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The result was delete. -- Patar knight - chat/ contributions 05:26, 10 June 2017 (UTC)
Steve Huff
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WP:FRINGEBLP of an investigator. Every last one of the references goes to either WP:SELFPUB websites of true believers or self-promotion. None of the claims in the article is backed up by independent sourcing and it is likely that we have either WP:SOAP issues or perhaps a poorly-executed article produced for pay. Once people who are not "paranormal investigators" notice this fellow, he can rise to the WP:BIO threshold, but as of now this seems an obvious delete. jps ( talk) 10:57, 2 June 2017 (UTC)
- Delete: Fails WP:BIO No secondary sources outside of blogs found so far. KarlPoppery ( talk) 11:20, 2 June 2017 (UTC)
- Delete: Not finding any RS supporting notability, and whilst (normally) I would say "in universe" notability counts I am not even getting great deal of that. Slatersteven ( talk) 11:35, 2 June 2017 (UTC)
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- Delete: No evidence of notability. -- Guy Macon ( talk) 12:35, 2 June 2017 (UTC)
- Delete Fails WP:BLPNOTE. - LuckyLouie ( talk) 14:40, 2 June 2017 (UTC)
- But... but... he has 166000 followers on Youtube !!!!! Hahem. Delete, per nom. — Gamall Wednesday Ida ( t · c) 16:42, 2 June 2017 (UTC)
- Delete In this case it is not notability that concerns me, but that this seems like a BLP violation. The main text of the article uses substandard sources to claim that 1) he has suffered brain damage twice as a child(!) and 2) other paranormal investigators consider him to lack morals. This sounds like a hatchet job. We have more sympathetic articles on Billy the Kid and Jesse James. As for the sources, one of them seems to be off-topic anyway. It is a brief mention of a 2015 documentary where Huff appeared, posted on a blog website about horror films. Dimadick ( talk) 22:57, 2 June 2017 (UTC)
- Delete I just looked for sources (I initially thought, maybe a Youtube celeb afterall) but I failed to find anything credible demonstrating notability. — Paleo Neonate - 00:46, 3 June 2017 (UTC)
I am thinking we can go for a speedy delete. Slatersteven ( talk) 15:41, 3 June 2017 (UTC)
- Delete per most of above. DoctorJoeE review transgressions/ talk to me! 15:49, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
- Delete Nothing suggests notability. Arthistorian1977 ( talk) 09:06, 7 June 2017 (UTC)
- WP:SNOW ? — Gamall Wednesday Ida ( t · c) 11:40, 7 June 2017 (UTC)
Hello hello -- I was thinking: "Steve Huff? Sounds familiar. But this bloke doesn't sound familiar at all." Let's take a look. The article starts:
- Steve Huff is an American photographer. . . .
The reference for that is: <ref>{{cite web|author=Name * |url=https://shotkit.com/steve-huff/ |title=Steve Huff's Camera Gear Exposed |publisher=Shotkit.com |date= |accessdate=2017-06-01}}</ref>.
The Wikipedia article we're discussing tells us that Huff's website is
www
- My name is Steve Huff and I run and own SteveHuffPhoto, a camera and lens review site that I started 5 years ago as a way to provide real world use results of cameras and lenses.
SteveHuffPhoto has a page titled "so who am I"; its content isn't strangely capitalized, it doesn't mention the string "paranormal", and a skimread -- it's rather long -- doesn't show any fringe beliefs or activities.
Huffparanormal.com has an "about me" page that once, obscurely, mentions camera reviews but mostly bumbles on (with Lots of Capitals) about the paranormal.
What evidence is there that the Huff of huffparanormal.com and the Huff of stevehuffphoto.com are the same person? -- Hoary ( talk) 07:11, 8 June 2017 (UTC)
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Steve Huff Photo/
Steve Huff Paranormal. Also
C2CAM. Same guy. -
LuckyLouie (
talk) 11:55, 8 June 2017 (UTC)
- Good work, LuckyLouie. Well, Huff is less a photographer than a writer about photographic gear. As the latter, he's not negligible, but I struggle to see [WP-defined] notability. -- Hoary ( talk) 13:45, 8 June 2017 (UTC)
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The result was delete. -- Patar knight - chat/ contributions 05:26, 10 June 2017 (UTC)
Steve Huff
- Steve Huff ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
- (Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)
WP:FRINGEBLP of an investigator. Every last one of the references goes to either WP:SELFPUB websites of true believers or self-promotion. None of the claims in the article is backed up by independent sourcing and it is likely that we have either WP:SOAP issues or perhaps a poorly-executed article produced for pay. Once people who are not "paranormal investigators" notice this fellow, he can rise to the WP:BIO threshold, but as of now this seems an obvious delete. jps ( talk) 10:57, 2 June 2017 (UTC)
- Delete: Fails WP:BIO No secondary sources outside of blogs found so far. KarlPoppery ( talk) 11:20, 2 June 2017 (UTC)
- Delete: Not finding any RS supporting notability, and whilst (normally) I would say "in universe" notability counts I am not even getting great deal of that. Slatersteven ( talk) 11:35, 2 June 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Arizona-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 11:44, 2 June 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 11:44, 2 June 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Photography-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 11:45, 2 June 2017 (UTC)
- Delete: No evidence of notability. -- Guy Macon ( talk) 12:35, 2 June 2017 (UTC)
- Delete Fails WP:BLPNOTE. - LuckyLouie ( talk) 14:40, 2 June 2017 (UTC)
- But... but... he has 166000 followers on Youtube !!!!! Hahem. Delete, per nom. — Gamall Wednesday Ida ( t · c) 16:42, 2 June 2017 (UTC)
- Delete In this case it is not notability that concerns me, but that this seems like a BLP violation. The main text of the article uses substandard sources to claim that 1) he has suffered brain damage twice as a child(!) and 2) other paranormal investigators consider him to lack morals. This sounds like a hatchet job. We have more sympathetic articles on Billy the Kid and Jesse James. As for the sources, one of them seems to be off-topic anyway. It is a brief mention of a 2015 documentary where Huff appeared, posted on a blog website about horror films. Dimadick ( talk) 22:57, 2 June 2017 (UTC)
- Delete I just looked for sources (I initially thought, maybe a Youtube celeb afterall) but I failed to find anything credible demonstrating notability. — Paleo Neonate - 00:46, 3 June 2017 (UTC)
I am thinking we can go for a speedy delete. Slatersteven ( talk) 15:41, 3 June 2017 (UTC)
- Delete per most of above. DoctorJoeE review transgressions/ talk to me! 15:49, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
- Delete Nothing suggests notability. Arthistorian1977 ( talk) 09:06, 7 June 2017 (UTC)
- WP:SNOW ? — Gamall Wednesday Ida ( t · c) 11:40, 7 June 2017 (UTC)
Hello hello -- I was thinking: "Steve Huff? Sounds familiar. But this bloke doesn't sound familiar at all." Let's take a look. The article starts:
- Steve Huff is an American photographer. . . .
The reference for that is: <ref>{{cite web|author=Name * |url=https://shotkit.com/steve-huff/ |title=Steve Huff's Camera Gear Exposed |publisher=Shotkit.com |date= |accessdate=2017-06-01}}</ref>.
The Wikipedia article we're discussing tells us that Huff's website is
www
- My name is Steve Huff and I run and own SteveHuffPhoto, a camera and lens review site that I started 5 years ago as a way to provide real world use results of cameras and lenses.
SteveHuffPhoto has a page titled "so who am I"; its content isn't strangely capitalized, it doesn't mention the string "paranormal", and a skimread -- it's rather long -- doesn't show any fringe beliefs or activities.
Huffparanormal.com has an "about me" page that once, obscurely, mentions camera reviews but mostly bumbles on (with Lots of Capitals) about the paranormal.
What evidence is there that the Huff of huffparanormal.com and the Huff of stevehuffphoto.com are the same person? -- Hoary ( talk) 07:11, 8 June 2017 (UTC)
-
Steve Huff Photo/
Steve Huff Paranormal. Also
C2CAM. Same guy. -
LuckyLouie (
talk) 11:55, 8 June 2017 (UTC)
- Good work, LuckyLouie. Well, Huff is less a photographer than a writer about photographic gear. As the latter, he's not negligible, but I struggle to see [WP-defined] notability. -- Hoary ( talk) 13:45, 8 June 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 03:32, 9 June 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Paranormal-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 03:32, 9 June 2017 (UTC)
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