC" are the result of misrepresentations asserted by the source. - A simple check reveals that the source of information posted by the webpages (listed as references) come from "Tony Savo." The references listed for this entry are written by the subject of this entry in violation of the entire policy of Wikipedia governing accuracy of entries. The misrepresentations in the references can be easily traced back to the subject of this entry being the source of the misrepresentations. - Misrepresentations are pervasive throughout the entry, they are the focus of the entry and are in fact the basis of its creation - The misrepresentations made on this page are very serious and detrimental to a legitimate company that has taken great efforts to prevent further detriment caused by dishonesty. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AwayEnter ( talk • contribs) 06:36, 22 March 2012 (UTC) reply
1. This entry does not meet Wiki guidelines, all citations are to blogs, the entry is not important, neutral or verifiable.
2. Citing interviews of Tony Savo in an article about Tony Savo is equivalent to Tony Savo writing this himself, the misrepresentations he made during those interviews and in the blogs are simply repeated here. It is an egregious oversight to give credence to blogs and interviews that are easily traced back to Tony as the single source. It is the source of information, not the web page where it was posted that determines the weight of credibility.
These reasons alone merit deletion.
3. Other concerns listed above emphasize the importance of addressing this entry quickly.
4. "Tony Savo" does not exist. That name will not show up in any official documents. Searches must be conducted using a legal name, recent filings can only be searched using his current legal name.
5. Government records have restrictions on being linked which is why it is not done so here
6. Because it appears that this entry is moving quickly towards deletion, I want to be respectful to the privacy of parties in dispute and reveal information only as far as necessary to have an expedient removal of this page.
AwayEnter (
talk) 21:42, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
reply
Verifiable Sources Refuting Claims
1. "Coalition Fight Music" is an actively registered trademark. Note that there is no "Tony Savo."
trademark registration info
2. To be a CEO, there needs to be a company. Please cite the existence of a company naming "Tony Savo" as a CEO from a verifiable source.
3. Video Game: as an example of how false information sourced from interviews and posted on blogs is entirely unverified and inappropriate to form the basis for encyclopedic entries, please see the following links. Despite the multitude of claims that CFM music and Savo are included in the SupremacyMMA game, this claim is obviously false. It doesn't matter how many blogs and interviews repeat Savo's false claims, it is a verifiable fact that SupremacyMMA does not include CFM music nor does it include anything by Savo. The insistence on using Wikipedia to give credibility to this and other unverifiable claims needs to end.
SupremacyMMA sountrack info via gameplaytoday.com
SupremacyMMA sountrack info via gamershell.com
full credits information via allgame.com
— Preceding
unsigned comment added by
AwayEnter (
talk •
contribs) 10:11, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
reply