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The result was merge to Alice Cooper (band). And elsewhere as appropriate. Sandstein 20:55, 20 January 2018 (UTC)
The Spiders (American rock band)
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Not notable on their own right, info should be merged into Alice Cooper and Alice Cooper group articles. RF23 ( talk) 10:30, 13 January 2018 (UTC)
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- Keep or Merge: This act is clearly notable because their roster included Vincent Furnier (later Alice Cooper) and members of the later group Alice Cooper. The group was the most popular band in Pheonix circa 1966-they had a #1 hit thee ("Don't Blow Your Mind), and their work has been featured on several garage rock compilations such as Back from the Grave, which is one of the better known comps. So, the information in this article is notable to stand. It would still be my preference to have the article stand on its own, due to the group's visibility with garage rock followers. However, some may feel that the band's closeness to the later Alice Cooper group would make this article a good candidate for a merge. I once felt differently, but at this time I would not necessarily object to merging it with Alice Cooper (band), in light of the shared membership in both acts. So, keep or merge. Garagepunk66 ( talk) 22:10, 13 January 2018 (UTC)
- Merge, unfortunately, since some information will need to be cut out but here is why this is the best option: regional hits, compilations, etc. all make for a good story but those have little to do with our guidelines on music. I can find little in terms of secondary coverage extensively covering the Spiders; I also believe, with the article on the Alice Cooper band in desperate need of an upgrade, a merge will jumpstart that. TheGracefulSlick ( talk) 14:20, 14 January 2018 (UTC)
- Merge would be just fine: I agree with TheGracefulSlick that if we merge this article into the Alice Cooper (band), then we should remove information about compilations—it would no longer be necessary in that context. However, we should still retain info. about the Spiders' regional hit and popularity in Phoenix. Recently, I watched the DVD bio about Alice Cooper (the singer) and it mentions the band's hit and popularity in Phoenix, so that could be considered be necessary biographical info. to transport to the larger article. I'm also more aware of the intrinsic connection between the Spiders and the later act than I was a few years ago. I think this was one of the first articles I wrote, so the way I view things has evolved. Garagepunk66 ( talk) 03:45, 15 January 2018 (UTC)
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The result was merge to Alice Cooper (band). And elsewhere as appropriate. Sandstein 20:55, 20 January 2018 (UTC)
The Spiders (American rock band)
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Not notable on their own right, info should be merged into Alice Cooper and Alice Cooper group articles. RF23 ( talk) 10:30, 13 January 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Baby miss fortune 10:59, 13 January 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. Baby miss fortune 10:59, 13 January 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Arizona-related deletion discussions. Baby miss fortune 11:00, 13 January 2018 (UTC)
- Keep or Merge: This act is clearly notable because their roster included Vincent Furnier (later Alice Cooper) and members of the later group Alice Cooper. The group was the most popular band in Pheonix circa 1966-they had a #1 hit thee ("Don't Blow Your Mind), and their work has been featured on several garage rock compilations such as Back from the Grave, which is one of the better known comps. So, the information in this article is notable to stand. It would still be my preference to have the article stand on its own, due to the group's visibility with garage rock followers. However, some may feel that the band's closeness to the later Alice Cooper group would make this article a good candidate for a merge. I once felt differently, but at this time I would not necessarily object to merging it with Alice Cooper (band), in light of the shared membership in both acts. So, keep or merge. Garagepunk66 ( talk) 22:10, 13 January 2018 (UTC)
- Merge, unfortunately, since some information will need to be cut out but here is why this is the best option: regional hits, compilations, etc. all make for a good story but those have little to do with our guidelines on music. I can find little in terms of secondary coverage extensively covering the Spiders; I also believe, with the article on the Alice Cooper band in desperate need of an upgrade, a merge will jumpstart that. TheGracefulSlick ( talk) 14:20, 14 January 2018 (UTC)
- Merge would be just fine: I agree with TheGracefulSlick that if we merge this article into the Alice Cooper (band), then we should remove information about compilations—it would no longer be necessary in that context. However, we should still retain info. about the Spiders' regional hit and popularity in Phoenix. Recently, I watched the DVD bio about Alice Cooper (the singer) and it mentions the band's hit and popularity in Phoenix, so that could be considered be necessary biographical info. to transport to the larger article. I'm also more aware of the intrinsic connection between the Spiders and the later act than I was a few years ago. I think this was one of the first articles I wrote, so the way I view things has evolved. Garagepunk66 ( talk) 03:45, 15 January 2018 (UTC)
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