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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 23:13, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
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Fails WP:NBASIC and WP:NMUSIC. Article only references self-published sources. WP:BEFORE reveals one sentence on the subject in Richmond Magazine and a few passing mentions. SailingInABathTub ~~🛁~~ 19:08, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People, Bands and musicians, Florida, and New York. Skynxnex ( talk) 19:26, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
- Comment. This is a marginal case. In addition to the Richmond Magazine article, noted above, I found a few potential sources, including American Songwriter, AllMusic, and Best Classic Bands. Arguably the sources are reliable, but an argument can also be made that they are not. Bearian ( talk) 19:54, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 22:59, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
- Leaning Delete. The sources posted by Bearian are quintessential passing mentions. I searched newspapers.com, EBSCO, and ProQuest. The only source with more than a passing mention was [1], which at least has some biographical detail about DiTroia, but its primary subject is the band. Not enough to push it over the line for me, but maybe someone else can find more. Jfire ( talk) 02:36, 11 January 2024 (UTC)
- Delete fails GNG and NBIO. Sources found are all name mentions, listings, nothing that meets WP:IS WP:RS with WP:SIGCOV addressing the subject directly and indepth. Bearian found the best sources in their BEFORE, they don't have SIGCOV:
- [2], "He also started singing with a doo-wop group made up of Marty Monaco, Tony Giannatasio, Sal DiTroia, and Victor Eusepi."
- [3], a list of credits, no details, nothing meeting direct and indepth SIGCOV about the subject.
- [4], name listed in credits, "Others include Sal DiTroia on rhythm guitar, Diamond himself on acoustic guitar, Russ Savakus on bass, George Butcher on piano, Stan Free on Vox Continental organ..."
- If I missed something, post the best WP:THREE IS RS with SIGCOV and ping me.
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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 23:13, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
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- Sal DiTroia ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:NBASIC and WP:NMUSIC. Article only references self-published sources. WP:BEFORE reveals one sentence on the subject in Richmond Magazine and a few passing mentions. SailingInABathTub ~~🛁~~ 19:08, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People, Bands and musicians, Florida, and New York. Skynxnex ( talk) 19:26, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
- Comment. This is a marginal case. In addition to the Richmond Magazine article, noted above, I found a few potential sources, including American Songwriter, AllMusic, and Best Classic Bands. Arguably the sources are reliable, but an argument can also be made that they are not. Bearian ( talk) 19:54, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 22:59, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
- Leaning Delete. The sources posted by Bearian are quintessential passing mentions. I searched newspapers.com, EBSCO, and ProQuest. The only source with more than a passing mention was [1], which at least has some biographical detail about DiTroia, but its primary subject is the band. Not enough to push it over the line for me, but maybe someone else can find more. Jfire ( talk) 02:36, 11 January 2024 (UTC)
- Delete fails GNG and NBIO. Sources found are all name mentions, listings, nothing that meets WP:IS WP:RS with WP:SIGCOV addressing the subject directly and indepth. Bearian found the best sources in their BEFORE, they don't have SIGCOV:
- [2], "He also started singing with a doo-wop group made up of Marty Monaco, Tony Giannatasio, Sal DiTroia, and Victor Eusepi."
- [3], a list of credits, no details, nothing meeting direct and indepth SIGCOV about the subject.
- [4], name listed in credits, "Others include Sal DiTroia on rhythm guitar, Diamond himself on acoustic guitar, Russ Savakus on bass, George Butcher on piano, Stan Free on Vox Continental organ..."
- If I missed something, post the best WP:THREE IS RS with SIGCOV and ping me.
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.