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The result was redirect to DMK (band)#Permanent Hiatus and Compilation Album (2021-2022) as a reasonable ATD Star Mississippi 03:30, 17 December 2022 (UTC)
Songs of Tiny Devotion: A Family Tribute to Depeche Mode 2010-2022
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28 references, wow! Only one of them actually seems to be about this record though, the first one, which is their homepage. Not surprising, as this release has received no attention at all [1]. Fram ( talk) 11:27, 9 December 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Music and Colombia. Fram ( talk) 11:27, 9 December 2022 (UTC)
- This article is still work-in-progress. It will be finished next week with more references. The record has not received attention because it was just released two days ago and has not been released on Spotify, after which the band will officially release it to its fans on social media.
2600:4041:5B07:EE00:6DC6:E93B:1030:2AF0 (
talk)
12:57, 9 December 2022 (UTC)
- Being on Spotify and social media doesn't make the album notable if nobody outside of the band's social media is talking about it. At the moment it looks like both this and
Dicken Schrader could be redirected to
DMK (band) (which also suffers from massive citation overkill).
Richard3120 (
talk)
17:36, 11 December 2022 (UTC)
- I agree, the record still has not received any attention because it has not been officially released yet. When it does, we usually get a few interviews and articles outside of social media. I should have built this article as a draft until I get more relevant references.
- As for "Dicken Schrader" the article has enough references to make it relevant. Dicken Schrader is notable in his own right for being one of the fans featured in the official Depeche Mode movie, outside his involvement with DMK which made him viral in 2012.
2600:4041:580E:7A00:4CD6:5BB3:B1F8:7DB2 (
talk)
14:11, 12 December 2022 (UTC)
- It doesn't have "enough" references - it has way too many references. And quantity does not equal quality... most of them are passing mentions, references to DMK, or interviews with him which fail
WP:PRIMARY. But that's for another AfD.
Richard3120 (
talk)
14:54, 12 December 2022 (UTC)
- Although there are mentions in The Guardian, The Huffington Post, CBS News, etc, there are also interviews in El Tiempo (Colombia's largest newspaper), which did a main article on Schrader and the band, plus other important publications around the world. 2600:4041:580E:7A00:4CD6:5BB3:B1F8:7DB2 ( talk) 16:27, 12 December 2022 (UTC)
- Also, you say "we get a few interviews". So are you in fact Dicken Schrader, and should you be declaring a
conflict of interest?
Richard3120 (
talk)
14:56, 12 December 2022 (UTC)
- I am not, but I help him and the band with their releases and social media presence. 2600:4041:580E:7A00:4CD6:5BB3:B1F8:7DB2 ( talk) 16:23, 12 December 2022 (UTC)
- It doesn't have "enough" references - it has way too many references. And quantity does not equal quality... most of them are passing mentions, references to DMK, or interviews with him which fail
WP:PRIMARY. But that's for another AfD.
Richard3120 (
talk)
14:54, 12 December 2022 (UTC)
- Being on Spotify and social media doesn't make the album notable if nobody outside of the band's social media is talking about it. At the moment it looks like both this and
Dicken Schrader could be redirected to
DMK (band) (which also suffers from massive citation overkill).
Richard3120 (
talk)
17:36, 11 December 2022 (UTC)
- Comment. This article needs to cut back on the citation overkill. The last sentence of this article has 19 footnotes. That's unnecessary and unhelpful; one good citation per fact is enough (taking into account reliability of the source). As the nom indicates, many of the citations don't even refer to this album; the album was released two days ago, and some of the citations are more than ten years old. -- Metropolitan90 (talk) 01:46, 10 December 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. Richard3120 ( talk) 17:37, 11 December 2022 (UTC)
- Delete, or as a second choice redirect to DMK (band). While the citation overkill is no longer a significant issue, the fact remains that most of the citations predate the album's release by at least five years and thus would more appropriately be considered sources for an article about the band's overall career, not for this particular album. -- Metropolitan90 (talk) 16:15, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
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The result was redirect to DMK (band)#Permanent Hiatus and Compilation Album (2021-2022) as a reasonable ATD Star Mississippi 03:30, 17 December 2022 (UTC)
Songs of Tiny Devotion: A Family Tribute to Depeche Mode 2010-2022
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- Songs of Tiny Devotion: A Family Tribute to Depeche Mode 2010-2022 ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log | edits since nomination)
- (Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)
28 references, wow! Only one of them actually seems to be about this record though, the first one, which is their homepage. Not surprising, as this release has received no attention at all [1]. Fram ( talk) 11:27, 9 December 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Music and Colombia. Fram ( talk) 11:27, 9 December 2022 (UTC)
- This article is still work-in-progress. It will be finished next week with more references. The record has not received attention because it was just released two days ago and has not been released on Spotify, after which the band will officially release it to its fans on social media.
2600:4041:5B07:EE00:6DC6:E93B:1030:2AF0 (
talk)
12:57, 9 December 2022 (UTC)
- Being on Spotify and social media doesn't make the album notable if nobody outside of the band's social media is talking about it. At the moment it looks like both this and
Dicken Schrader could be redirected to
DMK (band) (which also suffers from massive citation overkill).
Richard3120 (
talk)
17:36, 11 December 2022 (UTC)
- I agree, the record still has not received any attention because it has not been officially released yet. When it does, we usually get a few interviews and articles outside of social media. I should have built this article as a draft until I get more relevant references.
- As for "Dicken Schrader" the article has enough references to make it relevant. Dicken Schrader is notable in his own right for being one of the fans featured in the official Depeche Mode movie, outside his involvement with DMK which made him viral in 2012.
2600:4041:580E:7A00:4CD6:5BB3:B1F8:7DB2 (
talk)
14:11, 12 December 2022 (UTC)
- It doesn't have "enough" references - it has way too many references. And quantity does not equal quality... most of them are passing mentions, references to DMK, or interviews with him which fail
WP:PRIMARY. But that's for another AfD.
Richard3120 (
talk)
14:54, 12 December 2022 (UTC)
- Although there are mentions in The Guardian, The Huffington Post, CBS News, etc, there are also interviews in El Tiempo (Colombia's largest newspaper), which did a main article on Schrader and the band, plus other important publications around the world. 2600:4041:580E:7A00:4CD6:5BB3:B1F8:7DB2 ( talk) 16:27, 12 December 2022 (UTC)
- Also, you say "we get a few interviews". So are you in fact Dicken Schrader, and should you be declaring a
conflict of interest?
Richard3120 (
talk)
14:56, 12 December 2022 (UTC)
- I am not, but I help him and the band with their releases and social media presence. 2600:4041:580E:7A00:4CD6:5BB3:B1F8:7DB2 ( talk) 16:23, 12 December 2022 (UTC)
- It doesn't have "enough" references - it has way too many references. And quantity does not equal quality... most of them are passing mentions, references to DMK, or interviews with him which fail
WP:PRIMARY. But that's for another AfD.
Richard3120 (
talk)
14:54, 12 December 2022 (UTC)
- Being on Spotify and social media doesn't make the album notable if nobody outside of the band's social media is talking about it. At the moment it looks like both this and
Dicken Schrader could be redirected to
DMK (band) (which also suffers from massive citation overkill).
Richard3120 (
talk)
17:36, 11 December 2022 (UTC)
- Comment. This article needs to cut back on the citation overkill. The last sentence of this article has 19 footnotes. That's unnecessary and unhelpful; one good citation per fact is enough (taking into account reliability of the source). As the nom indicates, many of the citations don't even refer to this album; the album was released two days ago, and some of the citations are more than ten years old. -- Metropolitan90 (talk) 01:46, 10 December 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. Richard3120 ( talk) 17:37, 11 December 2022 (UTC)
- Delete, or as a second choice redirect to DMK (band). While the citation overkill is no longer a significant issue, the fact remains that most of the citations predate the album's release by at least five years and thus would more appropriately be considered sources for an article about the band's overall career, not for this particular album. -- Metropolitan90 (talk) 16:15, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.