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The result was delete. Sandstein 08:12, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
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Zero real world notability. All sourcing is simple announcements. Was deprodded without rationale (simply citing DEPROD isn't a rationale, since that clearly states "Explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion, either in the edit summary or on the talk page.") or improvement. Onel5969 TT me 21:02, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. Onel5969 TT me 21:02, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
- Keep The nomination's assertion is false as more than one source is about a petition about the actor who should play this part and that's a real-world consideration. Also, there are obvious alternatives to deletion and this is a blatant failure of WP:BEFORE. Andrew D. ( talk) 22:34, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
- Delete (soft delete and merge/redirect are ok too). The only source about real world significance I see is [1]. This is effectively WP:ONEEVENT - outside this petition, covered in few sentences, no reliable source has bothered to discuss this character. At best, a sentence about the petition can be merged to the parent article about the franchise. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 10:20, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
- Mergers are not done by deletion – see WP:MAD. The simple and sensible process in such cases is to keep the page so that editors may refer to its history when developing and reusing its content per WP:PRESERVE. Deletion is disruptive because it makes the history inaccessible. Andrew D. ( talk) 12:02, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
- Fair enough, I've updated my vote to reflect that I am fine with soft deletion too. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 13:05, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
- Delete - One reference is not enough to establish notability. The above keep seeks pointless bureaucracy rather than presenting a valid opinion on the article's merit. TTN ( talk) 10:52, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
- Delete The character is already covered in a lot of detail at List_of_Halloween_characters#Tommy_Doyle, and there are not enough sources to justify splitting that off into an independent article. The entry at the Thomas Doyle disambiguate page should also be reverted to a link to that list, as it was before the creation of this article. Rorshacma ( talk) 14:53, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
- Comment. I found some books that could be used to create a better article (although List_of_Halloween_characters#Tommy_Doyle is probably the best place for this content): [2], [3], [4], [5], [6]. I'll leave it to others to decide. Best. 4meter4 ( talk) 22:11, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Sandstein 08:12, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
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- Tommy Doyle (character) ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
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Zero real world notability. All sourcing is simple announcements. Was deprodded without rationale (simply citing DEPROD isn't a rationale, since that clearly states "Explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion, either in the edit summary or on the talk page.") or improvement. Onel5969 TT me 21:02, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. Onel5969 TT me 21:02, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
- Keep The nomination's assertion is false as more than one source is about a petition about the actor who should play this part and that's a real-world consideration. Also, there are obvious alternatives to deletion and this is a blatant failure of WP:BEFORE. Andrew D. ( talk) 22:34, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
- Delete (soft delete and merge/redirect are ok too). The only source about real world significance I see is [1]. This is effectively WP:ONEEVENT - outside this petition, covered in few sentences, no reliable source has bothered to discuss this character. At best, a sentence about the petition can be merged to the parent article about the franchise. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 10:20, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
- Mergers are not done by deletion – see WP:MAD. The simple and sensible process in such cases is to keep the page so that editors may refer to its history when developing and reusing its content per WP:PRESERVE. Deletion is disruptive because it makes the history inaccessible. Andrew D. ( talk) 12:02, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
- Fair enough, I've updated my vote to reflect that I am fine with soft deletion too. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 13:05, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
- Delete - One reference is not enough to establish notability. The above keep seeks pointless bureaucracy rather than presenting a valid opinion on the article's merit. TTN ( talk) 10:52, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
- Delete The character is already covered in a lot of detail at List_of_Halloween_characters#Tommy_Doyle, and there are not enough sources to justify splitting that off into an independent article. The entry at the Thomas Doyle disambiguate page should also be reverted to a link to that list, as it was before the creation of this article. Rorshacma ( talk) 14:53, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
- Comment. I found some books that could be used to create a better article (although List_of_Halloween_characters#Tommy_Doyle is probably the best place for this content): [2], [3], [4], [5], [6]. I'll leave it to others to decide. Best. 4meter4 ( talk) 22:11, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
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