- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. AFD deletion discussions are determined by policy-based arguments, not on speculating on the motives of the nominator. Let me know if you would like to work on this article in Draft space so that it might one day be approved by AFC. Liz Read! Talk! 05:42, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
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Non-notable radio personality, does not meet the criteria of WP:BIO and WP:GNG, the references are primary and unreliable that are just interviews, and no other in-depth importance found in reliable, secondary and independent sources. M.Ashraf333 ( talk) 05:52, 17 January 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People, Actors and filmmakers, Artists, Women, Radio, and Pakistan. M.Ashraf333 ( talk) 05:52, 17 January 2023 (UTC)
- Weak delete - Apart from interviews, there are a few sources like
Pakistan Today (the non-interview part) and
Forbes that suggest some notability but overall not enough to pass
WP:GNG.
Insight 3 (
talk)
14:25, 17 January 2023 (UTC)
- The Pakistan Today ref is the part of interview as the interviewer introducing her, if there was no interview, then obviously that part would not have happened. Forbes's contributor is also expressing the views of herself and the 2 RJs, conversion were held in Lahore cafe, clearly the primary source. M.Ashraf333 ( talk) 06:41, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
- Weak delete Though the subject is close to passing
WP:GNG.
Editorkamran (
talk)
05:57, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
- @ Editorkamran, close to passing WP:GNG. HOW? M.Ashraf333 ( talk) 06:42, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
- Reliable page the subject have enough sources or links to let the article stay on wikipedia to define the radio personality who is working in the media industry from last 12 years. the forbes and other sources are talking abour her work which confirms her news and lifestyle being a public figure, will keep editing to improve the article. kindly close the debate on deletion of this page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rmpwork ( talk • contribs) 19:56, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
- Personal Issue i strongly believe M.Ashraf333 have some personaly issue with my contribution to wikipedia where he have targeted 2 articles of mine. the first one of a pakistani movie which was filled with all sourced news links and eligiblity to be on wikipedia and now this, i don’t want to move and put deletion on your edited articles M.Ashraf333 so close this discussion and keep contributing to wikipedia in a positive way. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rmpwork ( talk • contribs) 20:01, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
- Keep This user unnecessary nominating articles for deletion. 111.119.188.13 ( talk) 07:49, 19 January 2023 (UTC)
- Comment All the articles that this User has put AFD tag on are Notable. of this User personal agenda based problem with Pakistani articles and other Which is its main problem article to be deleted. It has disturbed many articles and is disturbing many articles. And it mostly tries to for deletion as daily practice articles The same user made a name on a proper Wikipedia by creating 10-12 articles from his user page and after that he thought that no one can stop you to disturb me. it's ravaging at a very high rate. It has gone through many battles. with too many users this User should be banned asap. 11:55, 20 January 2023 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Parkashjit Singh30 ( talk • contribs)
- Delete: NN bio. Fails all relevant notability tests. UtherSRG (talk) 19:25, 20 January 2023 (UTC)
- Keep: The references are notable and strong — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rmpwork ( talk • contribs) 19:25, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Linguist111 ( talk) 06:08, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
- Delete - based on my search and sources in the article, per WP:BASIC and WP:PROMO. There are several interviews without substantial secondary context or commentary, in a Q&A format, e.g. Daily Times (August 17, 2022), Fashion Times (August 24, 2022), The Express Tribune (July 23, 2018), several questionable sources, e.g. Propergaanda, Something Haute, HipInPakistan, GalaxyLollywood, and Brecoder, a non-RS WP:FORBESCON source, and what appears to be a recycled press release, even though it is bylined ( PNI, Dec. 30, 2020) because the same copy appears in The Nation (Dec. 30, 2020). The best source appears to be Pakistan Today (Sept. 3, 2016) because it includes a brief overview of her career before the interview, but this (including the awards) does not appear to be enough to support WP:BASIC or other forms of notability per the guidelines and policies. Beccaynr ( talk) 16:01, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
- Delete: Barely found anything about him aside from mostly interviews. Those aren't useful for the article to pass WP:BIO. ASTIG️🎉 ( HAPPY 2023) 00:30, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. AFD deletion discussions are determined by policy-based arguments, not on speculating on the motives of the nominator. Let me know if you would like to work on this article in Draft space so that it might one day be approved by AFC. Liz Read! Talk! 05:42, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
[Hide this box] New to Articles for deletion (AfD)? Read these primers!
- Sophiya Anjam ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log | edits since nomination)
- (Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)
Non-notable radio personality, does not meet the criteria of WP:BIO and WP:GNG, the references are primary and unreliable that are just interviews, and no other in-depth importance found in reliable, secondary and independent sources. M.Ashraf333 ( talk) 05:52, 17 January 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People, Actors and filmmakers, Artists, Women, Radio, and Pakistan. M.Ashraf333 ( talk) 05:52, 17 January 2023 (UTC)
- Weak delete - Apart from interviews, there are a few sources like
Pakistan Today (the non-interview part) and
Forbes that suggest some notability but overall not enough to pass
WP:GNG.
Insight 3 (
talk)
14:25, 17 January 2023 (UTC)
- The Pakistan Today ref is the part of interview as the interviewer introducing her, if there was no interview, then obviously that part would not have happened. Forbes's contributor is also expressing the views of herself and the 2 RJs, conversion were held in Lahore cafe, clearly the primary source. M.Ashraf333 ( talk) 06:41, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
- Weak delete Though the subject is close to passing
WP:GNG.
Editorkamran (
talk)
05:57, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
- @ Editorkamran, close to passing WP:GNG. HOW? M.Ashraf333 ( talk) 06:42, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
- Reliable page the subject have enough sources or links to let the article stay on wikipedia to define the radio personality who is working in the media industry from last 12 years. the forbes and other sources are talking abour her work which confirms her news and lifestyle being a public figure, will keep editing to improve the article. kindly close the debate on deletion of this page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rmpwork ( talk • contribs) 19:56, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
- Personal Issue i strongly believe M.Ashraf333 have some personaly issue with my contribution to wikipedia where he have targeted 2 articles of mine. the first one of a pakistani movie which was filled with all sourced news links and eligiblity to be on wikipedia and now this, i don’t want to move and put deletion on your edited articles M.Ashraf333 so close this discussion and keep contributing to wikipedia in a positive way. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rmpwork ( talk • contribs) 20:01, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
- Keep This user unnecessary nominating articles for deletion. 111.119.188.13 ( talk) 07:49, 19 January 2023 (UTC)
- Comment All the articles that this User has put AFD tag on are Notable. of this User personal agenda based problem with Pakistani articles and other Which is its main problem article to be deleted. It has disturbed many articles and is disturbing many articles. And it mostly tries to for deletion as daily practice articles The same user made a name on a proper Wikipedia by creating 10-12 articles from his user page and after that he thought that no one can stop you to disturb me. it's ravaging at a very high rate. It has gone through many battles. with too many users this User should be banned asap. 11:55, 20 January 2023 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Parkashjit Singh30 ( talk • contribs)
- Delete: NN bio. Fails all relevant notability tests. UtherSRG (talk) 19:25, 20 January 2023 (UTC)
- Keep: The references are notable and strong — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rmpwork ( talk • contribs) 19:25, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Linguist111 ( talk) 06:08, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
- Delete - based on my search and sources in the article, per WP:BASIC and WP:PROMO. There are several interviews without substantial secondary context or commentary, in a Q&A format, e.g. Daily Times (August 17, 2022), Fashion Times (August 24, 2022), The Express Tribune (July 23, 2018), several questionable sources, e.g. Propergaanda, Something Haute, HipInPakistan, GalaxyLollywood, and Brecoder, a non-RS WP:FORBESCON source, and what appears to be a recycled press release, even though it is bylined ( PNI, Dec. 30, 2020) because the same copy appears in The Nation (Dec. 30, 2020). The best source appears to be Pakistan Today (Sept. 3, 2016) because it includes a brief overview of her career before the interview, but this (including the awards) does not appear to be enough to support WP:BASIC or other forms of notability per the guidelines and policies. Beccaynr ( talk) 16:01, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
- Delete: Barely found anything about him aside from mostly interviews. Those aren't useful for the article to pass WP:BIO. ASTIG️🎉 ( HAPPY 2023) 00:30, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.