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The result was no consensus. Liz Read! Talk! 00:06, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
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Appears to fail WP:NBOOK: unable to find significant coverage in either English or Korean. Seems to have been written mostly by the author. Ploni ( talk) 16:46, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Literature, Economics, Korea, and South Korea. Ploni ( talk) 16:46, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
- Update: For whatever is worth, the author of the book denies being involved in writing the wikipedia article on the book.
Al83tito (
talk) 16:36, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
- @ Al83tito Where is that denial, out of curiosity? Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 07:10, 18 July 2022 (UTC)
- I see zero indication that the main contributors, who wrote this while they were students in Piotrus's course in 2019, have any conflict of interest. I tried to assess notability but unfortunately, I'm having a hard time parsing Korean-language sources. DanCherek ( talk) 21:10, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
- My flagging of a possible COI was from the similarity of the main contributor's account name ( User:Chaeyoung907) and the author of the book (Cho Young-tae). That said, if this was a student project then it seems very unlikely. – Ploni ( talk) 21:19, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
- Indeed. Despite a similar name, I can assure you that my student was not the book author :) Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 07:10, 18 July 2022 (UTC)
- Keep. While the article warrants some copyediting tags (for language and style), it passes WP:GNG. RS coverage of the book includes a review in major Korean newspaper ( Kyunghyang Shinmun), and a review by an NGO ( [1]). I am unsure if [2] is a reliable source, and I am having trouble verifying some other sources (MT from Korean to English is still meh), but I think the coverage found by the students show that minimum requirements for GNG/NBOOK (which I interpret as at least two reviews in reliable, independent sources) is met. The odds are there is more but students failed to find it (Korean academic reviews), so a Korean speaker may be able to help us more here. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 07:19, 18 July 2022 (UTC)
- Comment I think I would need to have a further look at the refs, but just looking quickly, I don't think there's much COI here. It's poorly written, and needs c/e, but I don't think it's ad like. VickKiang ( talk) 03:30, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, —ScottyWong— 23:23, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
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The result was no consensus. Liz Read! Talk! 00:06, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
The Fixed Future
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Appears to fail WP:NBOOK: unable to find significant coverage in either English or Korean. Seems to have been written mostly by the author. Ploni ( talk) 16:46, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Literature, Economics, Korea, and South Korea. Ploni ( talk) 16:46, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
- Update: For whatever is worth, the author of the book denies being involved in writing the wikipedia article on the book.
Al83tito (
talk) 16:36, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
- @ Al83tito Where is that denial, out of curiosity? Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 07:10, 18 July 2022 (UTC)
- I see zero indication that the main contributors, who wrote this while they were students in Piotrus's course in 2019, have any conflict of interest. I tried to assess notability but unfortunately, I'm having a hard time parsing Korean-language sources. DanCherek ( talk) 21:10, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
- My flagging of a possible COI was from the similarity of the main contributor's account name ( User:Chaeyoung907) and the author of the book (Cho Young-tae). That said, if this was a student project then it seems very unlikely. – Ploni ( talk) 21:19, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
- Indeed. Despite a similar name, I can assure you that my student was not the book author :) Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 07:10, 18 July 2022 (UTC)
- Keep. While the article warrants some copyediting tags (for language and style), it passes WP:GNG. RS coverage of the book includes a review in major Korean newspaper ( Kyunghyang Shinmun), and a review by an NGO ( [1]). I am unsure if [2] is a reliable source, and I am having trouble verifying some other sources (MT from Korean to English is still meh), but I think the coverage found by the students show that minimum requirements for GNG/NBOOK (which I interpret as at least two reviews in reliable, independent sources) is met. The odds are there is more but students failed to find it (Korean academic reviews), so a Korean speaker may be able to help us more here. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 07:19, 18 July 2022 (UTC)
- Comment I think I would need to have a further look at the refs, but just looking quickly, I don't think there's much COI here. It's poorly written, and needs c/e, but I don't think it's ad like. VickKiang ( talk) 03:30, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, —ScottyWong— 23:23, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
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