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The result was keep. Malinaccier ( talk) 14:03, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
Raba Khan
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Being in the list of a 30 people for a region doesn't mean we have to create an article for each of them. May be she is a celebrity but not notable to be in Wikipedia like the other youtubers. No independent notability other than being a youtuber. AlbeitPK ( talk) 06:02, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Being in the list of a 30 people for a region doesn't mean we have to create an article for each of them. No, we do not have articles for each of them. The nom seems to be focused on the subject rather than individual. Regardless what they're known for, if they receive enough notable coverage, they are notable. And this person most definitely passes GNG regardless of the causes. It's not limited to a one-off event (the Forbes list) but sustained coverage exist for this individual.
No independent notability other than being a YouTuber That's the most illogical rationale I've ever seen on an AFD nom. We have thousands of biographies on YouTubers. Since when, YouTubers aren't notable solely based on the fact that they are YouTubers? It all comes down to coverage, if they fulfill the notability criteria, they are notable. And even if taking this fallacy into consideration just for the sake of it, this person has received coverage for other ventures outside their digital content creation on YouTube. YouTube contributed to their initial fame but from then on she has received coverage for other activities such as vlogs on Facebook or media collaborations, UNICEF activities, writing, singing, modeling, etc. X ( talk) 21:01, 13 June 2024 (UTC) - @ AlbeitPK, I'm inviting you to do a complete source analysis. You clearly did not practice WP:BEFORE, which is not a surprise, you being an inexperienced user. As a friendly advice, I'd urge you to spend more time on article creation and expansion before hopping onto AFD. Familiarize yourself with the policies and when you get a good grip you may participate in these spaces.Albeit being largely primary, the Ice Today piece alone is a clear indication of notability. And independent in-depth coverage do exist. Sources are available in Bengali exist as well, all of which are not included in the article, but I'll be happy to list them if one asks. X ( talk) 21:07, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. Source analysis:
- This is essentially just a paragaph mentioning she posted a video.
- Daily Star 30-under-30 #1 has a good paragraph describing her
- A short interview with a little more significant commentary
- Daily Sun 30-under-30 article doesn't say much other than republishing the announcement
- An entire article on her, which is probably sourced from an interview, but the newspaper is the one making statements so I think it's valid.
- Another 4 good paragraphs in the Forbes list
- BBC Bengali mention in review of Facebook influencers, only a little but it is there
- More Daily Star coverage under being a 30-under-30 winner
- Article on her, though whether the Vanity Star is a reliable source I don't know
- The interview mentioned, which is very long but primary. Good for the article, but probably doesn't establish notability (but the other sources probably do)
- Short article
- Plus:
- So, while a lot of the coverage is just tiny 5-sentence mentions, she does seem to be notable (according to these things) in Bengali online media. The book and the popularity probably push her over "random youtuber", and I think the last two sources + the interview + the forbes list and associated sources all together meet the significant coverage criteria.
Mrfoogles (
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00:54, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for this. Yes, almost all the sources that discusses her starts with something like "Famous social media personality" or "Popular content creator", etc. She also has been the subject of at least 5 full length talk show interviews by the countries largest media Prothom Alo alone. They also dedicated entire episodes of shows on her lifestyle (one about "What's Raba Khan shopping this Eid"). And numerous national and international magazine features. Everything combined speaks for her notability. It appears the nominator is an inexperienced editor, hence they do not have a good grasp over Wiki notability guidelines. I won't say I'm always right, but this is the first WIR article (2nd overall) created by me that has been brought to AFD (I'm taking a Wiki break but had to respond here when I saw the mail, NGL, the nom rationale is ridiculous.) X ( talk) 14:52, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
Keep. Thank you for the source analysis Mrfoogles. I am content that on the basis of those sources the subject meets WP:N. Spinifex&Sand ( talk) 02:55, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: Per source analysis above. PARAKANYAA ( talk) 05:11, 15 June 2024 (UTC)
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The result was keep. Malinaccier ( talk) 14:03, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
Raba Khan
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Being in the list of a 30 people for a region doesn't mean we have to create an article for each of them. May be she is a celebrity but not notable to be in Wikipedia like the other youtubers. No independent notability other than being a youtuber. AlbeitPK ( talk) 06:02, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Being in the list of a 30 people for a region doesn't mean we have to create an article for each of them. No, we do not have articles for each of them. The nom seems to be focused on the subject rather than individual. Regardless what they're known for, if they receive enough notable coverage, they are notable. And this person most definitely passes GNG regardless of the causes. It's not limited to a one-off event (the Forbes list) but sustained coverage exist for this individual.
No independent notability other than being a YouTuber That's the most illogical rationale I've ever seen on an AFD nom. We have thousands of biographies on YouTubers. Since when, YouTubers aren't notable solely based on the fact that they are YouTubers? It all comes down to coverage, if they fulfill the notability criteria, they are notable. And even if taking this fallacy into consideration just for the sake of it, this person has received coverage for other ventures outside their digital content creation on YouTube. YouTube contributed to their initial fame but from then on she has received coverage for other activities such as vlogs on Facebook or media collaborations, UNICEF activities, writing, singing, modeling, etc. X ( talk) 21:01, 13 June 2024 (UTC) - @ AlbeitPK, I'm inviting you to do a complete source analysis. You clearly did not practice WP:BEFORE, which is not a surprise, you being an inexperienced user. As a friendly advice, I'd urge you to spend more time on article creation and expansion before hopping onto AFD. Familiarize yourself with the policies and when you get a good grip you may participate in these spaces.Albeit being largely primary, the Ice Today piece alone is a clear indication of notability. And independent in-depth coverage do exist. Sources are available in Bengali exist as well, all of which are not included in the article, but I'll be happy to list them if one asks. X ( talk) 21:07, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. Source analysis:
- This is essentially just a paragaph mentioning she posted a video.
- Daily Star 30-under-30 #1 has a good paragraph describing her
- A short interview with a little more significant commentary
- Daily Sun 30-under-30 article doesn't say much other than republishing the announcement
- An entire article on her, which is probably sourced from an interview, but the newspaper is the one making statements so I think it's valid.
- Another 4 good paragraphs in the Forbes list
- BBC Bengali mention in review of Facebook influencers, only a little but it is there
- More Daily Star coverage under being a 30-under-30 winner
- Article on her, though whether the Vanity Star is a reliable source I don't know
- The interview mentioned, which is very long but primary. Good for the article, but probably doesn't establish notability (but the other sources probably do)
- Short article
- Plus:
- So, while a lot of the coverage is just tiny 5-sentence mentions, she does seem to be notable (according to these things) in Bengali online media. The book and the popularity probably push her over "random youtuber", and I think the last two sources + the interview + the forbes list and associated sources all together meet the significant coverage criteria.
Mrfoogles (
talk)
00:54, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for this. Yes, almost all the sources that discusses her starts with something like "Famous social media personality" or "Popular content creator", etc. She also has been the subject of at least 5 full length talk show interviews by the countries largest media Prothom Alo alone. They also dedicated entire episodes of shows on her lifestyle (one about "What's Raba Khan shopping this Eid"). And numerous national and international magazine features. Everything combined speaks for her notability. It appears the nominator is an inexperienced editor, hence they do not have a good grasp over Wiki notability guidelines. I won't say I'm always right, but this is the first WIR article (2nd overall) created by me that has been brought to AFD (I'm taking a Wiki break but had to respond here when I saw the mail, NGL, the nom rationale is ridiculous.) X ( talk) 14:52, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
Keep. Thank you for the source analysis Mrfoogles. I am content that on the basis of those sources the subject meets WP:N. Spinifex&Sand ( talk) 02:55, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: Per source analysis above. PARAKANYAA ( talk) 05:11, 15 June 2024 (UTC)
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