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The result was keep. ( non-admin closure) DavidLeighEllis ( talk) 01:19, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
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Not notable - not even a YouTube trailer. IMDB states that even after three years, the film has not been released. Parrot of Doom 12:09, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
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- Comment: The most recent news I could find about this film is
this from December 2013, which says, "Her new film, The Ninth Cloud, which is being repped for distribution by Shoreline Entertainment is a dreamy, surreal marvel, which could do very well on the 2014 international festival circuit." The filming seems complete, so we should look to see if coverage existed before and during actual filming to determine if there was independent interest in this project.
Erik (
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- UPDATE: Wow, this project goes back to 2008. Apparently it has also been titled Men Don't Lie.
This is from Variety back in 2008.
Erik (
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- The editor involved in the creation of this, and other related articles, is probably involved with the people responsible for these projects. Look at his contributions and you'll find a raft of similar, poor quality articles on barely or completely non-notable films. Parrot of Doom 19:32, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
- UPDATE: Wow, this project goes back to 2008. Apparently it has also been titled Men Don't Lie.
This is from Variety back in 2008.
Erik (
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ping me) 17:06, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
Delete - Simply doesn't meet WP:NFILM. Looking at the tone of WP:NFF, this one wouldn't meet the criteria even if it was filled with the most prolific of actors and crew, which it is not. ~ | twsx | talk cont | ~ 08:08, 19 February 2014 (UTC)- Weak keep - After some excellent editing by Tokyogirl79, I do think we can barely keep this article. Especially considering the film will be released in a little over a month, which should allow editors to expand the article, it I don't see any benefit in deleting the article at this point. With the maintenance tags in place, this shouldn't fly under the radar either in case I'm proven wrong. ~ | twsx | talk cont | ~ 07:30, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
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- Comment-weak keep - imdb lists a release date of April 5th. Director and leads meet notability, but article has no references and would need improvement.-- ☾Loriendrew☽ ☏(talk) 15:07, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
- Commment: It looks like this was known under several different names such as Bob's Not Gay, Men Don't Lie, and Cloud Nine. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 05:50, 24 February 2014 (UTC)
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- Keep. The coverage is light, but it seems to be enough to pass notability guidelines. If it must be deleted, we should redirect it to the author's page but keep the article's history intact just in case. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 06:01, 24 February 2014 (UTC)
- I've added a primary source or two, but these were to confirm the various working titles. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 07:48, 24 February 2014 (UTC)
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The result was keep. ( non-admin closure) DavidLeighEllis ( talk) 01:19, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
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Not notable - not even a YouTube trailer. IMDB states that even after three years, the film has not been released. Parrot of Doom 12:09, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Switzerland-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 16:44, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
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- Comment: The most recent news I could find about this film is
this from December 2013, which says, "Her new film, The Ninth Cloud, which is being repped for distribution by Shoreline Entertainment is a dreamy, surreal marvel, which could do very well on the 2014 international festival circuit." The filming seems complete, so we should look to see if coverage existed before and during actual filming to determine if there was independent interest in this project.
Erik (
talk |
contrib) (
ping me) 16:57, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
- UPDATE: Wow, this project goes back to 2008. Apparently it has also been titled Men Don't Lie.
This is from Variety back in 2008.
Erik (
talk |
contrib) (
ping me) 17:06, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
- The editor involved in the creation of this, and other related articles, is probably involved with the people responsible for these projects. Look at his contributions and you'll find a raft of similar, poor quality articles on barely or completely non-notable films. Parrot of Doom 19:32, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
- UPDATE: Wow, this project goes back to 2008. Apparently it has also been titled Men Don't Lie.
This is from Variety back in 2008.
Erik (
talk |
contrib) (
ping me) 17:06, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
Delete - Simply doesn't meet WP:NFILM. Looking at the tone of WP:NFF, this one wouldn't meet the criteria even if it was filled with the most prolific of actors and crew, which it is not. ~ | twsx | talk cont | ~ 08:08, 19 February 2014 (UTC)- Weak keep - After some excellent editing by Tokyogirl79, I do think we can barely keep this article. Especially considering the film will be released in a little over a month, which should allow editors to expand the article, it I don't see any benefit in deleting the article at this point. With the maintenance tags in place, this shouldn't fly under the radar either in case I'm proven wrong. ~ | twsx | talk cont | ~ 07:30, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
- Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, The Bushranger One ping only 09:27, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
- Comment-weak keep - imdb lists a release date of April 5th. Director and leads meet notability, but article has no references and would need improvement.-- ☾Loriendrew☽ ☏(talk) 15:07, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
- Commment: It looks like this was known under several different names such as Bob's Not Gay, Men Don't Lie, and Cloud Nine. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 05:50, 24 February 2014 (UTC)
- (Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)
- (Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)
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- Keep. The coverage is light, but it seems to be enough to pass notability guidelines. If it must be deleted, we should redirect it to the author's page but keep the article's history intact just in case. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 06:01, 24 February 2014 (UTC)
- I've added a primary source or two, but these were to confirm the various working titles. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 07:48, 24 February 2014 (UTC)
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