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The result was no consensus. I can't really justify closing as "keep" as only Mast3r has really given a confident decision to do so; however the net effect is the same, so it's not a major issue. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 16:06, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
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Sources do not assert notability: primary or not relating to her personally. Likely best to revert back to redirect. Dirk Beetstra T C 19:50, 5 August 2018 (UTC)
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Hi, besides her popular involvement in Nine Muses, Sera has recently renewed activites under a new label. I will provide a list of relevant recent solo activites and a few supporting secondary published sources each:
- Sunshower concert held in June 2018 – TenAsia News1 Yonhap News kpopping and more
- Stay Real album release in March – allkpop 1 allkpop 2 and more
- Founding OCTO – News1 Naver kpopviral and more
- Spring Rain concert in March – topstarnews and others
- Older: Serenade concert, album etc. – allkpop wikitree TenAsia and others
- Other recent articles/interviews:
- February festival appearance alongside Bewhy – Christian Today
- interview for sellev. about new activites and direction – interview link, articles spawned from it: Hankyoreh and more
- interview for DioDeo – interview link
- article on unpublished song release – kpopstarz
- articles on similarities with her brother, owning an iguana and more trivia articles
- etc.
- More activities are soon to come, with another expected release this fall.
I could provide more, that's just what to came to mind at this moment. And of course, there are heaps of personal articles from her involvement in Nine Muses, but those are better searched under "nine muses sera".
The article in its current form is outdated, incomplete and under construction, so it shouldn't be used to judge. But I'm glad we can entertain the notability question now, before more effort is expended on it. Mast3r ( talk) 21:21, 5 August 2018 (UTC)
@ Beetstra: Hi, sorry for bothering. But I don't know if you're watching this page and I wanted to ask what you think :) I want to start reworking the article so I'm looking for opinions. Thank you. Mast3r ( talk) 12:57, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
- Just rework the article and get it to standard. -- Dirk Beetstra T C 17:20, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
Relisting comment: Without use of bolded !votes, my reading of this is a fairly balanced short discussion at the moment, so I feel a relist is warranted
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- Comment Allkpop and Kpopstarz are unreliable, WP:KO/RS#UR. – Finnusertop ( talk ⋅ contribs) 08:17, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
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Relisting comment: Discuss the sources provided by Mast3r.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, wumbolo ^^^ 10:51, 27 August 2018 (UTC)
- Redirect: South Korean singer who fails WP:MUSICBIO and WP:WOMEN. Likely best to revert back to redirect to Draft:Ryu Sera. AaronWikia ( talk) 04:25, 1 September 2018 (UTC)
- Keep: Satisfies the WP:MUSICBIO criterion 1, per sources covered in WP:KO/RS. Mast3r ( talk) 13:12, 1 September 2018 (UTC)
- tentative inclination to Keep: There appear to be a number of sources, but it is hard for me to tell if the Korean sources are independent, reliable secondary sources. If someone wants to assert that the sources are not WP:RS and why they are not WP:RS, I will reconsider. -- David Tornheim ( talk) 07:42, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
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The result was no consensus. I can't really justify closing as "keep" as only Mast3r has really given a confident decision to do so; however the net effect is the same, so it's not a major issue. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 16:06, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
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Sources do not assert notability: primary or not relating to her personally. Likely best to revert back to redirect. Dirk Beetstra T C 19:50, 5 August 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Gameinfirmary ( talk) 19:53, 5 August 2018 (UTC)
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Hi, besides her popular involvement in Nine Muses, Sera has recently renewed activites under a new label. I will provide a list of relevant recent solo activites and a few supporting secondary published sources each:
- Sunshower concert held in June 2018 – TenAsia News1 Yonhap News kpopping and more
- Stay Real album release in March – allkpop 1 allkpop 2 and more
- Founding OCTO – News1 Naver kpopviral and more
- Spring Rain concert in March – topstarnews and others
- Older: Serenade concert, album etc. – allkpop wikitree TenAsia and others
- Other recent articles/interviews:
- February festival appearance alongside Bewhy – Christian Today
- interview for sellev. about new activites and direction – interview link, articles spawned from it: Hankyoreh and more
- interview for DioDeo – interview link
- article on unpublished song release – kpopstarz
- articles on similarities with her brother, owning an iguana and more trivia articles
- etc.
- More activities are soon to come, with another expected release this fall.
I could provide more, that's just what to came to mind at this moment. And of course, there are heaps of personal articles from her involvement in Nine Muses, but those are better searched under "nine muses sera".
The article in its current form is outdated, incomplete and under construction, so it shouldn't be used to judge. But I'm glad we can entertain the notability question now, before more effort is expended on it. Mast3r ( talk) 21:21, 5 August 2018 (UTC)
@ Beetstra: Hi, sorry for bothering. But I don't know if you're watching this page and I wanted to ask what you think :) I want to start reworking the article so I'm looking for opinions. Thank you. Mast3r ( talk) 12:57, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
- Just rework the article and get it to standard. -- Dirk Beetstra T C 17:20, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
Relisting comment: Without use of bolded !votes, my reading of this is a fairly balanced short discussion at the moment, so I feel a relist is warranted
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Nosebagbear ( talk) 11:19, 12 August 2018 (UTC)
- Comment Allkpop and Kpopstarz are unreliable, WP:KO/RS#UR. – Finnusertop ( talk ⋅ contribs) 08:17, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Vanamonde ( talk) 07:09, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
Relisting comment: Discuss the sources provided by Mast3r.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, wumbolo ^^^ 10:51, 27 August 2018 (UTC)
- Redirect: South Korean singer who fails WP:MUSICBIO and WP:WOMEN. Likely best to revert back to redirect to Draft:Ryu Sera. AaronWikia ( talk) 04:25, 1 September 2018 (UTC)
- Keep: Satisfies the WP:MUSICBIO criterion 1, per sources covered in WP:KO/RS. Mast3r ( talk) 13:12, 1 September 2018 (UTC)
- tentative inclination to Keep: There appear to be a number of sources, but it is hard for me to tell if the Korean sources are independent, reliable secondary sources. If someone wants to assert that the sources are not WP:RS and why they are not WP:RS, I will reconsider. -- David Tornheim ( talk) 07:42, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
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