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The result was delete . Per consensus from established editors. Linked below, but for visibility Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Olafrozen. Star Mississippi 19:17, 30 April 2023 (UTC)
Tamal Hadiul
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Likely to fail WP:MUSICBIO. Unable to independently verify claims made in the article, most of the refs are deadlinks (no luck with web archive). Couldn't find much for the subject with WP:BEFORE. KH-1 ( talk) 11:28, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
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KH-1 (
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- keep He is now more popular as a music producer than as a singer. He is quite a remarkable person. Note that a music producer has less media presence due to being off camera.
Wihidolac (
talk) 14:54, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
- Another sock? আফতাবুজ্জামান ( talk) 20:24, 24 April 2023 (UTC)
- keep He is now more popular as a music producer than as a singer. He is quite a remarkable person. Note that a music producer has less media presence due to being off camera.
Wihidolac (
talk) 14:54, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
keep An earlier version of the article was in error which has now been corrected. The man has also worked as a music producer for notable Bangladeshi films and TV drama series. Haxmelo ( talk) 15:07, 22 April 2023 (UTC)(Note: Blocked sock. MarioGom ( talk) 13:17, 23 April 2023 (UTC))
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bangladesh-related deletion discussions. Shellwood ( talk) 12:36, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
- Keep. He is one of the famous music producers of Bangladesh. I'm new to Wikipedia, so news citations for adding some blacklisted urls were showing dead links, so sorry. However, the mentioned person has also worked as a music producer in several Bangladeshi films. Olafrozen ( talk) 13:09, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
- Comment this page is overrun with SPAs and duplicate votes. Noone has made any argument on how the subject meets WP:MUSICBIO.- KH-1 ( talk) 02:48, 23 April 2023 (UTC)
- Comment I am aware of the mentioned music producer. He was awarded as the best music producer of Bangladesh, having completed the soundtracks of popular drama series like Punorjonmo, Mohanagar. I fixed it by removing the deadlinked references from the page. Since it has importance, I request you to keep this article. Olafrozen ( talk) 06:05, 24 April 2023 (UTC)
- Delete: Does not appear to meet WP:MUSICBIO. I'm also concerned about the SPAs that are showing up, it reeks of canvassing at the very least. Hey man im josh ( talk) 13:30, 24 April 2023 (UTC)
- Keep: Do not express opinions based on personal conflicts. It is suitable for Wikipedia according to notability. This music producer fully fulfills the
WP:MUSICBIO creation. Many of his news articles have been published in Bengali language You should know that after a certain period of time, some web articles can get pushed far down the search result. This does not mean that he will be inappropriate.
MirRahmanMustafiz (
talk) 19:31, 24 April 2023 (UTC)
- I have concern. আফতাবুজ্জামান ( talk) 20:21, 24 April 2023 (UTC)
- Delete. Subject fail WP:MUSICBIO. Subject did not received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. I don't think mediatcb.com, www.newsbangla24.com, www.thetoptens.com are reliable sources. deshrupantor.com seems promotional & bangla.bdnews24.com seems passing mentions. -- আফতাবুজ্জামান ( talk) 20:18, 24 April 2023 (UTC)
- Comment - see Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Olafrozen. Vinegarymass911 ( talk) 00:31, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
- Delete BLP, fails GNG and BIO. My source eval:
Comments Source This is from "China’s No. 1 Local Newswire in Press Release Distribution & Target Media Publication" 1. "That's why singer Tamal Hadiul's pseudonym is Heemadrit". The China Box. Name mentioned in list of other artists 2. ^ "ঈদে দুরন্ত টিভিতে ব্যান্ড শো 'দুরন্তপনা'". BD News 24 (in Bengali). Retrieved 20 April 2023. This meets IS RS and is SIGCOV 3. ^ "তমালের নতুন গান 'নজর'". News Bangla 24 (in Bengali). Retrieved 29 June 2022. This meets IS RS and is very weak SIGCOV 4. ^ "আইচ সং থেকে তমালের ঈদের গান 'আকাশের বুকে'". দৈনিক সকালের বার্তা (in Bengali). Top Ten list, not SIGCOV 5. ^ "Tamal is now in the top ten". Thetopten. Retrieved 17 January 2023. Routine entertainment business news 6. ^ "Agreement between Tamal and Soundtek". Basically a duplicate of above 7. ^ "নতুন পরিচয়ে এবার তমাল". দেশ রূপান্তর (in Bengali). Retrieved 1 July 2022. Fails V, 404 8. ^ "রহস্য গল্পে তমালের তুমিও বিষাক্ত". The Daily Ittefaq (in Bengali). Retrieved 21 September 2022.
- The above keep votes have not provided any sources to show notability.
- BEFORE showed promo, nothing that meets SIGCOV from IS RS addressing the subject directly and indepth.
- This article has 1 and oneish sources and is very questionable. The guidelines defer to WP:BLP policy. WP:BLP states "Be very firm about the use of high-quality sources"'; BLPs need IS RS with SIGCOV addressing the subject directly and indepth for both content and notability per well known core policy ( WP:V and WP:BLP) and guidelines ( WP:BIO and WP:IS, WP:RS, WP:SIGCOV). // Timothy :: talk 22:37, 27 April 2023 (UTC)
- Delete: It fails WP:MUSICBIO. CastJared ( talk) 18:51, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
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The result was delete . Per consensus from established editors. Linked below, but for visibility Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Olafrozen. Star Mississippi 19:17, 30 April 2023 (UTC)
Tamal Hadiul
|
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Likely to fail WP:MUSICBIO. Unable to independently verify claims made in the article, most of the refs are deadlinks (no luck with web archive). Couldn't find much for the subject with WP:BEFORE. KH-1 ( talk) 11:28, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the
list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.
KH-1 (
talk) 11:28, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
- keep He is now more popular as a music producer than as a singer. He is quite a remarkable person. Note that a music producer has less media presence due to being off camera.
Wihidolac (
talk) 14:54, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
- Another sock? আফতাবুজ্জামান ( talk) 20:24, 24 April 2023 (UTC)
- keep He is now more popular as a music producer than as a singer. He is quite a remarkable person. Note that a music producer has less media presence due to being off camera.
Wihidolac (
talk) 14:54, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
keep An earlier version of the article was in error which has now been corrected. The man has also worked as a music producer for notable Bangladeshi films and TV drama series. Haxmelo ( talk) 15:07, 22 April 2023 (UTC)(Note: Blocked sock. MarioGom ( talk) 13:17, 23 April 2023 (UTC))
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bangladesh-related deletion discussions. Shellwood ( talk) 12:36, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
- Keep. He is one of the famous music producers of Bangladesh. I'm new to Wikipedia, so news citations for adding some blacklisted urls were showing dead links, so sorry. However, the mentioned person has also worked as a music producer in several Bangladeshi films. Olafrozen ( talk) 13:09, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
- Comment this page is overrun with SPAs and duplicate votes. Noone has made any argument on how the subject meets WP:MUSICBIO.- KH-1 ( talk) 02:48, 23 April 2023 (UTC)
- Comment I am aware of the mentioned music producer. He was awarded as the best music producer of Bangladesh, having completed the soundtracks of popular drama series like Punorjonmo, Mohanagar. I fixed it by removing the deadlinked references from the page. Since it has importance, I request you to keep this article. Olafrozen ( talk) 06:05, 24 April 2023 (UTC)
- Delete: Does not appear to meet WP:MUSICBIO. I'm also concerned about the SPAs that are showing up, it reeks of canvassing at the very least. Hey man im josh ( talk) 13:30, 24 April 2023 (UTC)
- Keep: Do not express opinions based on personal conflicts. It is suitable for Wikipedia according to notability. This music producer fully fulfills the
WP:MUSICBIO creation. Many of his news articles have been published in Bengali language You should know that after a certain period of time, some web articles can get pushed far down the search result. This does not mean that he will be inappropriate.
MirRahmanMustafiz (
talk) 19:31, 24 April 2023 (UTC)
- I have concern. আফতাবুজ্জামান ( talk) 20:21, 24 April 2023 (UTC)
- Delete. Subject fail WP:MUSICBIO. Subject did not received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. I don't think mediatcb.com, www.newsbangla24.com, www.thetoptens.com are reliable sources. deshrupantor.com seems promotional & bangla.bdnews24.com seems passing mentions. -- আফতাবুজ্জামান ( talk) 20:18, 24 April 2023 (UTC)
- Comment - see Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Olafrozen. Vinegarymass911 ( talk) 00:31, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
- Delete BLP, fails GNG and BIO. My source eval:
Comments Source This is from "China’s No. 1 Local Newswire in Press Release Distribution & Target Media Publication" 1. "That's why singer Tamal Hadiul's pseudonym is Heemadrit". The China Box. Name mentioned in list of other artists 2. ^ "ঈদে দুরন্ত টিভিতে ব্যান্ড শো 'দুরন্তপনা'". BD News 24 (in Bengali). Retrieved 20 April 2023. This meets IS RS and is SIGCOV 3. ^ "তমালের নতুন গান 'নজর'". News Bangla 24 (in Bengali). Retrieved 29 June 2022. This meets IS RS and is very weak SIGCOV 4. ^ "আইচ সং থেকে তমালের ঈদের গান 'আকাশের বুকে'". দৈনিক সকালের বার্তা (in Bengali). Top Ten list, not SIGCOV 5. ^ "Tamal is now in the top ten". Thetopten. Retrieved 17 January 2023. Routine entertainment business news 6. ^ "Agreement between Tamal and Soundtek". Basically a duplicate of above 7. ^ "নতুন পরিচয়ে এবার তমাল". দেশ রূপান্তর (in Bengali). Retrieved 1 July 2022. Fails V, 404 8. ^ "রহস্য গল্পে তমালের তুমিও বিষাক্ত". The Daily Ittefaq (in Bengali). Retrieved 21 September 2022.
- The above keep votes have not provided any sources to show notability.
- BEFORE showed promo, nothing that meets SIGCOV from IS RS addressing the subject directly and indepth.
- This article has 1 and oneish sources and is very questionable. The guidelines defer to WP:BLP policy. WP:BLP states "Be very firm about the use of high-quality sources"'; BLPs need IS RS with SIGCOV addressing the subject directly and indepth for both content and notability per well known core policy ( WP:V and WP:BLP) and guidelines ( WP:BIO and WP:IS, WP:RS, WP:SIGCOV). // Timothy :: talk 22:37, 27 April 2023 (UTC)
- Delete: It fails WP:MUSICBIO. CastJared ( talk) 18:51, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.