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The result was keep. Cunard's extensive list of citations clearly puts to rest any idea that this is insufficiently sourced. -- RoySmith (talk) 03:57, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
Popmoney
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Nominated for procedural deletion with the following reason: "The coverage (references, external links, etc.) does not seem sufficient to justify this article passing Wikipedia:General notability guideline and the more detailed Wikipedia:Notability (companies) requirement." However, article does contain some reliable sources which suggest it is/was a challenger to Paypal. Bringing to AfD for a wider opinion. -- Euryalus ( talk) 12:48, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
- Delete (prod nominator). This statement is sourced to a single ref - an article in American Banker, which briefly (in four paragraphs) discusses the competition to PayPal and mentions Popmoney as one of the emerging competitors. American Banker seems to me like a niche source, if reliable - but its coverage of Popmoney seems rather short, and I don't think it is sufficient to make this article a keep. Popmoney may be emerging as a competitor to Paypal, but based on the presented sources, it hasn't emerged yet - and thus hasn't gained required notability. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:28, 23 October 2014 (UTC)
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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
- Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NorthAmerica 1000 02:28, 30 October 2014 (UTC)
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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
- Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Spirit of Eagle ( talk) 06:27, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
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Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent
reliable sources.
- Roberts, Ed (2012-03-01). "Fiserv Combining Popmoney and ZashPay P-to-P Services". American Banker. Archived from the original on 2014-11-07. Retrieved 2014-11-06.
- Wolfe, Daniel (2011-06-21). "Ally Offers CashEdge's Popmoney". American Banker. Retrieved 2014-11-06.
- Rapport, Marc (2012-02-29). "Fiserv Melds P2P Services ZashPay, Popmoney". Credit Union Times. Archived from the original on 2014-11-07. Retrieved 2014-11-06.
- Marte, Jonnelle (2009-06-23).
"Dad, Can You Text Me $200?".
The Wall Street Journal. Archived from
the original on 2014-11-07. Retrieved 2014-11-06.
Jonnelle Marte wrote:
The article provides several more paragraphs of coverage of Popmoney, noting that "But POPmoney’s key feature is that it will allow users to send money directly from one bank account to another."A new service by CashEdge Inc., which provides online banking services for financial institutions, would let users send money to friends and family through a text message or email — further cutting down on our need to stop at ATMs or write checks when we owe people money.
- Pilon, Mary (2009-12-17).
"Mobile-Payment Services Grow".
The Wall Street Journal. Archived from
the original on 2014-11-07. Retrieved 2014-11-06.
Mary Pilon wrote:
This week, Popmoney, a service from CashEdge, went live. It’s currently available at only two financial institutions, but will expand to seven in coming months, Neil Platt, Popmoney’s senior vice president, said. (CashEdge already has various institutions as clients elsewhere, including Bank of America and Citibank.)
Popmoney lets users send money to recipients via text message or email. The recipient receives a code that he can use to receive the cash, even if he doesn’t have a Popmoney account. It’s the first service allowing bank customers to send money with nothing more than a friend’s email address or cellphone number, Mr. Platt said. Although many online banks offer free transfers and PayPal functions, Popmoney will bear a bank’s branding.
“We think this will be part of every checking account in a couple of years,” he said.
Fees for using the service are determined by the bank. First Hawaiian Bank, one of the first to offer Popmoney, charges $1 per transaction. Some banks might adopt tiered pricing approaches, waiving fees for select customers or on a promotional basis, Mr. Platt said.
- Marte, Jonnelle (2010-07-11).
"Use Phone, PC to Pay Others".
The Wall Street Journal. Retrieved 2014-11-06.
Jonnelle Marte wrote:
About 170 banks offer Popmoney, a service that lets you transfer money from your savings or checking account online to another person's account at any participating bank. You just need the payment amount and the person's email address and phone number. If your bank doesn't offer the service, you can't send money, but you can receive it by entering your account information at Popmoney.com.
-
"Visa lets people use plastic to pay one another".
The Washington Post.
Associated Press. 2011-03-16. Archived from
the original on 2014-11-07. Retrieved 2014-11-06.
the Associated Press wrote:
About 200 banks, including several of the nation's largest, already use CashEdge's PopMoney service.
- Salmon, Felix (2010-12-01). "Transferring Money Gets Easier". Seeking Alpha. Archived from the original on 2014-11-07. Retrieved 2014-11-06.
- Urken, Ross Kenneth (2012-11-05).
"Will Peer-To-Peer Payments Rescue the Mobile Wallet from Fad Status?". Daily Finance. Archived from
the original on 2014-11-07. Retrieved 2014-11-06.
Ross Kenneth Urken wrote:
Perhaps you've seen the commercials for Popmoney, a service that allows a customer to send money using the recipient's phone number or email address. Currently available through 1,700 financial institutions, as well as to any individual user who downloads its app, it has a lot of people jazzed by their ability to pay the babysitter or settle their portion of the dinner check with a tap on their smartphone.
Keep If 175 American banks are offering this, including some
large ones, it suggests small-n "notable". Anyway, here's another report, NPOV an' all:
- 10. Yardena Arar & Tony Bradley (2010-10-11)
"PayPal Alternatives That Let You Shop Around", PCWorld
: Noyster (talk), 14:20, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
- 10. Yardena Arar & Tony Bradley (2010-10-11)
"PayPal Alternatives That Let You Shop Around", PCWorld
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep. Cunard's extensive list of citations clearly puts to rest any idea that this is insufficiently sourced. -- RoySmith (talk) 03:57, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
Popmoney
- Popmoney ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
- (Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)
Nominated for procedural deletion with the following reason: "The coverage (references, external links, etc.) does not seem sufficient to justify this article passing Wikipedia:General notability guideline and the more detailed Wikipedia:Notability (companies) requirement." However, article does contain some reliable sources which suggest it is/was a challenger to Paypal. Bringing to AfD for a wider opinion. -- Euryalus ( talk) 12:48, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
- Delete (prod nominator). This statement is sourced to a single ref - an article in American Banker, which briefly (in four paragraphs) discusses the competition to PayPal and mentions Popmoney as one of the emerging competitors. American Banker seems to me like a niche source, if reliable - but its coverage of Popmoney seems rather short, and I don't think it is sufficient to make this article a keep. Popmoney may be emerging as a competitor to Paypal, but based on the presented sources, it hasn't emerged yet - and thus hasn't gained required notability. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:28, 23 October 2014 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of New York-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 18:55, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Business-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 18:55, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Websites-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 18:55, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
-
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
- Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NorthAmerica 1000 02:28, 30 October 2014 (UTC)
-
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
- Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Spirit of Eagle ( talk) 06:27, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
-
Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent
reliable sources.
- Roberts, Ed (2012-03-01). "Fiserv Combining Popmoney and ZashPay P-to-P Services". American Banker. Archived from the original on 2014-11-07. Retrieved 2014-11-06.
- Wolfe, Daniel (2011-06-21). "Ally Offers CashEdge's Popmoney". American Banker. Retrieved 2014-11-06.
- Rapport, Marc (2012-02-29). "Fiserv Melds P2P Services ZashPay, Popmoney". Credit Union Times. Archived from the original on 2014-11-07. Retrieved 2014-11-06.
- Marte, Jonnelle (2009-06-23).
"Dad, Can You Text Me $200?".
The Wall Street Journal. Archived from
the original on 2014-11-07. Retrieved 2014-11-06.
Jonnelle Marte wrote:
The article provides several more paragraphs of coverage of Popmoney, noting that "But POPmoney’s key feature is that it will allow users to send money directly from one bank account to another."A new service by CashEdge Inc., which provides online banking services for financial institutions, would let users send money to friends and family through a text message or email — further cutting down on our need to stop at ATMs or write checks when we owe people money.
- Pilon, Mary (2009-12-17).
"Mobile-Payment Services Grow".
The Wall Street Journal. Archived from
the original on 2014-11-07. Retrieved 2014-11-06.
Mary Pilon wrote:
This week, Popmoney, a service from CashEdge, went live. It’s currently available at only two financial institutions, but will expand to seven in coming months, Neil Platt, Popmoney’s senior vice president, said. (CashEdge already has various institutions as clients elsewhere, including Bank of America and Citibank.)
Popmoney lets users send money to recipients via text message or email. The recipient receives a code that he can use to receive the cash, even if he doesn’t have a Popmoney account. It’s the first service allowing bank customers to send money with nothing more than a friend’s email address or cellphone number, Mr. Platt said. Although many online banks offer free transfers and PayPal functions, Popmoney will bear a bank’s branding.
“We think this will be part of every checking account in a couple of years,” he said.
Fees for using the service are determined by the bank. First Hawaiian Bank, one of the first to offer Popmoney, charges $1 per transaction. Some banks might adopt tiered pricing approaches, waiving fees for select customers or on a promotional basis, Mr. Platt said.
- Marte, Jonnelle (2010-07-11).
"Use Phone, PC to Pay Others".
The Wall Street Journal. Retrieved 2014-11-06.
Jonnelle Marte wrote:
About 170 banks offer Popmoney, a service that lets you transfer money from your savings or checking account online to another person's account at any participating bank. You just need the payment amount and the person's email address and phone number. If your bank doesn't offer the service, you can't send money, but you can receive it by entering your account information at Popmoney.com.
-
"Visa lets people use plastic to pay one another".
The Washington Post.
Associated Press. 2011-03-16. Archived from
the original on 2014-11-07. Retrieved 2014-11-06.
the Associated Press wrote:
About 200 banks, including several of the nation's largest, already use CashEdge's PopMoney service.
- Salmon, Felix (2010-12-01). "Transferring Money Gets Easier". Seeking Alpha. Archived from the original on 2014-11-07. Retrieved 2014-11-06.
- Urken, Ross Kenneth (2012-11-05).
"Will Peer-To-Peer Payments Rescue the Mobile Wallet from Fad Status?". Daily Finance. Archived from
the original on 2014-11-07. Retrieved 2014-11-06.
Ross Kenneth Urken wrote:
Perhaps you've seen the commercials for Popmoney, a service that allows a customer to send money using the recipient's phone number or email address. Currently available through 1,700 financial institutions, as well as to any individual user who downloads its app, it has a lot of people jazzed by their ability to pay the babysitter or settle their portion of the dinner check with a tap on their smartphone.
Keep If 175 American banks are offering this, including some
large ones, it suggests small-n "notable". Anyway, here's another report, NPOV an' all:
- 10. Yardena Arar & Tony Bradley (2010-10-11)
"PayPal Alternatives That Let You Shop Around", PCWorld
: Noyster (talk), 14:20, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
- 10. Yardena Arar & Tony Bradley (2010-10-11)
"PayPal Alternatives That Let You Shop Around", PCWorld
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.