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The result was keep. Malcolmxl5 ( talk) 00:27, 27 June 2019 (UTC)
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Non-notable indie rock band. No sources & couldn't find anything on Google Anne drew 22:27, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
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- Keep: their albums were produced by Steve Albini and they were invited to do a session on a John Peel show, so they clearly had international appeal. They have a biography on AllMusic [1] and all three of their albums are reviewed there. The best place to look for information on French alternative music is the magazine Les Inrockuptibles, and the magazine has a lengthy article from 1995 when the band was breaking through [2], a review of their final album from 1997 [3], and reviews of the 2012 digital reissues of all three albums in 2012 [4]. It wouldn't surprise me if the alternative music press in the UK like NME and Melody Maker had coverage in print versions in the 1990s. Richard3120 ( talk) 01:56, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
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- Keep Taking on faith the RS credentials of Les Inrockuptibles per Richard3120 ( talk), although these sources need added and the article needs expanded by someone who can read French. ShelbyMarion ( talk) 14:38, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
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ShelbyMarion: I don't think it's an exaggeration to say it's France's most famous music magazine ever, as well known and respected in France as, say, Rolling Stone in the US or NME in the UK.
Richard3120 (
talk)
14:49, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you, Richard3120 ( talk). Being neither French or a speaker of the language, I was unfamiliar with it. It's nice to know some English language wikipedia editors are. ShelbyMarion ( talk) 16:47, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
- @
ShelbyMarion: I don't think it's an exaggeration to say it's France's most famous music magazine ever, as well known and respected in France as, say, Rolling Stone in the US or NME in the UK.
Richard3120 (
talk)
14:49, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
- Keep as per the coverage identified above that shows significant coverage in multiple reliable sources showing the band passes criteria 1 of
WP:NMUSIC (only one criteria needed) as well as passing
WP:GNG, thanks
Atlantic306 (
talk)
22:41, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
- @
Atlantic306: Passes
WP:GNG? How so? GNG says
If a topic has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject, it is presumed to be suitable for a stand-alone article or list.
Are you sure? Masum Reza 📞 03:40, 23 June 2019 (UTC)
- @
Atlantic306: Passes
WP:GNG? How so? GNG says
- Yes with Allmusic, bio and reviews in Allmusic, lengthy article in French music magazine detailed above, that is independent and significant so
WP:GNG is passed
Atlantic306 (
talk)
19:18, 23 June 2019 (UTC)
- The English article has zero reference. Please consider adding those sources here in the English article to establish notability. Masum Reza 📞 19:27, 23 June 2019 (UTC)
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WP:Do it yourself
Atlantic306 (
talk)
22:00, 23 June 2019 (UTC)
- I would love to. But unfortunately I don't know French.
Masum Reza
📞
22:06, 23 June 2019 (UTC)
- Have added the refs to the article so it just needs expanding now using those sources, thanks
Atlantic306 (
talk)
22:22, 23 June 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks for doing that. I am positive that more reliable sources exist. Masum Reza 📞 06:31, 26 June 2019 (UTC)
- Have added the refs to the article so it just needs expanding now using those sources, thanks
Atlantic306 (
talk)
22:22, 23 June 2019 (UTC)
- I would love to. But unfortunately I don't know French.
Masum Reza
📞
22:06, 23 June 2019 (UTC)
- Yes with Allmusic, bio and reviews in Allmusic, lengthy article in French music magazine detailed above, that is independent and significant so
WP:GNG is passed
Atlantic306 (
talk)
19:18, 23 June 2019 (UTC)
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The result was keep. Malcolmxl5 ( talk) 00:27, 27 June 2019 (UTC)
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Non-notable indie rock band. No sources & couldn't find anything on Google Anne drew 22:27, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Anne drew 22:27, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
- Keep: their albums were produced by Steve Albini and they were invited to do a session on a John Peel show, so they clearly had international appeal. They have a biography on AllMusic [1] and all three of their albums are reviewed there. The best place to look for information on French alternative music is the magazine Les Inrockuptibles, and the magazine has a lengthy article from 1995 when the band was breaking through [2], a review of their final album from 1997 [3], and reviews of the 2012 digital reissues of all three albums in 2012 [4]. It wouldn't surprise me if the alternative music press in the UK like NME and Melody Maker had coverage in print versions in the 1990s. Richard3120 ( talk) 01:56, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of France-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 05:21, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
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- Keep Taking on faith the RS credentials of Les Inrockuptibles per Richard3120 ( talk), although these sources need added and the article needs expanded by someone who can read French. ShelbyMarion ( talk) 14:38, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
- @
ShelbyMarion: I don't think it's an exaggeration to say it's France's most famous music magazine ever, as well known and respected in France as, say, Rolling Stone in the US or NME in the UK.
Richard3120 (
talk)
14:49, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you, Richard3120 ( talk). Being neither French or a speaker of the language, I was unfamiliar with it. It's nice to know some English language wikipedia editors are. ShelbyMarion ( talk) 16:47, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
- @
ShelbyMarion: I don't think it's an exaggeration to say it's France's most famous music magazine ever, as well known and respected in France as, say, Rolling Stone in the US or NME in the UK.
Richard3120 (
talk)
14:49, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
- Keep as per the coverage identified above that shows significant coverage in multiple reliable sources showing the band passes criteria 1 of
WP:NMUSIC (only one criteria needed) as well as passing
WP:GNG, thanks
Atlantic306 (
talk)
22:41, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
- @
Atlantic306: Passes
WP:GNG? How so? GNG says
If a topic has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject, it is presumed to be suitable for a stand-alone article or list.
Are you sure? Masum Reza 📞 03:40, 23 June 2019 (UTC)
- @
Atlantic306: Passes
WP:GNG? How so? GNG says
- Yes with Allmusic, bio and reviews in Allmusic, lengthy article in French music magazine detailed above, that is independent and significant so
WP:GNG is passed
Atlantic306 (
talk)
19:18, 23 June 2019 (UTC)
- The English article has zero reference. Please consider adding those sources here in the English article to establish notability. Masum Reza 📞 19:27, 23 June 2019 (UTC)
-
WP:Do it yourself
Atlantic306 (
talk)
22:00, 23 June 2019 (UTC)
- I would love to. But unfortunately I don't know French.
Masum Reza
📞
22:06, 23 June 2019 (UTC)
- Have added the refs to the article so it just needs expanding now using those sources, thanks
Atlantic306 (
talk)
22:22, 23 June 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks for doing that. I am positive that more reliable sources exist. Masum Reza 📞 06:31, 26 June 2019 (UTC)
- Have added the refs to the article so it just needs expanding now using those sources, thanks
Atlantic306 (
talk)
22:22, 23 June 2019 (UTC)
- I would love to. But unfortunately I don't know French.
Masum Reza
📞
22:06, 23 June 2019 (UTC)
- Yes with Allmusic, bio and reviews in Allmusic, lengthy article in French music magazine detailed above, that is independent and significant so
WP:GNG is passed
Atlantic306 (
talk)
19:18, 23 June 2019 (UTC)
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