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The result was no consensus. Later comments found some relevant mentions in outside sources, indicating that this cuisine is "a thing." Joyous! | Talk 14:51, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
Sylheti cuisine
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WP:SYNTH and WP:OR. None of the sources in this article point towards a distinct Sylheti cusine; rather they talk about certain dishes which originate from the Sylhet district or happen to be popularly eaten in Sylhet. There is no source which mentions Sylheti cuisine to be notable in its own right. The article is also poorly written, and mentions unrelated content such as pop culture and information about nutrition. This article should be deleted. UserNumber ( talk) 20:33, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bangladesh-related deletion discussions. UserNumber ( talk) 20:33, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2022 October 31. UserNumber ( talk) 20:33, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- Delete: The article is also similar to the
Chittagonian cuisine article which was
deleted for the same reasons which I highlighted. Perhaps @
Alexandermcnabb: and @
SnowFire: can take a look at this too.
UserNumber (
talk)
20:37, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- Procedural comment. UserNumber, if you're going to ping people in a previous AFD, please either ping all participants or none of them - you've currently only pinged "delete" voters which can create some WP:CANVASS concerns. I'll ping them here now so no need to do this yourself, but something to remember for future AFDs. @ UserNumber, Piotrus, Vinegarymass911, Valereee, Mehediabedin, and Spudlace: SnowFire ( talk) 20:54, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- Comment. I'm less sure about this one. The article needs substantial rewriting to be less promotional, but that's a cleanup matter rather than an AFD one. The Guardian article suggests a book discusses it even if it is talking about cooks from Sylhet rather than Sylheti cuisine necessarily (just as there's no guarantee that every Italian cooks Italian food, not all Sylheti cooks cook Sylheti food, right?). However, "The Statesman" directly says "The reason being a reasonable percentage of the restaurants in Brick Lane are run by Bangladeshis from Sylhet, whose spoken words and culinary preferences differ from the rest of the Bangladeshis." If true, that means that Sylheti cuisine really is different from Bangladeshi cuisine in general. And while greatcurryrecipes.com doesn't appear to be a super-high quality site, it is discussing a dish called "Sylheti beef", which is a promising sign that this really is a cuisine type. Haven't exhaustively checked all the references, but it looks like this article might be salvageable. SnowFire ( talk) 21:05, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- Keep I am in complete agreement with
SnowFire... There are a lot of references online, although RS are, at least on the surface, scant.
Transactions in Taste: The Collaborative Lives of Everyday Bengali Food is, however, a nice, neat reference (
this one is a blog and so isn't, which is a shame) and there's enough bouncing around out there, including websites for 'Sylheti Bangladeshi' restaurants in the UK to convince me that this is a thing. However, the article itself is a mess of unsourced OR - but then, altogether now, AfD isn't cleanup. Best
Alexandermcnabb (
talk)
04:02, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
- @
Alexandermcnabb: The vast majority of those restaurants serve Indian food, and even advertise as such. It is merely just owned by Sylheti Bangladeshi businessmen.
UserNumber (
talk)
14:10, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
- I'm not going to get deep into it, because it's sort of irrelevant and NOT RS, but here's a review of an 'authentic Sylheti restaurant' in London - one of a number in Brick Lane - selling easily identifiable and uniquely Sylheti dishes. This, BTW, IS an RS outlet talking Sylheti food. I think, in short, we have 'a thing' and it is a notable thing, at that. Best Alexandermcnabb ( talk) 14:58, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
- @
Alexandermcnabb: The vast majority of those restaurants serve Indian food, and even advertise as such. It is merely just owned by Sylheti Bangladeshi businessmen.
UserNumber (
talk)
14:10, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
- Comment. Since I was pinged. One mention of the term in GScholar. Several in GBooks. Borderline, I'll not vote for now. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:41, 2 November 2022 (UTC)
Delete No any reliable source. If there is please ping me. Kasar Wuya ( talk) 10:24, 2 November 2022 (UTC)
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The result was no consensus. Later comments found some relevant mentions in outside sources, indicating that this cuisine is "a thing." Joyous! | Talk 14:51, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
Sylheti cuisine
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WP:SYNTH and WP:OR. None of the sources in this article point towards a distinct Sylheti cusine; rather they talk about certain dishes which originate from the Sylhet district or happen to be popularly eaten in Sylhet. There is no source which mentions Sylheti cuisine to be notable in its own right. The article is also poorly written, and mentions unrelated content such as pop culture and information about nutrition. This article should be deleted. UserNumber ( talk) 20:33, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bangladesh-related deletion discussions. UserNumber ( talk) 20:33, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2022 October 31. UserNumber ( talk) 20:33, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- Delete: The article is also similar to the
Chittagonian cuisine article which was
deleted for the same reasons which I highlighted. Perhaps @
Alexandermcnabb: and @
SnowFire: can take a look at this too.
UserNumber (
talk)
20:37, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- Procedural comment. UserNumber, if you're going to ping people in a previous AFD, please either ping all participants or none of them - you've currently only pinged "delete" voters which can create some WP:CANVASS concerns. I'll ping them here now so no need to do this yourself, but something to remember for future AFDs. @ UserNumber, Piotrus, Vinegarymass911, Valereee, Mehediabedin, and Spudlace: SnowFire ( talk) 20:54, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- Comment. I'm less sure about this one. The article needs substantial rewriting to be less promotional, but that's a cleanup matter rather than an AFD one. The Guardian article suggests a book discusses it even if it is talking about cooks from Sylhet rather than Sylheti cuisine necessarily (just as there's no guarantee that every Italian cooks Italian food, not all Sylheti cooks cook Sylheti food, right?). However, "The Statesman" directly says "The reason being a reasonable percentage of the restaurants in Brick Lane are run by Bangladeshis from Sylhet, whose spoken words and culinary preferences differ from the rest of the Bangladeshis." If true, that means that Sylheti cuisine really is different from Bangladeshi cuisine in general. And while greatcurryrecipes.com doesn't appear to be a super-high quality site, it is discussing a dish called "Sylheti beef", which is a promising sign that this really is a cuisine type. Haven't exhaustively checked all the references, but it looks like this article might be salvageable. SnowFire ( talk) 21:05, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- Keep I am in complete agreement with
SnowFire... There are a lot of references online, although RS are, at least on the surface, scant.
Transactions in Taste: The Collaborative Lives of Everyday Bengali Food is, however, a nice, neat reference (
this one is a blog and so isn't, which is a shame) and there's enough bouncing around out there, including websites for 'Sylheti Bangladeshi' restaurants in the UK to convince me that this is a thing. However, the article itself is a mess of unsourced OR - but then, altogether now, AfD isn't cleanup. Best
Alexandermcnabb (
talk)
04:02, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
- @
Alexandermcnabb: The vast majority of those restaurants serve Indian food, and even advertise as such. It is merely just owned by Sylheti Bangladeshi businessmen.
UserNumber (
talk)
14:10, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
- I'm not going to get deep into it, because it's sort of irrelevant and NOT RS, but here's a review of an 'authentic Sylheti restaurant' in London - one of a number in Brick Lane - selling easily identifiable and uniquely Sylheti dishes. This, BTW, IS an RS outlet talking Sylheti food. I think, in short, we have 'a thing' and it is a notable thing, at that. Best Alexandermcnabb ( talk) 14:58, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
- @
Alexandermcnabb: The vast majority of those restaurants serve Indian food, and even advertise as such. It is merely just owned by Sylheti Bangladeshi businessmen.
UserNumber (
talk)
14:10, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
- Comment. Since I was pinged. One mention of the term in GScholar. Several in GBooks. Borderline, I'll not vote for now. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:41, 2 November 2022 (UTC)
Delete No any reliable source. If there is please ping me. Kasar Wuya ( talk) 10:24, 2 November 2022 (UTC)
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