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The result was delete. I'd say there is a very weak consensus to keep, or likely a stronger argument that this results in no consensus. However, because its a biography of a living person, I'm going to err on the side of delete until additional sources are available to support an article on a living person. v/r - T P 13:55, 29 January 2020 (UTC) reply

Reggie Arnold

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Fails WP:GNG and WP:NGRIDIRON, having never played professionally. Cannot find significant coverage, only routine game recaps and minor mentions. Eagles  24/7  (C) 19:14, 2 January 2020 (UTC) reply

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  • Delete a non-notable college runningback. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 19:44, 2 January 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Delete fails WP:GNG and WP:NGRIDIRON. Best, GPL93 ( talk) 01:01, 4 January 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Delete Does not appear to have played pro football, fails GNG. ~ EDDY ( talk/ contribs)~ 14:55, 4 January 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Keep. Played four years at Division I FBS level, and ranks as one of the top players in Arkansas State history (second in school history with 3,933 rushing yards - see here). He gained over 1,000 yards for three consecutive seasons (see here), was a first-team pick on the FWAA's 2006 Freshman All-America team ( here), and a Doak Walker Award candidate in 2007, 2008 and 2009. Finding a lot of significant coverage, including (1) "Record within reach for A-State’s Arnold", Jonesboro Sun, 12/3/09 (1,093 words), (2) "Arnold eager to play his type of game again", Jonesboro Sun, 11/5/09 (869 words), (3) "ASU's Arnold Ready and Waiting", Jonesboro Sun, 10/12/09 (926 words), (4) "Arnold hopes to follow father’s example", Jonesboro Sun, 10/1/09 (898 words), (5) "Arnold makes Doak Walker Award list", Jonesboro Sun, 8/5/09, (6) "ASU's Arnold close to career milestone", Jonesboro Sun, 11/20/08, (7) "Arnold added to Doak Walker Award list", Jonesboro Sun, 8/29/08; (8) "Arnold wants more spring in step", Arkansas Democrat-Gazette, 8/13/08 (952 words), (9) "Arnold mainstay in ASU backfield", Jonesboro Sun, 8/5/08 (760 words); (10) "Arnold looking to 'roll up' more big numbers in 07", Paragould Daily Press, 8/13/07 (576 words); (11) "Full speed ahead for ASU's Arnold", Arkansas Democrat-Gazette, 8/10/07 (632 words); (12) "A-State's Arnold ready to run", Jonesboro Sun, 7/23/07 (771 words); (13) "ASU's Arnold watching, healing", Jonesboro Sun, 4/3/07; (14) "Arnold getting big push, Competition keeps ASU back on toes", Arkansas Democrat-Gazette (852 words), 9/14/07, (15) Reggie Arnold Named SBC's Freshman Of The Year", KAIT, 12/6/06; (16) "Arnold surpasses 1,000-yard mark", Jonesboro Sun, 11/20/06; and (17) "Blue-collar effort has Arnold leading SBC", Arkansas Democrat-Gazette, 9/30/06 (945 words). Cbl62 ( talk) 23:00, 4 January 2020 (UTC) reply
  • This season there were about 80 candidates for the Doak Walker Award ( [1]), so I don't think that is a notable achievement. Eagles  24/7  (C) 23:06, 4 January 2020 (UTC) reply
  • I completely agree that being a Doak Walker candidate is not in itself enough to satisfy WP:NCOLLATH. For me, it's the combination of accomplishments (3x 1,000 yard seasons, 2nd all-time in school history, 1st-team freshman All-American, 3x Doak Walker candidate) and abundant coverage in multiple Arkansas media outlets that tips me to finding him notable. Cbl62 ( talk) 00:24, 5 January 2020 (UTC) reply
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  • Comment all of the source coverage above is from the state of Arkansas, which means he fails WP:NCOLLATH, and I'm extremely skeptical of calling amateur players notable who only received local coverage from their hometown, the region surrounding where they played in college, or routine coverage from the team they were drafted from, as local coverage does not necessarily imply notability. In this instance, though, it seems as if he was one of the best players ever to play at this particular program. My difficulty here is that I think best possible scenario is this gets kept and turned into an article which clearly demonstrates his notability, while the worst possible scenario is if this gets kept and it stays as this terrible stub, which barely satisfies the "sourced BLP requirement." I understand notability is a property of the subject and not the article, and I would say Jones is marginally notable, so a very weak keep from me, but please, someone develop this article a little bit and give this kid the credit he deserves. SportingFlyer T· C 01:48, 12 January 2020 (UTC) reply
  • keep coverage shows a pass of WP:GNG. I agree it needs more development, but that's an editing issue and not a deletion issue.-- Paul McDonald ( talk) 13:18, 15 January 2020 (UTC) reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. I'd say there is a very weak consensus to keep, or likely a stronger argument that this results in no consensus. However, because its a biography of a living person, I'm going to err on the side of delete until additional sources are available to support an article on a living person. v/r - T P 13:55, 29 January 2020 (UTC) reply

Reggie Arnold

Reggie Arnold (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
(Find sources:  Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs· FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Fails WP:GNG and WP:NGRIDIRON, having never played professionally. Cannot find significant coverage, only routine game recaps and minor mentions. Eagles  24/7  (C) 19:14, 2 January 2020 (UTC) reply

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. Eagles  24/7  (C) 19:14, 2 January 2020 (UTC) reply
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of American football-related deletion discussions. Eagles  24/7  (C) 19:14, 2 January 2020 (UTC) reply
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Arkansas-related deletion discussions. Eagles  24/7  (C) 19:14, 2 January 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Delete a non-notable college runningback. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 19:44, 2 January 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Delete fails WP:GNG and WP:NGRIDIRON. Best, GPL93 ( talk) 01:01, 4 January 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Delete Does not appear to have played pro football, fails GNG. ~ EDDY ( talk/ contribs)~ 14:55, 4 January 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Keep. Played four years at Division I FBS level, and ranks as one of the top players in Arkansas State history (second in school history with 3,933 rushing yards - see here). He gained over 1,000 yards for three consecutive seasons (see here), was a first-team pick on the FWAA's 2006 Freshman All-America team ( here), and a Doak Walker Award candidate in 2007, 2008 and 2009. Finding a lot of significant coverage, including (1) "Record within reach for A-State’s Arnold", Jonesboro Sun, 12/3/09 (1,093 words), (2) "Arnold eager to play his type of game again", Jonesboro Sun, 11/5/09 (869 words), (3) "ASU's Arnold Ready and Waiting", Jonesboro Sun, 10/12/09 (926 words), (4) "Arnold hopes to follow father’s example", Jonesboro Sun, 10/1/09 (898 words), (5) "Arnold makes Doak Walker Award list", Jonesboro Sun, 8/5/09, (6) "ASU's Arnold close to career milestone", Jonesboro Sun, 11/20/08, (7) "Arnold added to Doak Walker Award list", Jonesboro Sun, 8/29/08; (8) "Arnold wants more spring in step", Arkansas Democrat-Gazette, 8/13/08 (952 words), (9) "Arnold mainstay in ASU backfield", Jonesboro Sun, 8/5/08 (760 words); (10) "Arnold looking to 'roll up' more big numbers in 07", Paragould Daily Press, 8/13/07 (576 words); (11) "Full speed ahead for ASU's Arnold", Arkansas Democrat-Gazette, 8/10/07 (632 words); (12) "A-State's Arnold ready to run", Jonesboro Sun, 7/23/07 (771 words); (13) "ASU's Arnold watching, healing", Jonesboro Sun, 4/3/07; (14) "Arnold getting big push, Competition keeps ASU back on toes", Arkansas Democrat-Gazette (852 words), 9/14/07, (15) Reggie Arnold Named SBC's Freshman Of The Year", KAIT, 12/6/06; (16) "Arnold surpasses 1,000-yard mark", Jonesboro Sun, 11/20/06; and (17) "Blue-collar effort has Arnold leading SBC", Arkansas Democrat-Gazette, 9/30/06 (945 words). Cbl62 ( talk) 23:00, 4 January 2020 (UTC) reply
  • This season there were about 80 candidates for the Doak Walker Award ( [1]), so I don't think that is a notable achievement. Eagles  24/7  (C) 23:06, 4 January 2020 (UTC) reply
  • I completely agree that being a Doak Walker candidate is not in itself enough to satisfy WP:NCOLLATH. For me, it's the combination of accomplishments (3x 1,000 yard seasons, 2nd all-time in school history, 1st-team freshman All-American, 3x Doak Walker candidate) and abundant coverage in multiple Arkansas media outlets that tips me to finding him notable. Cbl62 ( talk) 00:24, 5 January 2020 (UTC) reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 11:31, 10 January 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Comment all of the source coverage above is from the state of Arkansas, which means he fails WP:NCOLLATH, and I'm extremely skeptical of calling amateur players notable who only received local coverage from their hometown, the region surrounding where they played in college, or routine coverage from the team they were drafted from, as local coverage does not necessarily imply notability. In this instance, though, it seems as if he was one of the best players ever to play at this particular program. My difficulty here is that I think best possible scenario is this gets kept and turned into an article which clearly demonstrates his notability, while the worst possible scenario is if this gets kept and it stays as this terrible stub, which barely satisfies the "sourced BLP requirement." I understand notability is a property of the subject and not the article, and I would say Jones is marginally notable, so a very weak keep from me, but please, someone develop this article a little bit and give this kid the credit he deserves. SportingFlyer T· C 01:48, 12 January 2020 (UTC) reply
  • keep coverage shows a pass of WP:GNG. I agree it needs more development, but that's an editing issue and not a deletion issue.-- Paul McDonald ( talk) 13:18, 15 January 2020 (UTC) reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Tone 20:06, 19 January 2020 (UTC) reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

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